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dlkiv came up with a suggestion in another thread:
what if in order to use the or rating it cost you a mob point ? That way maybe people would use it fairly. Or maybe 5 mob points
The thumbs up/down are the buttons that you can find in the upper right corner of all posts in the forum.
Not too many people actually use it and every now and then, somebody will use it to all posts by a specific user, not because his posts are bad, but because he doesn't like the author of the posts. That's kinda not the idea with the thumbs up/down system.
Currently we use the results of thumbs up/down to show a list of best posts and best posters (authors) in the forum: http://www.bankrollmob.com/forum.asp?top20=show#forumstats ... and to hide posts that receives too many thumbs down, like if somebody comes here to spam, you guys can quickly remove his post by giving him enough thumbs down. Later, we might even expand it to a few hours "ban from forum" if a user receives too many thumbs down, as a way to get a spammer to cool down until we can move in and take action.
Anyway - the idea by dlkiv to use Mob Points with the thumbs up/down is interesting, so I would like to hear your thoughts on it and how you would like it to work (if we decide to do it). Just remember, if it can be abused, it will be abused. Sometimes people are more interested in a few Mob Points than getting a no deposit bonus
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This is genius lol just kidding
B1gfoot also added in that thread that maybe for a the point/points should go to the poster who is getting the and to add to that maybe with a all the points collected in say a month could go into some type of draw for all the peeps who got in that month!!
Just a thought ( lol OMG i am thinking again aaahhhh ).
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I think idea with use points for thumbs up/down is not bad. I have a few ideas too: 1. For thumbs up points that are taking from who use it must go to the member who wright that post. In this way I think more BRM members will try make interesting and informative posts, becouse in this way they will can earn some more points. 2. For thumbs down also take points, but if lets say 5 members use it , that mean the post is realy bad and for a few hours "ban from forum" who make the post and back points to members who use thumbs down. In this way who use thumbs down for fun or that dont like member who make post will need pay with points for this, but for real bad posts members who use thumbs down will not loose points and member who flod in forum will be baned untill Administrator of forum will be here and will can take action.
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Posted by dorinba: I think idea with use points for thumbs up/down is not bad. I have a few ideas too: 1. For thumbs up points that are taking from who use it must go to the member who wright that post. In this way I think more BRM members will try make interesting and informative posts, becouse in this way they will can earn some more points. 2. For thumbs down also take points, but if lets say 5 members use it , that mean the post is realy bad and for a few hours "ban from forum" who make the post and back points to members who use thumbs down. In this way who use thumbs down for fun or that dont like member who make post will need pay with points for this, but for real bad posts members who use thumbs down will not loose points and member who flod in forum will be baned untill Administrator of forum will be here and will can take action.
I like that too #1 is what B1gfoot has said and as for part of #2 in regards to real bad posts and waiting for admin and not losing points casue of a bad post , ya good point
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regardings thumbs up its easy i think, just transfer the points (like 5 points) to the poster who recieved the thumb up. each user would be willing to pay 5 points for a good post. but for thumbs down it will be a bit more difficult i guess - paying points for a bad post or to remove posts ...dont get me wrong, its not about the points but the princip. well probably we could make a thumbs down lottery. like...we throw all the thumbs down points in a lottery, the first 3 or 5 guys who recieved the most thumbs up in a month may participate for free, the rest has to buy tickets or something, or only those with a certain amount of thumbs up may participate.
anyways, the thumbs down have no effect on "best posts and best posters" in the forum ? thumbs up yes, but thumbs down ? all it does is removing posts..? so why make a drama out of recieving a thumb down by a single user.
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I think its just good enough when it just costs 5 mob points per or ! -no need to make it so complicated people . I think admin will get a headache before he can manage to make speacial mobdraws for given points lol.
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Posted by Kristan: I think its just good enough when it just costs 5 mob points per or ! -no need to make it so complicated people . I think admin will get a headache before he can manage to make speacial mobdraws for given points lol.
lol Then I would say welcome to my headache world (damned allergies )
T3ddyKGB the whole reason this has come up is due to some posts about people "abusing" the and some take it as offensive. This is just a thought I had and this thread is to get peoples thoughts on if/how/ etc.
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Posted by T3ddyKGB: anyways, the thumbs down have no effect on "best posts and best posters" in the forum ? thumbs up yes, but thumbs down ? all it does is removing posts..? so why make a drama out of recieving a thumb down by a single user.
Actually I think it does, if you have 10 thumbs up and 3 thumbs down, you would have a rating of 7, in the "best posters"-category, for example. But in reality, I don't think it makes a difference, since it's highly unlikely that people will thumb down something that other people think is worth a thumb up.
I think it will be hard to make it cost point to use thumb down, people will speculate "is this worth 5 points, to thumb down this spammer?". We also can't "fine" people for getting too many thumbs down.
Now that I think about it, the same may apply to thumbs up. People will think "do I really want to spend 5 points of my own, to give to this guy, when giving thumbs up" ... ?
