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  16-May-11, 19:12   #1
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BredByAliens 

Joined: May '11
Location: United States
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 8
I figured I’d check out NoPayPoker just to play in-between real money tourneys. I played in 2 Freerolls simultaneously that started at exactly the same time. I was dealt KK on the first hand in both games and went all in before the flop. I was called and beaten by the same hand 9c Qc by players in the same exact position to me on the table that sucked out on the river for Q high flushes. The odds of this occurring are almost incalculable. I informed NPP and asked them to tell me the odds. They told me to give them the Hand Numbers and they would look into it. Who rights down or memorizes something that i have NEVER on any site in 10 years been asked to do, the hand number. The only way to check your hand history is by remembering the actual hand number. There is no way to look up your hand history by game, tournament, date or time. And the kicker is that they remove you from the game immediately after you lose, making it impossible to go back and find this all so important hand number. I played some more just to see what happened. I couldn’t lose. I was calling roughly 70% of the river cards before they were flopped based on my hole cards and the board. I decided to share my findings with fellow players and was banned for SITE BASHING. We’ve all heard of disgruntled losers but I was winning and even apologizing to other players for absurd bad beats they took repeatedly. This site is not only NOT worth FREE but I wouldn’t play there if they paid me!!!

     
  16-May-11, 19:26   #2
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dozn01 

Joined: Sep '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 5000
so did they actually scam you out of any money ???

     
  16-May-11, 19:32   #3
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BredByAliens 

Joined: May '11
Location: United States
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 8
If I would have paid for their premium membership they would have. There really isnt anything to win anyways. The top earners their since the site opened have under $400,000 of their FreeD money. 200 FreeD = $1 USD. So under $2,000 and god knows how long and arduous that journey was.

     
  16-May-11, 20:55   #4
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rbdflyboy 

Joined: Apr '11
Location: Canada
Age: 63 (M)
Posts: 1222
There's a train of thought out there I've heard many times. Alot of people say the computer picks the winner. True, I don't know ...I'm on the fence. Sounds like it in this case.
BTW if I may offer a suggestion...I use Pure Play as a play money site...learnt how to play against maniacs there. Can be alot of fun and one can actually win some money there. Don't expect to get rick.

Edited by rbdflyboy (Monday, May 16, 2011 @ 21:02 GMT)


     
  16-May-11, 21:03   #5
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 4873
you got what you deserved for playing on that joke site. and u created account here only to bash that site???
i warned many times ppl not to join there cos of the stuff they do which u not even experienced.
and u wrote to their support - support is run by a retired school teacher and their mod admin and they do what they want.
dont expect any genuine help from them, cos they really dont give a f**k about ur queries

btw its an affiliate site, so u not supposed to discuss about it here.

     
  16-May-11, 21:12   #6
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BredByAliens 

Joined: May '11
Location: United States
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 8
Thanks for the heads-up. Ill check it out. Im on the fence too about the integrity of some sites. I really dont want to think that the major sites have in anyway incorporated this "Exciting Play" into their software somehow to anyone especially newcomers. If I believed that, Id have to quit playing and frankly I enjoy it too much. I dont plan on getting RICH on any site. I just enjoy the game and Id much rather spend $20 for a few hours of play with an opportunity to win $ back instead of lets say paying $12 for a movie and another $8 on a box of milkduds only to be disappointed with Hollywood again.

     
  16-May-11, 22:54   #7
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Arithmajik 

Joined: Feb '11
Location: Canada
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 1647
Welcome to the forum BredByAliens, glad to have you even given the circumstances.

If playing poker for free is your thing you should check out some of the no deposit bonuses
on Bank Roll Mob. That's how I got my start.

It might be tough qualifying for them though given that you're in the US.

Good luck.

     
  16-May-11, 23:05   #8
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GIOMi6 

Joined: Feb '10
Location: Suriname
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 1189
Well I do not believe it is true, you just got unlucky that time my friend, just a bad beat in my opinion. There shall be other days then you will win the bad beat.

     
  16-May-11, 23:29   #9
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BredByAliens 

Joined: May '11
Location: United States
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 8
Honestly, I could care less about a bad beat in a freeroll with virtually nothing to be won. However, as and industrial engineer and math teacher I was very interested in the probabilities. There is a huge difference between a bad beat and 2 exact same bad beats that occur simultaneously at the same site. Then when I was not given a response to my request and was banned for sharing everything that happened so quickly with fellow players, I was left to ponder their true agenda. If they had nothing to hide they should have just dismissed me as some crank. I do appreciate your response and I cant say that part of me doesnt agree with you. Ill just chalk this one up as a lesson learned. Nothing is for Free.

     
  17-May-11, 00:38   #10
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Nick177C 
Joined: Aug '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 20
I have play there a period a time ago, I liked the week leagues and won sometimes a week never problems with the cards there are lot free gamblers and they win sometimes. I had tilted one time there with 7.000 freeds and then is it difficult to start again with nothing.

I dont know what happend with cashouts there i never try it.

on the long run i won versus bad players.

     
  17-May-11, 06:38   #11
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Pjot 
Joined: May '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 1362
Posted by BredByAliens:
I was dealt KK on the first hand in both games and went all in before the flop. I was called and beaten by the same hand 9c Qc by players in the same exact position to me on the table that sucked out on the river for Q high flushes.

I usually am pretty tired of people telling about some abnormal happenings by the felt and then declaring that the site is rigged, but this IS absurd!

