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Posted by rbdflyboy: money fur notin n chicks fur fre
Just about...without the chicks.
I think they´re calling it "Overlay" because there are few runners for the guaranteed prize money. Played a few, but what you see hitting the board there is ridiculous. I don´t get it. straights, quads, trips, you name it... Monster hands don´t cut it!
I deposited €20 after losing the €15 Euro I won in Beta in 2 days. Then I was 8th in the Midnight Overlay, and won back €30 in that.
But still, what I´m seeing is not normal. Quads 3 times in 3-4 minutes!!! Lost 3 tourneys with 1 minute difference, all with runner staights. That means 3 runner straights pre-flop within 3 minutes...
It seems like 8/10 of my monster hands are losing to trips going in pre-flop as well. Against 1 (one) player.
WTF ? I believe in varience...but this?
I haven´t seen quads in weeks, and here they are landing like it´s the most regular hand in the world.
And I´m not stupid, so these are not post with 6 callers in them, otherwise I might understand.
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I win a few €..came in 2nd at best.
BUT... I don´t even have the words to describe what I´m seeing. The trips saga continues.
I have now had ALL the top hands beat by trips. Most repeatedly.
AA KK QQ AK AQ AJ JJ and A10.... All this is 1 night. And most of them against 1 player. Also the full Houses i forgot to mention. My last one was KK against. Always pre-flop, of course. There you go! Going to quit now, kinda fed up with this "garbage" play. It´s just horrible to watch...
Up about €30 after losing soooooooo many tournaments.
For the Cash players: Hurry !!! These idiots are going all-in pre with A3´s and calling with J9´s . Really, I played about 20 min.and this was going on at my table. It´s incredible....
------------ ----- Started up another tournament. First hand an idiot goes AI with 75 against KK Hits both the 7 and 5
Next hand I go in AK against 82...he hits the 8 and the 2... I´m out.
No way in Hell I believe any of this is normal. Been seeing this all night if you read this post. I´m sure I´ll be bombarded by the words "sample size"...but c´mon... I´ve been playing (ans seeing) this go on for almost 12 hours now, with 4-6 tables going all the time.
Someone care to explain? Been playing for 2 years and never seen anything even close to this.
Seriously, could there be something wrong with the algorithms etc. they are using somehow? I don´t get it. Or is it just the sheer number of all-ins that create this situation?
Edited by IslandJack (17 November 2011 @ 05:59 GMT)
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I've seen big hands go down here too, but I've also been playing a lot. They're RNG has to be good in order to get their license right? I guess it'd be hard for players to crunch the data given their proprietary software.
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Was thinking that too, of course. But I just played another one.
AA against 23....the guy flops a straight again, 456...I´m out. It´s not like I´m going in with garbage, right? And I see it happening all around, to everyone.
---- Another one already: AQ vs 10 5...he hits trip 5´s.
...and the third one 1 minute later, I called his AJ with garbage..and he hits trip J´s.
It´s not that I´m complaining, I made some cash and an entry for the 10.000 Christmas Tournament (after 20 tries) , but this is not right somehow, I think. Just don´t know....
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all these crazy hands might be due to excess of bingo players but anyhow cant find anything on their site about credibility of the RNG or the agency testing it
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Posted by IslandJack:
Posted by rbdflyboy: money fur notin n chicks fur fre
Just about...without the chicks.
I think they're calling it "Overlay" because there are few runners for the guaranteed prize money. Played a few, but what you see hitting the board there is ridiculous. I don't get it. straights, quads, trips, you name it... Monster hands don't cut it!
I deposited �20 after losing the �15 Euro I won in Beta in 2 days. Then I was 8th in the Midnight Overlay, and won back �30 in that.
But still, what I'm seeing is not normal. Quads 3 times in 3-4 minutes!!! Lost 3 tourneys with 1 minute difference, all with runner staights. That means 3 runner straights pre-flop within 3 minutes...
It seems like 8/10 of my monster hands are losing to trips going in pre-flop as well. Against 1 (one) player.
WTF ? I believe in varience...but this?
I haven't seen quads in weeks, and here they are landing like it's the most regular hand in the world.
And I'm not stupid, so these are not post with 6 callers in them, otherwise I might understand.
Anybody else seen this? Comments please.
I wanted to say this for a long time, that this site looks like what you just said. But being called a rightard for saying that some sites does not look really random kept me away from it Like Supernoob just said, it might be because of the massive bingo players. But its really sick
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Let me just remind you that this site is not verified at all, bankrollmob closes a deal with them. That doesn't mean they test their Dealing RNG.
