What should be the requirements to close a thread (please read carefully)
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This idea came in response to the complaint many people have about useless/stupid threads and polls. They seem to have become a big problem recently. This idea was first suggested by myself in a a discussion about a 'stupid section' of the forum which I think was generally thought to be a bad idea.
Posted by awood88: My suggestion is that we give BRM members a chance to close threads. Here me out. Admin cannot be around all the time and cannot always close threads simply because they are stupid incase he does not share public opinion. So I suggest admin adds a close button to each thread. When enough people click on it, the thread is closed so no idiots can bring it back up. The people who want the thread closed appear at the bottom so they can show their view without posting and sending said stupid thread back to the top.
I'm suggesting this to be used for threads like the 'ginger day walker' one and the favourite suit one. With threads like that there is an immediate dislike but all it takes is some idiot to post a week after the thread has gone 'I like clubs' and the post is back in our eyeline and more idiots jump on it. Clearly these people are a minority who fail to understand they don't get any points for posting four words in an otherwise dead thread.
edit: this button could also be used when a question has been answered to prevent more people from unnecessarily answering it again.
Here is admins response
Posted by Administrator: awood88 - really great ideas there!! That "close thread"-button could be an option, just need to figure out how many "votes to close" is necessary before it actually closes and what the requirements are to use it, like we don't want a bunch of 0-posters to click it just for the fun of it. But if require 100+ forum posts to be order to vote for closing of a thread, could be an option?
I have decided to create a poll to discover what the general opinion is but of course ultimately the decision will be admins. Still I think it would be good for admin to get a view of what BRM members think. I only had 10 options so I tried my best to make a round poll.
I don't know how many members would be needed to close a thread so I'll try and keep it general for now. Please vote for the closest option to your view. I also thought that maybe a thread should only be closed after 24 hours to allow the thread a chance. Maybe some people will find it useful when others find it stupid. Or maybe the close thread button would only show after a certain number of posts. This of course puts a lot of responsibility on BRM members not to close any thread they disagree with.
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Posted by awood88: I also thought that maybe a thread should only be closed after 24 hours to allow the thread a chance. Maybe some people will find it useful when others find it stupid.
Agree, some stupid threads evolve in a positive way; if not and it is closed after 24 hours it at least doesn't pop up to the top anymore after another useless post.
Posted by ih8usukouts: 1) I think you should have X amount of posts before you can be able to create a poll. 2) have some sort of "abuse clause" so after so many bad polls you can't create any for a period of time. (admin can determin if the polls are worth taking away the poll usage due to bad polls)
As for the stupid polls, this might work in the long run
Edited by Joe_Average (10 January 2010 @ 14:06 GMT)
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All members should have the right to decide wether the poll is stupid and should be closed or not. First, how would be defined a regular member? I use to come here and right some comments, but sometimes it can happen that i pass one or two weeks without passin here. Would i left be considered a regular member because of that? Second: Some members can be used to freak polls and vote non sense, but everyone should have the right to give an opinion. We are actually more than 180.000 members, there's got to have some control.
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Posted by awood88:
Any suggestions welcome.
it's a bit off a scary poll , will you decide who is a regular member and do we really need to close a thread or a poll because some people don't like the subject ? in my opinion we are going to far with critisizing each other and we are doing to much efforts to make this site the perfect site . the good thing about this site is that all kind of people come and go here and the difference off subjects keep this site alive , maybe we did have lately some (stupid polls) but this will disapear in time and come back again in time . you want to change this , go ahaed but i am not supporting this .
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i agree with awood88 on most of his idea. As to what makes a regular memeber a member, well you have to think Fakiry that although we are 180k strong, most do not post on here and just hang outfor the NDB/DB and freerolls etc. IMO there are probably about maybe 500 who would be considered reg posters,( that may be a little high), and out of that some are just posting silliness and voting in poll's. I think that you should have at least 500 posts to be able to vote closed and 24 hours is resonable. I hope that in what I said that the reg posters have enough "brains" to not vote to close a thread just becasue it is not poker related or a little out of the box, but more simply use your knoggin and think before you hit that button.
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Posted by Fakiry: All members should have the right to decide wether the poll is stupid and should be closed or not. First, how would be defined a regular member? I use to come here and right some comments, but sometimes it can happen that i pass one or two weeks without passin here. Would i left be considered a regular member because of that? Second: Some members can be used to freak polls and vote non sense, but everyone should have the right to give an opinion. We are actually more than 180.000 members, there's got to have some control.
The regular members only part was suggested by admin. He suggested members with 100+ votes would count but maybe it could be decided at a later time. I agree that there are lots of members here who should all have a voice in the forum but I'm suggesting this button to get rid of a problem that isn't just different threads.
I would hope that members don't just close threads they just don't like. New members often get angry when threads don't involve poker but of course off topic threads are welcome here. This is maybe why it should be regulars only cos they have a better idea of what threads do well here.
My idea is not intended for threads where only a minority of the forum want to write. It is not intended for off topic threads either. But threads that ask a question like 'Do you like poker?' are a burden on this forum. Threads which are obvious, threads which are just copies of other threads, threads which are begging - these should be closed.
Also sometimes a thread is created twice accidently. Someone doesn't realise and posts in the non used thread. Sometimes the op wants to close the thread. Sometimes the question is no longer relevant. Sometimes threads are good first time round but don't need to be brought back because one person has simply posted 'I agree'.
I personally think that all threads deserve a chance. If several people, even a minority want to post there, then thats fine. But too many posts are created which are useless. People don't seem to realise that when they create a new thread, other threads are pushed lower down the forum. Not a problem when there is one annoying thread but when the top page at any time is half made up of nonsense lots of good threads don't get their chance to be seen. This doesn't represent the forum in a good light to new members either. A good forum has a variety of threads imo and a variety of voices, maybe even some silly threads, but entire threads like 'hi!' and 'do you play poker' and 'good luck' and 'I feel lucky' are just a nuisance.
I think there no need to have many votes to close a thread. I think if 10 people already think that it's a nonsense thread, that is largely enough as an indication. Compare it with the polls here : it only needs 5 negative ratings to be deleted. And don't worry about people wanting to close a thread because they just don't agree with the content. That would be a minority who would vote to close just because of that reason. Not agreeing is ok, finding it nonsense is quite another thing.
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24h is a good idea imho whatever would be the option to close a poll (I prefeer regular posters one and only after 24H) I would like to see a way to choose the contrary ( something like thumbs up and down); otherwise the faster member(regulars or not it will depend on who is eligible to close it) will be the only ones to decide
I don't like this idea, I understand it and I respect all thinking it's a good idea. I think it's a kind of censorship or seems to me as it would be. Of course there are rules for posting here and everyone has to observe them ( we recently lost a regular ''spicy'' writer for this )