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  4-Jan-12, 06:59   #1
Bad Beat or just a bad Bet 0 
arthur72 

Joined: Mar '09
Location: Australia
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 325
So I have pocket nines lets see how this unfold just shy of the bubble lol I am Big Blind

PokerStars Game #73255227022: Tournament #492601466, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2012/01/04 17:47:32 AEST [2012/01/04 1:47:32 ET]
Table '492601466 116' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: fisherfis692 (17255 in chips)
Seat 2: JIM.LAHEY747 (1885 in chips)
Seat 3: arthur72 (8176 in chips)
Seat 4: Makach777 (13790 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: abcaabc (19499 in chips)
Seat 6: magic ace37 (33579 in chips)
Seat 7: jokermc18 (2150 in chips)
Seat 8: Elektrik59ru (9575 in chips)
Seat 9: 39 RUS_SOV (8275 in chips)
fisherfis692: posts the ante 50
JIM.LAHEY747: posts the ante 50
arthur72: posts the ante 50
Makach777: posts the ante 50
abcaabc: posts the ante 50
magic ace37: posts the ante 50
jokermc18: posts the ante 50
Elektrik59ru: posts the ante 50
39 RUS_SOV: posts the ante 50
JIM.LAHEY747: posts small blind 300
arthur72: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to arthur72 [9d 9c]
Makach777: folds
abcaabc: calls 600
magic ace37: folds
jokermc18: folds
Elektrik59ru: calls 600
39 RUS_SOV: folds
fisherfis692: calls 600
JIM.LAHEY747: folds
arthur72: raises 7526 to 8126 and is all-in
abcaabc: folds
Elektrik59ru: raises 1399 to 9525 and is all-in
fisherfis692: folds
Uncalled bet (1399) returned to Elektrik59ru
*** FLOP *** [Ad 4h 4d]
*** TURN *** [Ad 4h 4d] 3 of clubs
*** RIVER *** [Ad 4h 4d 3c] 6 of spades
*** SHOW DOWN ***
arthur72: shows [9d 9c] (two pair, Nines and Fours)
Elektrik59ru: shows [3s 4s] (a full house, Fours full of Threes)
arthur72 said, "LOL"
Elektrik59ru collected 18202 from pot
arthur72 finished the tournament in 245th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18202 | Rake 0
Board [Ad 4h 4d 3c 6s]
Seat 1: fisherfis692 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 2: JIM.LAHEY747 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: arthur72 (big blind) showed [9d 9c] and lost with two pair, Nines and Fours
Seat 4: Makach777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: abcaabc folded before Flop
Seat 6: magic ace37 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jokermc18 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Elektrik59ru showed [3s 4s] and won (18202) with a full house, Fours full of Threes
Seat 9: 39 RUS_SOV folded before Flop (didn't bet)

All Hail Elektrik59ru Worship Worship Worship Worship

     
  4-Jan-12, 07:16   #2
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MicroMachina 

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 657
I love his isolation move. lol.

tuff 1 man! really sucks when that happens. i played a 4$ rebuy and was only 12$ invested and hours deep with my addon and a huge stack. Right before the bubble chip leader makes a bet on my BB and im holding 1010. I call and flop comes q 82. hes sb so he leads out with a pot bet. i figure he doesnt have it so i dive. he called me allin with like 20k chips more then my 80k with J2. j turn j river. the guy did say he was feeling it as i was staring in shock. the win would have gave me almost 200k in chips with the blinds and antes and chip lead in a tourny that paid 1100$ for first and 100 for 9th with 30 ish left.


     
  4-Jan-12, 09:58   #3
  0 
Chartoule 
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 1261
Hi arthur72!

Bad beat or Bad bet? Bad beat, hard bad beat, f**** bas**** bad beat.

I like the push and i don´t understand the call of the other. Well, in freerols we can see lots like this.

