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  31-Jan-12, 10:54   #1
Poker bot at gutshot 0 
Thawijn 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Netherlands
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 79
Hi mobster,

Im playing 5$ Double up *4 Super turbo's. Now there is always a gut named "rubykon" who plays every single game. The strange thing is : He dont talks back, he only folds or allin(no 3 bet or something) and when there is a sitouter next to him and he is the small blind and the sitouter is the big blind he doesnt even raise but he folds!
And i played with him before i went to bed, and this morning he was still playing:O

Is this possible a bot?

     
  31-Jan-12, 11:39   #2
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 4873
maybe a bot or just might be a player playing 10+ tables Confused
just checked his stats, he's in top 10 of HU leaderboard for 2011 2-5$, unlikely he's a bot.

if u wanna be sure u can ask support but i dnt think anything gonna come out of it

     
  31-Jan-12, 12:49   #3
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
I doubt he's a bot - not many people do talk back and almost no one who is grinding lots of tables talks back.. If he is just pushing/folding that would indicate it is incredibly unlikely he is a bot - since they can calculate bet-sizing incredibly fast. Pushing/folding would far more likely lean towards somebody playing too many tables and making their own decision a lot easier by just push/fold every hand.

     
  31-Jan-12, 14:30   #4
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4764
Or a group of people playing all with the same account… folding small blind with big blind sitting out is really strange: doing that once I would think he would be afraid of the sit out player being trying to catch someone doing all-in, now doing that always… its weird. But I cant help you more than this, many things have been said about bots and I have already faced so many players with awkward ways of playing they I think I will never be able to say if I am playing against one or not.

     
  31-Jan-12, 16:56   #5
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byng0 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Canada
Age: 65 (M)
Posts: 216
Try using a magnet.

Smile Big Smile Cool

     
  31-Jan-12, 16:59   #6
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Darth_bane 
Joined: Oct '11
Location: Belgium
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 138
could be a bot,could just be a poker addict that plays like a dumba$$

     
  31-Jan-12, 17:17   #7
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FloX 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Lithuania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 28
Don't think that's a bot.
There are few players in other sites who plays exactly like that, for example Poker770.

From the first site, they look like just some dumb asses, but when you think of it more, it's not that stupid play. They only go all in with good cards and after few shots like that other players just think the push everything without having good cards. Not a bad way to catch donks too who just think they're lucky.
Or, they just don't give a dam about the money they loose.

     
  31-Jan-12, 18:28   #8
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
If you really think that player is a bot than feel free to contact the support and i'm sure they'll make a check...

Still, i heard on other forums people that are doing this type of things(play) lol

     
  31-Jan-12, 18:35   #9
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gazza2009 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 188
Posted by jessthehuman:
I doubt he's a bot - not many people do talk back and almost no one who is grinding lots of tables talks back.. If he is just pushing/folding that would indicate it is incredibly unlikely he is a bot - since they can calculate bet-sizing incredibly fast. Pushing/folding would far more likely lean towards somebody playing too many tables and making their own decision a lot easier by just push/fold every hand.



Yes think of it that way if you were playing 10 table at the same time could you find the time to chat back in the chat box because i no i can not do it Blink

In fact i struggle to play 6 table with no chat lol

     
  31-Jan-12, 19:45   #10
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cluuuur 
Joined: Feb '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (F)
Posts: 20
he is not a bot, just a mass multi tabler. i have played against him in over a 1000 DoN's

     
  31-Jan-12, 20:46   #11
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DaCapo71 
Joined: Aug '10
Location: Germany
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 1712
Gutshot is a part of the iPoker Network, so the "Bot" is not only there. But don´t forget, that some players are multitable players and some of them playing a abc-poker style.

     
  31-Jan-12, 20:52   #12
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10039
Since so many players here say its not a bot and others saying that they have played with him before
probably he is not.
But dont forget we are talking about iPoker here, which is the paradise for botters .

When multitabling i have folded too hands to sit outs cause didnt have the time to check whos in and whos not Smile

     
  1-Feb-12, 09:57   #13
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Chartoule 
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 1261
Hi guys!!

Seems a player who plays lots and lots of tables (when someone fold the SB vs a BB sitout = multitables).
Lately the push-or fold strategy during all the SnG is a strategy that goes up. I don´t know why..

     
  1-Feb-12, 15:41   #14
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AHMED000 
Joined: Jan '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 11
i played at gutshot poker there is always one player who has the most money and wins biggerpots when u play against him or should i say it u would go all say for example u got flush draw the guy has two 77 he will hit 7 and onother on the river so u get intised into going all in because seem like u got the best hand but he will always have a better hand lost. funny tings happens at da i poker sites all u can do is laugh. Aww crap! Angry Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  1-Feb-12, 17:37   #15
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BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 1854
lol how is this even a thread..
gutshot is on the ipoker network,it's well spread that the network is full of bots..if you play there and hate to play bots so much then just lol...
Regardless of that fact,the fact he's playing every game proves nothing. It's very easy to play ~20 tables in a relaxing manner if you are able to make decisions quick and are fast @ clicking/moving mouse (especially if you have a video-game backround,for me thats the case). That you're too busy to chat or dont feel like chatting while playing like this is obvious tho

     
  2-Feb-12, 16:00   #16
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8643
here we go again- playing online you can never be sure what are you up against- dudes with super accounts, group of colluders, bots, just weird idiots- the fauna is really varied and to be fair not a very attractive one- just play with the money you are not afraid to lose and you will be fine imho Agree

     
  3-Feb-12, 00:41   #17
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initiator 
Joined: Nov '08
Location: Germany
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 134
Thats a multitable player who goes allin with a certane range.

     
  3-Feb-12, 13:39   #18
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mahdrof 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Canada
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 2367
Posted by pochui:
here we go again- playing online you can never be sure what are you up against- dudes with super accounts, group of colluders, bots, just weird idiots- the fauna is really varied and to be fair not a very attractive one- just play with the money you are not afraid to lose and you will be fine imho Agree

I agree with you on this pochui. I think I have probably been up against poker bots in the past, especially when a lot of sites had cash tables with a minimum buy-in of 20 big blinds, but they can be beat. My biggeest concern is collusion at the tables, but this is something I consider to be my responsibility to avoid. There are some players that when they are at the same cash table, or have registered for the same SNG, I simply avoid. You have to hope that the poker sites are trying to sniff out these guys, but the best thing is to not enter sit at the table if it doesn't feel right.

     
  3-Feb-12, 16:05   #19
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arthur72 

Joined: Mar '09
Location: Australia
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 325
Lots of bots lots of sites so what just stay ya course and play the best hands and if you get beat well that's POKER!!!! Pokerstars won't investigate this and neither will any other site as long as they make there $$$$$$$$$ that's all they care about......And if you come across him/her again then don't play in them simple.

     
  3-Feb-12, 16:28   #20
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1631
Posted by initiator:
Thats a multitable player who goes allin with a certane range.


I'm sure you are right about this. But how can this be a winning strategy? If this guy has so many tables open, he can hardly be keeping track of individual players, with anything other than software.

How does he keep from going broke? It should be clear what his range is, after a while; that knowledge alone should amount to being able to play him at a profit, shouldn't it? Only call with an even tighter range, otherwise fold...

Also, if he has a very narrow range, and everyone folds when he shoves, how can he pay for the binds and the rake?

If you know this about him, maybe you can even look for him, and play at the tables he is playing...?

     
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