Joined: Oct '11
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am i a donk?
somebody kept calling me a donk earlier and was quite insistent on it
the game was a fixed limit holdem sng my stack was low i had'nt had any decent cards and any pictures i did get i got pushed out by flushes or straights
so i had Kc Qh
i was in late position so i raised, he re raised me so i thought fk it and re raised (i initially put him on A suited as he pulled a similar move earlier with A7h)
the flop was 2 low non matching cards and a king so i raise, he again re raises so i call this happens for the turn and river (cant remember what came out)
and he shows pocket tens to my kq then hes going mental in chat calling me a donk
Joined: Feb '11
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Depends what you or him define as donk play. Your line is very questionable if I understood it correctly,but you wouldve won the hand regardless. If you put him on a suited A preflop there is no need to 4bet,KQ doesnt play great vs. a normal 3betting range (people at low stakes play FL like NL in terms of hand selection),and vs. an aggressive fishy player I would never 4bet here either way,not even AA. If they have AK/AQ/KK/QQ and you hit the flop,it actually has negative equity because you will lose chips longterm more often than you win any (with KQ that is). If I understood it correctly,you bet into him,he raises,you call. On turn and river the same thing you bet into him both streets? If so that's a pretty bad line.
My line in this hand would be: raise pre,call the 3bet call flop bet raise his turn bet and call a 3bet call river bet
In FL the bet amount on turn and river is double the amount of preflop and flop betting rounds,so most of your value plays have to be on these 2 streets. With a good hand I rarely raise the flop in FL,I usually raise the turn because it gets me double the value that I would get from a flop raise. Flop raises/bets into aggressor I'd only suggest if I wanted to semi bluff with open enders/flushdraws and that kind of thing.
So to sum up - your line is questionable,but you're not getting away from the hand either way,so it doesnt matter too much
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With a K at the flop and he is calling you a donk? He’s the donk, that’s right! You know I feel some sadness because I still can’t forget your nick from the first Party Pokerfreeroll I played to this BRM Leaderboard and that you eliminated me, but this things happen, it wasn’t your fault  mate! But I think you played well, doing what you had to do, being in late position you had to risk, and this was the best chance you thought you had to do it, and turns out it really was. Your opponent just didn’t had the capacity of reading you. If you’re put aside so many times, of course you would risk more when you could, and that’s what you did. He thought you were bluffin and when he saw your K he went mad. Don’t care about that. Keep teaching guys like this!
Joined: Oct '11
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thanks for the replies mobsters
bemyatm, yeah i placed bets for the turn and he raised, for the river he just called my raise (there was no threat for a straight or flush)
lukasb i'm not sure what A/rag is but i would probably call the all in with AJ/10 suited rarely anything lower unless i've been bullied and i crack
fakiry my sincere apologies (i usually ask in chat if anyones from brm to avoid taking them out) the free rolls are slightly annoying with the constant all ins for the first hour or so
i still don't fully comprehend pot odds and have only now been taking position into consideration just as much as the cards i have
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bemyatmplz analysis was good, but your play not too bad. your opp was donk after you call his reraise on flop and there is K he still reraise you until river without 10 show.
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Do you really care if he thinks that you are a donk? I have had people call me all kinds of things, and sometimes in the same position as you: SNG, getting late and not many chips, call with two not so strong cards and take down much better ones. Opponent goes mental. If there is one definite reason to leave the chat on and not block chat its so that you know when an opponent is on tilt. Anyone raging in the chat box is ripe for the picking IMO.
sounds like your OP tilted bad after the loss...he thought he was going to outplay you. You were supposed to feel dominated and give up. The betting pattern was meant for you to put him on the wrong hand range and fold. In this case you were right...sometimes you'll be wrong...that's usually when the donk, fish comments come out.
Joined: Oct '11
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not really it was a good play he only felt tilted after the loss standart play with what u had kq later position maybe u had a tell so nice play and dont bother with the bad comments kee improving your game and dont even other respond to haters