I'm not saying the site is rigged but their always is a chance. Sites like Party, Stars and rooms of the OnGame Network are tested on 3575000 hands to see if the site is not rigged and all those sites are legit.
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Posted by IslandJack:
Posted by rbdflyboy: money fur notin n chicks fur fre
Just about...without the chicks.
I think they're calling it "Overlay" because there are few runners for the guaranteed prize money. Played a few, but what you see hitting the board there is ridiculous. I don't get it. straights, quads, trips, you name it... Monster hands don't cut it!
I deposited ?20 after losing the ?15 Euro I won in Beta in 2 days. Then I was 8th in the Midnight Overlay, and won back ?30 in that.
But still, what I'm seeing is not normal. Quads 3 times in 3-4 minutes!!! Lost 3 tourneys with 1 minute difference, all with runner staights. That means 3 runner straights pre-flop within 3 minutes...
It seems like 8/10 of my monster hands are losing to trips going in pre-flop as well. Against 1 (one) player.
WTF ? I believe in varience...but this?
I haven't seen quads in weeks, and here they are landing like it's the most regular hand in the world.
And I'm not stupid, so these are not post with 6 callers in them, otherwise I might understand.
Anybody else seen this? Comments please.
Hi all!
I think all of us have had days like this in any site. Do not think you have to worry about these things, unless they appear a lot more people posting the same and we repeat again and again ...
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I can tell you a site that is deffo fixed, just let me tell you the story and no I dont play bingo I hate it so here goes keep awake.
I was sent £9 free to play on a bingocasino site, true I never asked for it it arrived in my inbox, like I said I wouldnt play or join a bo-llox bingo site but I thought £9 for nowt so I checked it out and low and behold by just giving the min info on myself bingo no pun intended there was 9 quid in my account to o play bingo that was the only catch, I couldnt play the casino with it.
So I go through this 9 quid in about 20 mins, I first started with 1 ticket because I dont know what to do really and if its fast I have no chance to keep up, the game started and I didnt need to do anything the site crossed of my numbers for me, I didnt win owt on that 1 ticket so I bought 6 to play at once, nowt bought 12 nowt and played 12 tickets till my cash ran out, I wasnt going to stay or deposit any way unless I won then I would have left some in and drawn the rest out.
Now I have told you that bit this is the bit that made it obvious that it is fixed for the house.
The winners are shown up on the screen and this is true most of the winners repeated themselves many many times, these names would win the line and the house these names raked it in.
Now here is my point it is ok in most countries for sites to have (shills) in there games, be it pokercasino, bingo ect, shills are there to play for the house, mainly to fill any empty seats places ect keeping the tables full. Now that site had a few shills playing thats ok, my point is that these house players won so much in the short time I played which was only 20 mins, meaning that the tickets must also have been fixed, and winning tickets must have been given to those players deffo, I am sure that others will have picked up on this cheating it was so obvious, now thats only my view, but it doesnt seem fair to me.
I dont think it is possible in a fair game of bingo to win so often has the shills did.
Just in case any one on here mentions that shills are not paid much and do play with there own cash I know that but it still seems fixed to me.
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Posted by godward89: I make comments like Island Jack and automatically I'm a rigtard ......
I´m not actually saying it´s rigged, I´m just wondering after a few days of play, and especially the volume yesterday, in how far these are "statistically normal" results. It´s purely "perception" for the moment.
A few important factors:
1. People play the worst Poker i have EVER seen on High Pulse, bar no site except Facebook. I thought the "huge" 3.600 runners freerolls on FT in the first part of the year were bad in that respect, but this .... They really throw ANY 2 cards on the table for their whole stack. As the for AK against 23 for example are 65/35 % respectively, and all-in there usually involve 2-4 players, it is VERY likely that the top hands just get crushed by 23 86 94 for example all in the same hand, 1 of which is likely to hit something at least.
2. The fact that everyone calls all-ins with "everything" also means there are a lot of mid-range cards hitting the deck, which obviously allows for more chances to hit a straight. By the same token, Fulshes did NOT seem to be excessive, which is also logical as the increased "range" of hands will have little additional influence on hitting them. (hope that was understandable?) More 2´s 3´s etc will not create more diamonds, spades, etc) Does that make sense?
3. The trips have me a bit baffled. But...it could be explained that a lot of players will fold smaller pairs even up to QQ to an all-in in a serious game. The fact that any pair is an immediate all-in on High Pulse, could mean that there are SO many pairs seeing a board, the trips have more of a change to develop. ?? I don´t know, the sheer number of trips I saw yesterday was mindblowing, but I am still looking for a logical explanation for that one.
Just mainly curious about others who may have spent some time on High Pulse and have some thoughts on the issue.