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Posted by Administrator:
Posted by T3ddyKGB: anyways, the thumbs down have no effect on "best posts and best posters" in the forum ? thumbs up yes, but thumbs down ? all it does is removing posts..? so why make a drama out of recieving a thumb down by a single user.
Actually I think it does, if you have 10 thumbs up and 3 thumbs down, you would have a rating of 7, in the "best posters"-category, for example. But in reality, I don't think it makes a difference, since it's highly unlikely that people will thumb down something that other people think is worth a thumb up.
I think it will be hard to make it cost point to use thumb down, people will speculate "is this worth 5 points, to thumb down this spammer?". We also can't "fine" people for getting too many thumbs down.
Now that I think about it, the same may apply to thumbs up. People will think "do I really want to spend 5 points of my own, to give to this guy, when giving thumbs up" ... ?
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not a bad idea but i disagree with the system of adding or removing points from someone who posts for a few obvious reasons and on of them is what the boss said in his last post
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I get what the intention is but sorry I just don't like the idea. I actually think people need to give more +votes not less and the idea of paying for the privilege of is likely to deter people. While I agree that people use the far too frequently and for childish reasons or simply difference of opinion it's not a good idea to make people pay for this either as this will result in offensive posts and posts which break the rules taking longer to be hidden.
It's a tough one cos I can't see any easy solution. It's difficult to create incentive for voting when it's so easily open to corruption.
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Ok. I've been thinking of few ideas. Not 100% about them myself but thought I'd put them up for discussion
1/ What if when you someone you have to buy a mob draw ticket so you're not really being punished for helping to keep the forum clean but there is some incentive not to go crazy. Maybe after one a week you no longer buy tickets, you just add a point to the draw prize pool. Improving BRM in more ways than one.
2/ After a post gets enough maybe they have to add points to the draw prize pool so if there is a general agreement with your thumbs down rating you get the advantage of a better chance in the draw. Problem there though is that once a user receives two negative readings others will jump on the bandwagon.
3/ When giving a person you could use one of your mob points to buy them a ticket. The advantage of this as opposed to simply giving them one point is it gives people more incentive especially if they have tickets themselves. Added points from negative rating without tickets will also balance out the good/bad posts and make people want to receive more and therefore give more
4/ What if a person who had received a negative rating could challenge the rater (who remains anonymous) if they felt they were wrongly judged. If the reason for the rating was not obvious to BRM support then a private email would be sent to the rater asking him to justify his action. The person who challenges would have to pay 50 points or something but if he was in the right the rater would have to pay the fee. So ppl would then think twice before they The only problem I see would be that 1 isn't so bad to risk 50 points.
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Posted by awood88: Ok. I've been thinking of few ideas. Not 100% about them myself but thought I'd put them up for discussion
1/ What if when you someone you have to buy a mob draw ticket so you're not really being punished for helping to keep the forum clean but there is some incentive not to go crazy. Maybe after one a week you no longer buy tickets, you just add a point to the draw prize pool. Improving BRM in more ways than one.
2/ After a post gets enough maybe they have to add points to the draw prize pool so if there is a general agreement with your thumbs down rating you get the advantage of a better chance in the draw. Problem there though is that once a user receives two negative readings others will jump on the bandwagon.
3/ When giving a person you could use one of your mob points to buy them a ticket. The advantage of this as opposed to simply giving them one point is it gives people more incentive especially if they have tickets themselves. Added points from negative rating without tickets will also balance out the good/bad posts and make people want to receive more and therefore give more
4/ What if a person who had received a negative rating could challenge the rater (who remains anonymous) if they felt they were wrongly judged. If the reason for the rating was not obvious to BRM support then a private email would be sent to the rater asking him to justify his action. The person who challenges would have to pay 50 points or something but if he was in the right the rater would have to pay the fee. So ppl would then think twice before they The only problem I see would be that 1 isn't so bad to risk 50 points.
man you must be bored in there! ahhahaa.
What if it simply takes away 5 points and thats all. Why you have to overthink things lol
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See wht you have done dlkiv Heres my idea, leave it alone. 1. It wont get used as much, as no one wants to pay to 2.Bad posts will remain 3.Does it relly get abused that much to warrent change.
I go for outher. Admin should send the bankrollmob crew around to the PPL who abuse it, bust in to thier homes smash up thier computer and slap the offender with a wet kipper, after resolving the problem straighten thier ties and return to the office.
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I cant see why it would work any better than the system we have in place now.
So if it only cost a point to give a thumbs down and get it removed will only cost you 5 points? (not sure if its correct but even if its 10 then its still a small price to get a thread removed).
and what if people dont police it as well as its costing them points to get crap taken off quickly, will the points be replaced if they are used to remove halmfull or pornographic threads? (extream but you get the drift)
or 
rating it cost you a mob point ? That way maybe people would use it fairly. Or maybe 5 mob points 
. I think admin will get a headache before he can manage to make speacial mobdraws for 
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