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i think it´s what do u feel.In the most times with only 6 BB u can not wait to become aces.A option is when u got maybe 67 in best the situation suited is very good when one or two players before go all in then in many times the players got high cards and u got a chance to win.With a weak ace of suited i think u lost the most of the times conec cards and suited is very good u´ve not make a mistake with jt suited when u will win more money to get a higher place u must gamble,When u only cash money u can wait with 6BB and look how much the players on other tables have when the blinds are high it´s only 90 players to cash money sometimes it´s works when u survive 2-3 rounds and u wait really for a strong hand thats the 2 options but it how i say a feeling situation
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Posted by johnnygan: I posted a thread almost the same before, but I came across another situation. I was playing in a $5 tournament the other day at PS. The cut line was 264 and I was 350. I was the short shack on the table with 6 blinds to go. Everybody else had about 15 plus. I went all-in with JT suited lost of course. So my question is when do u go all-in and with what kind of a hand. Do u wait for a hand? The only thing is if u wait for a good hand u might not have that much chips left and it would be just like somebody calling.
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all in only with strong and good hand must go not only the time decide must also if u have low chips and was on bb and have some k or q u must try too push all in
In this situation you couldn't wait anymore: 6 BB oblige you to. In general, until blinds are low, it's better to play in right positions top starting hands only trying to build a decent stack. In final phases I usually become more aggressive to boost short players and to go ITM.
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Posted by johnnygan: I posted a thread almost the same before, but I came across another situation. I was playing in a $5 tournament the other day at PS. The cut line was 264 and I was 350. I was the short shack on the table with 6 blinds to go. Everybody else had about 15 plus. I went all-in with JT suited lost of course. So my question is when do u go all-in and with what kind of a hand. Do u wait for a hand? The only thing is if u wait for a good hand u might not have that much chips left and it would be just like somebody calling.
dont think you really wanna play JT. So push them in late position would be okay to get some blinds or can at least play lifecardpoker. otherwise you need a hand...
normally i would push much earlier than 6 BBs (or was it turbo?)
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Hello everybody! Personally I'm waiting for is a good position or when a good hand. I think we should not hesitate to steal the blinds anyway you're forced to take risks so they just need to optimize them better. See you soon for a new post lol!
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with only 6 blinds and the rest 15 plus every time you play a hand you are practically forced to go all in but with that JT you have to be a little lucky to win the pot.
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Posted by Hajinnho:
Posted by johnnygan: I posted a thread almost the same before, but I came across another situation. I was playing in a $5 tournament the other day at PS. The cut line was 264 and I was 350. I was the short shack on the table with 6 blinds to go. Everybody else had about 15 plus. I went all-in with JT suited lost of course. So my question is when do u go all-in and with what kind of a hand. Do u wait for a hand? The only thing is if u wait for a good hand u might not have that much chips left and it would be just like somebody calling.
dont think you really wanna play JT. So push them in late position would be okay to get some blinds or can at least play lifecardpoker. otherwise you need a hand...
normally i would push much earlier than 6 BBs (or was it turbo?)
You can't have your cake and eat it too...
You WOULDN'T push JT but you would also push BEFORE you got to 6 BB ? And yet at 6 BB you would fold JTs and wait for a better spot ??
I think this is why i laugh a lot on poker forums.. All these people who bang on about how the ONLY hand they'll play in a game of POKER is AA and everything else is any easy fold
I think we all know, yes, if you're running like god in an MTT, hitting all kinds of monsters, then yes, you can afford to fold JTs, and a whole range of other marginal hands. But when u card dead, rapidly getting blinded out, you gotta make some moves and JTs might just be your best hope.
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when Im short I go all in with Ax and pocket pairs, I will go also with KT's+ QJ+ not sure if it is the proper way, but usually works, gotta check your position also
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by Hajinnho:
Posted by johnnygan: I posted a thread almost the same before, but I came across another situation. I was playing in a $5 tournament the other day at PS. The cut line was 264 and I was 350. I was the short shack on the table with 6 blinds to go. Everybody else had about 15 plus. I went all-in with JT suited lost of course. So my question is when do u go all-in and with what kind of a hand. Do u wait for a hand? The only thing is if u wait for a good hand u might not have that much chips left and it would be just like somebody calling.
dont think you really wanna play JT. So push them in late position would be okay to get some blinds or can at least play lifecardpoker. otherwise you need a hand...
normally i would push much earlier than 6 BBs (or was it turbo?)