     
  4-Jan-12, 10:29   #4
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xdomagojx 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Croatia
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 399
2 days ago i played in GTD on HPP with first place prize 200€. On the bubble i m 2nd in chips to my right is chip leader. I m in BB and chip leader in SB: Action folds to him and he raises 3 BBs. I m holding 66 and decide to see a flop wich isnt bad when soemone is stealing your blind for 10th time in a row. Flop comes 8 5 5, He makes a continuation bet and i call thinking i ll deal with it on turn if the card is low. Turn shows 4 he raises i shove all-in and guy calls holding K-9. River is K and i m out.

These bad beats are pretty standard in every tournament for me (for everyone i guess). But i figured i shouldnt involve in battle with such agressive donk anyways. But i go for first place every time so i cant help myself. Last month i had so much similar situations on the bubble that i lost count on them. But once luck is on my side i m 2nd minimum.

p.s. To say how important sometimes is to hold your chips instead of playing your cards i ll describe one more situation.

I m ITM 18th people left in tournament and i m chip leader with 78 000 chips. 2nd guy has 25k. I decided to preserve my stack rather than involve in big pots that can cost me more than i can gain. But one guy on the table (had around 18 k in chips) starts going all-in 4 hands in a row. Everyone folds. 5th hand i m in BB holding A-10 and decide i ll call. He had A-Q and i double him up. He continues to go all-in 2 more hands. 2 hands later i get dealt KK and i call him. He holds 10-10 and i m all happy face saying f... you donk infornt of laptop. Right on flop i see a 10 and i m sick to my stomach. I was steaming like never before left with 4k chips. Ofc hand after it went all in and busted... When you look at the whole situation you can realize it s my own fault. One bad call, one unlucky situation and i ve gone from DOMINATION to being biggest donk in the tournament.

Hope it helps you see a bigger picture. Cheers. Blink

     
  4-Jan-12, 10:36   #5
  0 
MicroMachina 

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 657
Posted by xdomagojx:
2 days ago i played in GTD on HPP with first place prize 200�. On the bubble i m 2nd in chips to my right is chip leader. I m in BB and chip leader in SB: Action folds to him and he raises 3 BBs. I m holding 66 and decide to see a flop wich isnt bad when soemone is stealing your blind for 10th time in a row. Flop comes 8 5 5, He makes a continuation bet and i call thinking i ll deal with it on turn if the card is low. Turn shows 4 he raises i shove all-in and guy calls holding K-9. River is K and i m out.

These bad beats are pretty standard in every tournament for me (for everyone i guess). But i figured i shouldnt involve in battle with such agressive donk anyways. But i go for first place every time so i cant help myself. Last month i had so much similar situations on the bubble that i lost count on them. But once luck is on my side i m 2nd minimum.

p.s. To say how important sometimes is to hold your chips instead of playing your cards i ll describe one more situation.

I m ITM 18th people left in tournament and i m chip leader with 78 000 chips. 2nd guy has 25k. I decided to preserve my stack rather than involve in big pots that can cost me more than i can gain. But one guy on the table (had around 18 k in chips) starts going all-in 4 hands in a row. Everyone folds. 5th hand i m in BB holding A-10 and decide i ll call. He had A-Q and i double him up. He continues to go all-in 2 more hands. 2 hands later i get dealt KK and i call him. He holds 10-10 and i m all happy face saying f... you donk infornt of laptop. Right on flop i see a 10 and i m sick to my stomach. I was steaming like never before left with 4k chips. Ofc hand after it went all in and busted... When you look at the whole situation you can realize it s my own fault. One bad call, one unlucky situation and i ve gone from DOMINATION to being biggest donk in the tournament.

Hope it helps you see a bigger picture. Cheers. Blink


so so true.

