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  21-Feb-12, 05:22   #1
Kingdom of Poker site. 0 
OMGurBAD 

Joined: May '11
Location: New Zealand
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 12
We'll, i decided to take up the oppourtunity of trying out this site for free with the bonus BRM are offering and i have to say that as much as i appreciate the offer BRM are giving us, the site itself is a major disappointment in my opinion.

There are absolutely 0 (yes thats right NONE) tournaments at any buy-in level apart from the 3x freerolls they run each day $5, $10 and $15 prize pools.

In other words, if you want to play anything other than cash games on this site, you currently are completly out of luck.

I used my bonus on the cash tables and was able to make abit of a profit so, i decided to check out the withdrawl options (i'm a tournament player and playing cash tables all day isn't my fancy).

I couldn't believe my eyes when i saw there we're only 3 options for withdrawls ( 2 online wallets and wire transfer) and then there was the minimum amount of $5k. Yes, thats right $5000 for a wire transfer, which is what i would have to do because the online wallets aren't ones i use and my bank has informed me that one of those online wallets is known for problems with fraud.

After seeing all this, along with the fact there are hardly any players online (probably because there are no tournaments, which would bring alot of players to the site etc...), i've decided i'm wasting my time there.

I just don't see the point of grinding on a site that is keen to get your money through deposits but, isn't keen to give it back (in fact makes it near impossible for the average low-stakes player).

I think the only reason i would ever use the site now, is if i wanted some extra cash game practice for free with the BR i now have on there (that is, if theres anyone there to play against of course! lol).

Just thought i'd let the BRM community know of my findings.

Best wishes on and off the felts...




     
  21-Feb-12, 13:28   #2
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4764
I see. Looks like some of the last NDB offers from BRM have all the same problem. But I think that is perfectly normal, and this promos are done to fight against that. And sites like BRM are used to do that the best way. Because BRM gathers a lot of poker players. If a new site comes with a promo that gives everyone the chance to enter the site with money for free, the best for them is if we all enter it at the same time. That way, if they hadn’t any players, now they have BRM players, and we are a lot. If we all enter at the same time, it would be a great joy for the poker site. The problem is that we don’t all take the bonus at the same time, we don’t all go there for playing at the same time, and things tend to get difficult. But if we use BRM to schedule some tourneys there, to see the best hour/day to do it, that way it will work. And if we write about it on the forum, it will attract the more distracted mobsters. But we have to do it, we have to call others. By the way, feel free to think of a day to do it, and count me in to help you spread the word! That is the only way for people to move there every now and then.

     
  21-Feb-12, 15:39   #3
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starbay 

Joined: Feb '11
Location: Ireland
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 476
i also took that bonus Confused but i have not played there for a few weeks mainly for the same problems as OP ,way too little traffic and only cash games Thumbs Down maybe in the future the traffic might pick up and i might go back

     
  21-Feb-12, 16:59   #4
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1477
That site is very strange, they should spent a lot of money to create web site but their services is very poor Disagree . Strange !!! Are they no have staff with marketing skill ? Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile so many site to learn for them but after few month still poor. Sad Sad How can they get member if every member very disappointed Question Question Question

     
  21-Feb-12, 17:15   #5
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mishu2009 
Joined: Jan '12
Location: Romania
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 74
i really think that this site is at start poker, but i see no future for him. All the site from the start had at least 10 times more people online once, in the first weeks. This site ir already working for i think 2 months but still nothing...and with the withdraw at 5000$ nothing to say just that this site dont want to wthdraw from them, so should be some problems there.

     
  21-Feb-12, 17:20   #6
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8638
yep nice review of the site- probably the only thing that can lure to such a poker room (if antivirus software has nothing against it) would be the free cash- i just wonder, has anyone made their own deposits into this site- and if so, why? is it because the adrenaline- will i get my money back or not?

     
  21-Feb-12, 19:48   #7
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
The software is pretty good if you asme, it actually has some common things f the full tilt poker software but it works slower overall...

Of course the big problem is the lack of poker traffic, i realize that for sng/mtt players it's a big problem.

     
  21-Feb-12, 20:00   #8
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OMGurBAD 

Joined: May '11
Location: New Zealand
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 12
Posted by Macubaas:
Of course the big problem is the lack of poker traffic, i realize that for sng/mtt players it's a big problem.


The problem for SNG/MTT players isn't just traffic based...it's the fact that there AREN'T ANY SNG's or MTT's! LOL. Not 1 scheduled at any buy-in level, as i stated in my original post.

Even if there we're some scheduled, it's going to take some big scores and many of them if anyone is ever going to have enough of a BR to be able to meet the withdrawl requirements.




     
  21-Feb-12, 22:13   #9
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aatje 
Joined: Feb '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 59 (F)
Posts: 46
Kingdom of SCAM

     
  22-Feb-12, 16:07   #10
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KingdomRep 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Costa Rica
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 18
No poker website is built in a day. We share many of your frustrations but please understand we are doing the best we can.

We have had a number of tables going at one time. The problem is when a site is starting out we are more susceptible to peak hours. We're still in the soft launch phase, sharing this site and some money with your community. We plan to bring in many more players over the coming months.