You can't have your cake and eat it too...
You WOULDN'T push JT but you would also push BEFORE you got to 6 BB ? And yet at 6 BB you would fold JTs and wait for a better spot ??
I think this is why i laugh a lot on poker forums.. All these people who bang on about how the ONLY hand they'll play in a game of POKER is AA and everything else is any easy fold
I think we all know, yes, if you're running like god in an MTT, hitting all kinds of monsters, then yes, you can afford to fold JTs, and a whole range of other marginal hands. But when u card dead, rapidly getting blinded out, you gotta make some moves and JTs might just be your best hope.
thats not what i said.... i wouldnt push JT in early or middle position. I start pushing weak aces or pps when i`m with about 13 BBs left in late position. When it comes to about 10 BBs i just try to steal blinds beeing lucky with an even weaker hand. so i mostly go broke with 10 BBs or manage to double up... or i am lucky and get a hand to play in a worse position... but thats just an option...
i mean if you are on 6 BBs left, even AA will not help any longer... because imagine: even though you double up you are with 12 BBs and still prety short.
but go on laughing... i wont blame me for my post at all...
Well first mistake is that you waited until you had only 6xBB. I consider myself being shortstacked if I have 15xBB but thats different for everyone(for example Phil helmut considers himself st if he has 25xBB or less).
Since that point I only fold or go all in. You have to figure out when. While waiting you can spend 3xBB(cause 12XBB is still sufficient to get you out of shortstacked position,which 6XBB is def not) so if theres 10 people at the table it means you ll get to see from 19 to 28 hands.
You dont have to wait for AA KK(altough its nice to get them).In my opinion you should play the first decent hand you get.
Thats how I do it. Sometimes it works sometimes not but you have to gamble in order to win right?
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its allways the same story i ll wait for more better hand and also if i am on bb i must push all in and dont worry if have only 23 just hope for luck or easy out if u want to win u must collect more points not be at the end off the list
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Posted by johnnygan: When do you go all in ?
I mostly go all in, when i feel myself ahead and am sure another players pays me out. That simple (but that it really works that way is not simple -.-)
With 6bb left, I'd be using a stall tactic to slow down my table (hoping that enough other players @ other tables get knocked out before me). Push with any pair, A-10 or better and any suited face cards.
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Posted by johnnygan: I posted a thread almost the same before, but I came across another situation. I was playing in a $5 tournament the other day at PS. The cut line was 264 and I was 350. I was the short shack on the table with 6 blinds to go. Everybody else had about 15 plus. I went all-in with JT suited lost of course. So my question is when do u go all-in and with what kind of a hand. Do u wait for a hand? The only thing is if u wait for a good hand u might not have that much chips left and it would be just like somebody calling.
last as long as possible, remember theres antes at that point so if you win your last chance your winning antes thats gets you another go around, twice i was in a 4000 player game and like 900 and only had 1 blind plus a little in both game, i scraped and scraped and ended up finishing 18th and 15th, but chit went out in both on AA all in pre when I was in 12th with 18 left, but thats poker, never forget antes add up to
Hello all..! My opinion the poker on a short distance 60-40 percentages, on a long distance in 70-30 percentages fortune. Maybe, that you not good player like that, but we sit down, and receives good sheets, arranges me so then, that only rattle. But cannot make it on a long distance because the sheet does not come always luckily. If somebody announces an all waves, the effect of the fortune ceases then, there is not a change. I believe it if I have two aces, there is not a right sheet at it, and call in 100-200 dollars. May be however with a six fiver at the other one, and if he comes up the flopba one nine, one eight and a week, I may be going then with my ace, where want.
or do you use pograms which show you you are ahead? 