     
  4-Jan-12, 10:46   #6
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arthur72 

Joined: Mar '09
Location: Australia
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 325
PokerStars Game #73259257150: Tournament #492601498, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2012/01/04 21:16:28 AEST [2012/01/04 5:16:28 ET]
Table '492601498 60' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: vavas123 (1455 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: waftynz (1450 in chips)
Seat 3: Kolya27 (1135 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Almat_Almat (1395 in chips)
Seat 5: mavka88 (2080 in chips)
Seat 6: joza900 (4840 in chips)
Seat 7: DEN4331 (1280 in chips)
Seat 8: arthur72 (1365 in chips)
Seat 9: Roman Kutko (10920 in chips)
DEN4331: posts small blind 50
arthur72: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to arthur72 [Jc Ad]
Almat_Almat said, " Blink))))"
Kolya27 has returned
Roman Kutko: calls 100
vavas123: folds
waftynz: folds
Kolya27: calls 100
Almat_Almat: calls 100
mavka88 has timed out
mavka88: folds
mavka88 is sitting out
joza900: folds
mavka88 has returned
DEN4331: calls 50
arthur72: raises 1265 to 1365 and is all-in
Roman Kutko: folds
Kolya27: folds
Almat_Almat: raises 30 to 1395 and is all-in
DEN4331: folds
Uncalled bet (30) returned to Almat_Almat
*** FLOP *** [Th 9s 4c]
*** TURN *** [Th 9s 4c] 7 of diamonds
*** RIVER *** [Th 9s 4c 7d] 6 of clubs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
arthur72: shows [Jc Ad] (high card Ace)
Almat_Almat: shows [Kh Tc] (a pair of Tens)
Almat_Almat collected 3030 from pot
arthur72 finished the tournament in 1870th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3030 | Rake 0
Board [Th 9s 4c 7d 6c]
Seat 1: vavas123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: waftynz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Kolya27 folded before Flop
Seat 4: Almat_Almat showed [Kh Tc] and won (3030) with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: mavka88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: joza900 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: DEN4331 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: arthur72 (big blind) showed [Jc Ad] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 9: Roman Kutko folded before Flop

AGAIN OMG I SEE a pattern here lolol No pushing on the BB because exactly as before but different player hmmmm I wonder....LOL Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  4-Jan-12, 11:28   #7
  0 
mahdrof 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Canada
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 2367
Unlucky there with the guy calling 3s4s, even in the freerolls I have seen some pretty good poker being played once you start to get close to the final table. People can dismiss it by saying that you have to expect that when playing freerolls, yet I can't imagine pulling his move after investing probably a couple of hours of time to reach that point. Unlucky.

     
  4-Jan-12, 15:46   #8
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 6229
But it was soooted. Blink

Donk got lucky wis his hand.

Limp with just 15BB Aww crap!

And to top that, call an all-in for nearly all his chips with 43s Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  4-Jan-12, 19:52   #9
  0 
shaded 

Joined: Dec '09
Location: Serbia and Montenegro
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 279
I lost yesterday when big stack shoved 2 3 suited so yea it happens but the blinds were big and my stack was like 1/8th of his so he was actually doing the right thing...

     
  4-Jan-12, 20:07   #10
  0 
arsenej1 

Joined: Mar '09
Location: Canada
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 3016
i think it was just bad luck...i dont understand why buddy called close to the bubble with 34s but wasnt me playing. i just know alotta ppl would call him a donk for playing it but if everyone only played 88-AA 10-A J-A Q-A K-A poker would get pretty boring. i like for switch it up and love hands like 3-4 6-7 8-9 but would NEVER put my stack in close to the bubble with them. unless there was 5-6 callers and i had everyone dominated i may call to see how she goes. anyways bad luck good luck next time.

     
  4-Jan-12, 20:32   #11
  0 
retribution 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Canada
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 1490
Good play on your part, 99 easy shove. Seriously, what the hell was that guy thinking, "isolating" with 34s. Brain dead donks like that make me want to bang my head against a wall until I pass out.

Second scenario, with K10, it's really horrible too. But then again, no offense, but open shipping 16bb with AJo MP with 3 limpters isn't that great of a play either. I could see it being viable if you know for a fact the table is super passive and is capable of laying down a hand after limping, but given 90% of the time, SOMEONE is going to call you, you have to re-asses your plan.


     
  7-Jan-12, 17:29   #12
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1476
Yeah, when in bad luck , hard to act correctly . sometimes we got it. 43s call cos instinct Big Smile Big Smile we always need it

     
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