Although, with all the billions of pokerhands played around the net, it has to happen sometime, I suppose. I would have felt lite there is something wrong with their software. I can't see any reason for them to do this on purpose?

     
  17-May-11, 11:23   #12
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MarcWinz 

Joined: Oct '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 657
Hi. I joined NOPAYPOKER aswell. I used the site for almost 3 minutes. That was long enough to tell me it wasn't very good. I suggest you take one of the great offers from BRM and use it sensibly. If you do this you will succeed, but remember poker is a marathon and not a sprint. I think your "bad beats" were due to the fact that the winner on that site was probably picked before the tourney started.

GL in the future for all you mobsters.......................

Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  17-May-11, 13:48   #13
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tormulainen 

Joined: Dec '07
Location: Finland
Age: 65 (M)
Posts: 329
i have learned the hardway in playing in small pokerrooms. in 2006 i playing in 1 site and was robbed 1000€ and after that i decided that i will only play in famous sites cause i dont wanna lose my money on scam pokersites.

     
  17-May-11, 14:18   #14
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BredByAliens 

Joined: May '11
Location: United States
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 8
Maybe Im just the luckiest, unlucky player for the moment. Im guessing quadrillions of hands played though since the inception of online poker. I dont think they did it on purpose either and i dont think their employees know the real truth but I bet they have a clue.

     
  17-May-11, 15:16   #15
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 4873
the biggest problem with that site is way they treat people there, they just dont seem to want to keep their players.
look what their " pro writer" ( cough cough...) has to say about real money sites -

" Second, see if you can identify a screen name that ONLY plays pocket cards that substantially match the ‘Playable Pockets Matrix’ .
Then, look to see if that screen name rarely raises.
If true, it’s likely a Poker Bot."

" see if you can spot a player who consistently draws out in a winning fashion.
Someone who is frequently being visited by ‘Lady Luck’ on turn and river cards, while betting pre-turn or pre-river without a current ‘nuts’ hand.
It’s likely a player who is using an advanced algorithm that predicts, with accuracy, the next card to come from the deck; he/she has broken the code associated with the site’s Random Number Generator. "

how can someone call himself a pro after writing such shameless retarded nonsense Shock Shock
seems to have no idea whatsover about online poker or is intentionally defaming real money sites

     
  17-May-11, 16:03   #16
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BredByAliens 

Joined: May '11
Location: United States
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 8
That is hilarious. How am I supposed to identify a screen name that ONLY plays pocket cards that substantially match the ‘Playable Pockets Matrix’ if they are winning and I never get to see their hole crads unless they are called? Then, as if its just common to find players that can create such advanced algorithms to bust real money sites. And if you possibly did break the code to the RNG why are you only predicting with accuracy? Wouldnt you know exactly what the cards to be flopped are? I just checked this out before posting:

http://www.cigital.com/papers/download/developer_gambli...

"We know who holds what cards, what the rest of the flop looks, and who is going to win in advance."

     
  12-Nov-12, 23:55   #17
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oliver082298 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Philippines
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 1011
Posted by BredByAliens:
I figured I�d check out NoPayPoker just to play in-between real money tourneys. I played in 2 Freerolls simultaneously that started at exactly the same time. I was dealt KK on the first hand in both games and went all in before the flop. I was called and beaten by the same hand 9c Qc by players in the same exact position to me on the table that sucked out on the river for Q high flushes. The odds of this occurring are almost incalculable. I informed NPP and asked them to tell me the odds. They told me to give them the Hand Numbers and they would look into it. Who rights down or memorizes something that i have NEVER on any site in 10 years been asked to do, the hand number. The only way to check your hand history is by remembering the actual hand number. There is no way to look up your hand history by game, tournament, date or time. And the kicker is that they remove you from the game immediately after you lose, making it impossible to go back and find this all so important hand number. I played some more just to see what happened. I couldn�t lose. I was calling roughly 70% of the river cards before they were flopped based on my hole cards and the board. I decided to share my findings with fellow players and was banned for SITE BASHING. We�ve all heard of disgruntled losers but I was winning and even apologizing to other players for absurd bad beats they took repeatedly. This site is not only NOT worth FREE but I wouldn�t play there if they paid me!!!


Tongue u did not lose any, so why you sore Question , if you think only nopaypoker had hands like that think again... i think you have not played on other sites... you just bashing site, and moderators there were volunteers just think of the time they sacrificed just to make site more comfortable to play, assisting new players, and moderating chat so that everyone's protected from being harrased online... see nopaypoker's trust rating?, 100% ffs Worship

     
  29-Nov-12, 09:52   #18
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nunoclix 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 8
NoPayPoker always paid me bro, i play there since December 2009 and i always get paid Smile

I already made more the 1500 usd for free so you can do it too, GOOD LUCK!

     
  29-Nov-12, 10:31   #19
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 6668
Nice thread revival lol, not sure if you noticed bu this thread was made over one year ago...

As for NoPayPoker i had a friends that used to play there but quit, not sure what the reasons were.

     
  29-Nov-12, 13:22   #20
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 1824
I have same experience at merge, Bred. I just think that's random system problem, not intend the site to scam. So I want someday we enjoy live dealer,lol. when the dream come true ?
anyway, I several time withdraw and sold my freeD when 100 FreeD = $1. Maybe I won $100 from there and stop when 200 freeD = $1.

     
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