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  11-Feb-12, 13:23   #1
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sadamman 

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was playing a 6 max $1.10 NLHE MTT on pokerstars, 1st hand got a8 off in the hijack, no1 raised so i called. 4 people in the hand, flop came down a8a, every1 checked 2 me an i was in the best position so i checked, turn came 9, again no1 bet so i checked tryin 2 slowplay because of position, river brought a q, cant remember which 1s but there was a potential heart flush, i got raised 120 blinds where 20/40 i forgot to mention, so i reraised to 480, he reraised back 1000, so i went all in, and he had a9 Thumbs Down Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

Edited by sadamman (Saturday, February 11, 2012 @ 13:58 GMT)


     
  11-Feb-12, 13:38   #2
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by sadamman:
was playing a 6 max $1.10 NLHE MTT on pokerstars, 1st hand got a8 off in the hijack, no1 raised so i called. 4 people in the hand, flop came down a88, every1 checked 2 me an i was in the best position so i checked, turn came 9, again no1 bet so i checked tryin 2 slowplay because of position, river brought a q, cant remember which 1s but there was a potential heart flush, i got raised 120 blinds where 20/40 i forgot to mention, so i reraised to 480, he reraised back 1000, so i went all in, and he had a9 Thumbs Down Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

i think you should sue the site, if you lost that hand with full house vs two pair

     
  11-Feb-12, 13:55   #3
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sadamman 

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sorry my mistake, the flop actually came down a8a, will edit that now, he also had a full house but a better one.

     
  11-Feb-12, 15:12   #4
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SuperNoob 

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i think ur mistake in the hand was
- u didnt raise preflop
- u didnt bet on flop/turn
- and then u got too aggressive after river

not saying you wudnt hav lost this hand other way but cud save you few $ in future.
slowplaying is good but against aggressive players not who wait for monsters to hit before committing their chips.

     
  11-Feb-12, 15:13   #5
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mishu2009 
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it happens...rarely but it happens...i lost once with AA against 55 like this...on the flop an A and nothing else for drawing flush or straight...ha made all in and off course i called...so the turn and the river was 5 and 5....but i won at the same too..i had 9 and 5, was BB so i cheched, the flop cames K 9 5 , he checked so i made a small bet, he raise, and i raised all in...he had KK, but the turn and the river were 5 and 5...so it happens
Poker software are made to be a big pot for they can make a big profit

     
  11-Feb-12, 15:16   #6
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Serpang 
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I agree with your play, lost by bad luck Sad what can we do when happen ? just register to another one next few hour and hope luck changes Tongue Tongue . have any idea ? Poker really complicated Worship Worship

     
  11-Feb-12, 16:03   #7
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marqis 

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Your poll is missing an option:

- The outcome was inevitable.

That's what I would have voted for... The hand played itself, after the flop. Sure lots of people would have played it slightly different, but I can't imaging many having a different outcome.

Another option would have been:

- fold before the flop.

You can easily fold A8o when early position raises, and you are playing tight. With the blinds that small, you can wait for better hands...

     
  11-Feb-12, 16:05   #8
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sadamman 

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Posted by SuperNoob:
i think ur mistake in the hand was
- u didnt raise preflop
- u didnt bet on flop/turn
- and then u got too aggressive after river

not saying you wudnt hav lost this hand other way but cud save you few $ in future.
slowplaying is good but against aggressive players not who wait for monsters to hit before committing their chips.


I agree with everythin execpt ur 1st point, so u'd raise wit a8 off?

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Posted by marqis:
Your poll is missing an option:

- The outcome was inevitable.

That's what I would have voted for... The hand played itself, after the flop. Sure lots of people would have played it slightly different, but I can't imaging many having a different outcome.

Another option would have been:

- fold before the flop.

You can easily fold A8o when early position raises, and you are playing tight. With the blinds that small, you can wait for better hands...


I agree an i wudda folded to a raise but no1 raised preflop.

     
  11-Feb-12, 16:38   #9
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marqis 

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Posted by sadamman:
I agree an i wudda folded to a raise but no1 raised preflop.


Lol... I took "no1" as a term describing the under the gun position ("number one" Blink, instead of "no one"... I wondered why you did not mention, how much he raised by... Smile

     
  11-Feb-12, 17:06   #10
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sadamman 

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sorry i'm going to have to stop being lazy and spell correctly aren't i, i can do it believe it or not lol

     
  11-Feb-12, 18:02   #11
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by sadamman:
I agree with everythin execpt ur 1st point, so u'd raise wit a8 off?

depending on opponents i fold/raise, limping is not a gud idea imo

     
  11-Feb-12, 21:00   #12
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Greenmohave 

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I would have slowed played the hand myself and ended up getting the same results you did. Just because the chance for the other player to hit a larger boat (fullhouse) was low although I'm not sure of the actual stats on it. If it happens again, and it will if you play often I'd play it the same.
Good Luck to All!

     
  11-Feb-12, 21:54   #13
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retribution 

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Posted by sadamman:
was playing a 6 max $1.10 NLHE MTT on pokerstars, 1st hand got a8 off in the hijack, no1 raised so i called. 4 people in the hand


This is the problem right here. People LOVE to limp weak aces, and that's what always seems to get them in trouble. Especially considering this is 6 max, you really need to widen your raising range, especially in the Highjack. Limping creates small pots and invites free chasers.

The reason raggy aces are so bad, is because people have a really hard problem laying down top pair. Say the board had come something like AQ6 or A109, how do you think you would have played it differently?

It sucks the flop hit the way it did, because given the action pre and the fact there are 2 aces on board, it's highly unlikely someone is going to have the other ace, but instead of focusing on how crappy it is you lost the hand, look at why you got yourself into that spot in the first place.

     
  11-Feb-12, 22:50   #14
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rbdflyboy 

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Awhile back I flopped a set of 8's and the board paired on the turn. I bet hard into the pot and was called by one player. River blanked so I shove and get called...The flop had a 9 and opponent had a set of 9's for the win. FH over FH does happen from time to time. As far as Axo goes...especially early on I'l stay with A2o-A5o and AKo-A10o depending on position, the rest goes in the muck. Lost too many pots and created too many difficult spots playing the hands I now muck. Heads up,short handed, and ITM are a different story.

     
  12-Feb-12, 03:35   #15
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doaga 
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Fail Sleepy

     
  12-Feb-12, 17:10   #16
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ElemPoker44 

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What you did wrong is plain simple u did not raise before or after flop to at least get hand ranges and then ure opponent gets to suck out for free his outer even though he was slowplaying too

     
  13-Feb-12, 23:38   #17
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harsova 
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Be more aggressive

     
  14-Feb-12, 13:26   #18
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pokkerimees 
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Dont limp in.
Thats all i can say, because after flop i dont see how you could get out of the hand. Nothing to do, this kind of things just happens.
My worst case was in potlimit 5 card draw. Got QQQ to start, raise , one caller. I change 2 he changes 3. I got FH with QQQ and he got FH with KKK. And we managed to get all in.

     
  19-Feb-12, 21:02   #19
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kwasac 
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you could possible lost less chips if you didnt re-raise it, but in that time you have no idea what your opponent have, so you tried to get some more chips on a very strong hand, but you didnt have luck. Even if you bet on flop, he can re-raise you, which will brought you to all in, and if he just call you there, a nine on turn is not a card which can scared you, only A 9 is the stronger hand, so you bet again, he will re-raise you, you are all in... and so on... Very tough to avoid unlucky hands like this. Confused

     
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