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  27-Jan-12, 05:25   #1
:O MIT Poker BOTS!!! 0 
jessthehuman 

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http://www.mitpokerbots.com/

Check it out. MIT holding a poker-bot challenge.. I'll be keen to follow this, be pretty interested in watching the game too, I hope they record it. I'd love to see the source code released too, except obviously that would be incredibly irresponsible so I'm pretty sure they won't Sad

     
  27-Jan-12, 05:31   #2
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GomerAssassi 
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this is not good for online poker!!! I think we have enough donkeys, fish and existing bots out there to worry about.

Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  27-Jan-12, 07:20   #3
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SuperNoob 

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surely would be interesting one, maybe they can come up with a league only for bots to be played weekly/monthly.
dont think they gonna release the code though.

     
  27-Jan-12, 07:30   #4
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magatt966 

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Thx for the info Jess
I'm gonna join

PS: agree with Gomer Thumbs Up

Attached Imagespokerbot.jpg

     
  27-Jan-12, 08:21   #5
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retribution 

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Oi, I seriously can't believe ANYONE would think this is a good idea. It's crap like this that is killing the online poker world. Serious, scandal after scandal is NOT good for the industry. Perhaps with regulation, this kind of activity will be hunted down and quickly thwarted.

Also, this just gives rigtards more ammo for their argument. Seriously, god it makes me sick how some people let their own personal greed ruin a good thing for everyone else.

     
  27-Jan-12, 09:35   #6
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jessthehuman 

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Posted by SuperNoob:
maybe they can come up with a league only for bots to be played weekly/monthly.



I would seriously love to see that.. I would get involved for sure - I love problem solving based programming. I can never think of programming projects to get involved with..But I would jump on board 100% if they ran a league, I reckon I would enjoy that far more than actually playing poker.. infinitely more challenging, that's for sure.

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Posted by retribution:
Perhaps with regulation, this kind of activity will be hunted down and quickly thwarted.


I honestly cannot imagine a single piece of legislation that would allow them to shut this down. They're not even gambling. They're simply programming AI's to play a game. It's not like they would be running them on an official poker site and certainly not against humans.

On what grounds could this possibly be "thwarted" ?

Personally - I am all for it, I think it's fascinating.

Edited by jessthehuman (Friday, January 27, 2012 @ 09:43 GMT)


     
  27-Jan-12, 10:12   #7
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jbrooksie 

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I'm with Jess on this, it will be particularly fascinating to watch them adapt to each others changing play.

Who knows, we might even learn something!

     
  27-Jan-12, 11:17   #8
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Davoodoo 

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This will really show once and for all if pokerbots can beat top poker players ! This is really good ! Chess is still played worldwide just because the computer can beat a top playe anyday Smile

     
  27-Jan-12, 12:03   #9
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Fakiry 

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All this ultra-special-increased-brain-usage geeks are studying just to ruin the who-cares-about-study-lets-play-poker people? At least, let someone tell them they can win millions selling this tools for a low price to reach a big amount of clients worldwide and, instead of playing against each other, we will pass the future buying new bots and sit watching them playing for us, to see who has the best bot!

     
  27-Jan-12, 12:22   #10
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B1gfoot 

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Love the MIT guys, watch a fair few vids from U-Tube, I just pretend to understand.
The only downside to this comp is they will first play bots individually then they will play each other, so no human Vs bot.
But wow what a course, Id bet we have another MIT WSOP win in the wings, can't play BJ so lets hit NLHE

     
  27-Jan-12, 12:46   #11
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DaCapo71 
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I´m sure it giges not so many winning bots if the people believe. And the most of them are not bots, they are massgrinder with a lot of mistakes in their game. Don´t forget: Robocop isn´t a bot, he is a police officer Big Smile

     
  27-Jan-12, 13:34   #12
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marqis 

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With chess it's almost impossible to beat the best computer programs. But chess is a very complicated game, not at all like poker. I wonder if computers have less of an advantage in poker, because playing a purely mathematical game is not a winning strategy in poker.

It is hard to make a computer program unpredictable, and even harder for it to analyse and predict the humans it's playing (I imagine this complication doesn't come up as much with chess).

As of yet haven't heard of unbeatable poker bots like you have in chess...

     
  27-Jan-12, 15:36   #13
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Serpang 
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I don't understand this program, it's competition we play poker against bot and compare with another player or we create program ( bot ) to play poker. If we play against bot , I think is good, almost similiar duplicate bridge. See duplicate poker at IMSA ( International Mind Sport Association ).

If they success will be great develop poker game

     
  27-Jan-12, 18:29   #14
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Mober 
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I can understand the challenge for all those involved in computer programming
and i believe while i have nothing to do with that, that such a competition will
be awesome, but on the other hand it only takes just one of the participants to implement the source
code as you say in a poker site, and then of course you know the rest Smile

     
  27-Jan-12, 18:30   #15
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  27-Jan-12, 18:40   #16
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  27-Jan-12, 19:53   #17
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  27-Jan-12, 20:23   #18
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mahdrof 

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Posted by jessthehuman:
I would seriously love to see that.. I would get involved for sure - I love problem solving based programming. I can never think of programming projects to get involved with..But I would jump on board 100% if they ran a league, I reckon I would enjoy that far more than actually playing poker.. infinitely more challenging, that's for sure.


As somebody who did programming back in the old days, when men were men and computers were 64k like the Apple IIE Blink I have thought about the challenges posed by creating a winning bot too (I love challenges). Not that I have time to do this, but I certainly appreciate how someone like you would see this as a very interesting goal to achieve.

     
  27-Jan-12, 22:08   #19
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jessthehuman 

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Posted by mahdrof:when men were men and computers were...
.



were WEAK!

Not like the future - where men will be men and computers will be super men.

     
  28-Jan-12, 01:51   #20
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MicroMachina 

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so wait. am i gonna have to hear gay references about the MIT poker bot team instead of gay mit black jack references?

     
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