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  15-Feb-12, 09:00   #1
Do the rebuy and the add ons belong to the prize money 0 
issi1976 

Joined: Jan '12
Location: Netherlands
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HELLO all i wanted to ask something about rebuys and add ons when i play at pokerstars you can rebuy and take add on and the money go's in the prize pot now i was playing at an other site and i saw that the money was going into there pockets and the prize money was the whole tournament the same is there any difference between sites because this was the first time i saw it and that i played a tournament where the rebuys and add ons did not go into the prize pot money .

     
  15-Feb-12, 09:47   #2
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tn111978 
Joined: Feb '12
Location: Germany
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I never played on a site where the rebuy and the addon weren't added to the prize money. But if you play a rebuy/addon tournament with a guranteed prize pool it is possible that the rebuy/addon don't raise the prize money. Buy-in + rebuy + addon have to exceed the guranteed prize money to raise it.

     
  15-Feb-12, 09:58   #3
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issi1976 

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well thats the anwser i was looking for thank you for your reply tn111978 Thumbs Up now i understand what the problem was Big Smile

     
  15-Feb-12, 12:33   #4
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
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Posted by tn111978:
Buy-in + rebuy + addon have to exceed the guranteed prize money to raise it.



THIS

Same thing I was going to say. I can assure you that's the ONLY reason it wouldn't raise the prizepool. No site would be brazen enough to just pocket the rebuy/addon money - it would be such a hugely -EV game that no one would ever play it.

     
  15-Feb-12, 12:56   #5
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
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Of course yes, that’s what makes it even more interesting than already is. Imagine a $100 guaranteed with re-buys of $1 and a field of 400, the prize will easily get $150 or $200 just because of the rebuys and add ons. I never heard of something like you just described. For instance, yesterday I played a MTT with points as buy-in and with rebuys and the prize was always increasing.

     
  15-Feb-12, 13:01   #6
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elfmafia 

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some of the smaller sites don't count them towards to the prize pool but most if not all of the bigger sites do

     
  15-Feb-12, 13:07   #7
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kelleners 
Joined: Jan '12
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yeah issi is right. On pokerstars they make a guaranteed pot. But the pot is almost every time more then the guaranteed, so pokerstars isnt adding mony to it.

     
  15-Feb-12, 14:39   #8
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issi1976 

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yes okay fakiry i understand i already understand it the first time when tn111978 did a reply i didn't know that i am new at the poker world and this was the first time i saw that the money from rebuys and add ons did not go in the prize pot because they didn't exceed the guranteed prize money.



BUT the prize money wasn't that high so it would be better if they give it to us all Big Smile




thank you all for your reply Blink

     
  15-Feb-12, 15:21   #9
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xdomagojx 

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Posted by elfmafia:
some of the smaller sites don't count them towards to the prize pool but most if not all of the bigger sites do


I'm pretty sure all the sites count it. Just that most sites are rly small and cant exceed GTD amount.

     
  15-Feb-12, 19:25   #10
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
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Indeed, i heard of smaller sites where these add ons/rebuys don't matter but on pokerstars and also on full tilt poker they do Smile

I actually saw a very good strategy video about this kind of mtt's, i mean it learned you when to stop to rebuy on such an tournament.

     
  15-Feb-12, 19:43   #11
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initiator 
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My friends made alot of money winning such tournaments.... 10 euro rebuy they won 10k

     
  15-Feb-12, 19:52   #12
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10016
Never got much into it and i have played rebuys in the past without seeing the prize going
up and just thought that site is taking the money.
And i found this normal cause there were many guarantees that had an actually loss from the buy ins.
Not to far from the real reasoning. Smile
Something new also learned today Smile

     
  15-Feb-12, 19:52   #13
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doaga 
Joined: Jun '11
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I hate re-buy Aww crap!

     
  15-Feb-12, 23:02   #14
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
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Posted by elfmafia:
some of the smaller sites don't count them towards to the prize pool but most if not all of the bigger sites do


Can you actually name a smaller site that does this? Because I don't believe you.

     
  16-Feb-12, 02:15   #15
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bokyaw 
Joined: Jan '10
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by elfmafia:
some of the smaller sites don't count them towards to the prize pool but most if not all of the bigger sites do


Can you actually name a smaller site that does this? Because I don't believe you.


I think he's refering to those sites that offers a guaranteed prize but fell short of registered players Big Smile

     
  16-Feb-12, 03:55   #16
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jessthehuman 

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Posted by bokyaw:
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by elfmafia:
some of the smaller sites don't count them towards to the prize pool but most if not all of the bigger sites do


Can you actually name a smaller site that does this? Because I don't believe you.


I think he's refering to those sites that offers a guaranteed prize but fell short of registered players Big Smile


So do I, but I don't think he realises it.

     
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