We are as legitimate as they come. Our ewallets are trustable. We have Neteller. We are getting accounts with every major ewallet right now. Your money is safe with us, and we've processed many withdrawals since the site's inception.

     
  22-Feb-12, 19:57   #11
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
I actually didn't checked that out since i'm a cash game player so i only was checking the cash games Smile

Still, it's nice to see that the site has a rep here on the bankrollmob forums, thats definately a plus Thumbs Up

     
  22-Feb-12, 23:19   #12
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kingfisha 
Joined: Mar '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 83
Posted by KingdomRep:
No poker website is built in a day. We share many of your frustrations but please understand we are doing the best we can.

We have had a number of tables going at one time. The problem is when a site is starting out we are more susceptible to peak hours. We're still in the soft launch phase, sharing this site and some money with your community. We plan to bring in many more players over the coming months.

We are as legitimate as they come. Our ewallets are trustable. We have Neteller. We are getting accounts with every major ewallet right now. Your money is safe with us, and we've processed many withdrawals since the site's inception.


If i use Neteller i will have to open a new account with them .I will be charged 1.75% to put money from my bank account onto neteller.I will then be charged 2.5 % because my bank uses £s and your site uses $.If i then want to take money off your site i will be charged again 2.5 % by neteller because i use £ and then a 7.5 euro fee to transfer my money from neteller back to my account.I did email your support asking if Paypal could be used ,and was promptly told that Paypal were prohibited from all gaming sites !!!!!! I was wondering if this is true then why do a number of large sites accept paypal as a method of depositing/withdrawing ??? It doesnt make good business sense to me to set up a new site where your customers get charged to the hilt when they deposit/withdraw.I was told that i could deposit using a bank card but i would be unable to then withdraw back to this card ! must use neteller.I have been reading up on neteller and they dont have very good reports online - Fraud and hacking are quite common ! Do you take a cut of the fees neteller charge ??? if not then why use them ??? I like your site ,even though i am terrible at cash Big Smile .Think it would be a good idea to set up a BRM only tournament with prizes/$$$$ you could have points buy in tournaments (like it says on your home page) as i have nothing to spend all my points on !!! one more little annoying thing is that when i check on the hand history it only shows me the winning hand cards,i would like to be able to check my opponents loosing showdown cards Cool Keep on working and listening and then your site will be a success


     
  23-Feb-12, 00:52   #13
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OMGurBAD 

Joined: May '11
Location: New Zealand
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 12
Posted by KingdomRep:
We are as legitimate as they come. Our ewallets are trustable. We have Neteller. We are getting accounts with every major ewallet right now. Your money is safe with us, and we've processed many withdrawals since the site's inception.


You've processed many withdrawls?! I find that hard to believe considering you hardly have any players and under the current set-up the ones you do have would have to have BR's of more than $5k each for all these withdrawls your processing to take place. You have no tournaments so, there not winning money there. How many players do you have at the highest stakes for them to play against and make there winnings so they can in turn make all these withdrawls your talking about?! Interesting you should say this because 'Neteller' is the very online e-wallet that, i was talking about earlier. I have friends who work for banks and in the credit/financial sectors and they have stated that Neteller is the worst out of all e-wallets as far as fraud and other problems goes. I have been advised to stay well clear of them and intend on doing so.

That aside, there are still many other issues i have with your site, that you have not answered.

On no other pokersite (and i play on a few, as i'm a full-time poker player) do they have minimum withdrawl limits such as the ones your advertising at $5k. The minumum to deposit AND withdrawl usually varies between $20-$50, no more.

The fact it looks like your making it easy to deposit and near impossible to withdrawl, meaning you want money coming onto the site and not going off it, automatically puts up a red flag to me and there is no way i would ever consider depositing on your site in the current state its operating.

If you want to get some traffic through your site, then i strongly suggest you listen to your customers and take there concerns on board, as without there support i don't see your site lasting the long haul in an already saturated marketplace.

Abit of honesty and transparency also wouldn't go astray.

I've only been at your site a few days and after what i've seen and heard, i already have no confidence in your site.

Of course this is just my view and opinion, take it as you will.

Edited by OMGurBAD (Thursday, February 23, 2012 @ 00:58 GMT)


     
  23-Feb-12, 13:28   #14
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kingfisha 
Joined: Mar '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 83
Have been told that minimum deposit/withdrawl is now $20 but using neteller Aww crap!
I think people should take the BRM bonus and check out the site for themselves rather than listen to lots of negative comments Blink .There is plenty of money to be had at the tables Dollar Dollar Dollar
I lost my original free $8 then won $5 on a freeroll ,my bankroll is now well into 3 figures and i am terrible at cash games Big Smile

     
  27-Feb-12, 16:19   #15
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KingdomRep 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Costa Rica
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 18
We are not making it easy to deposit and then difficult to withdraw. Yes, the majority of withdrawals are being processed through Neteller, but that has been one of the primary Ewallet options for the last five years in the poker community. Millions have used the site and been satisfied

We could have waited to launch the site till we had all our ewallets set up, but then we lose the opportunity to try out the site with your community. We are offering free money so that we can learn what we can do better through Bankroll Mob. We really appreciate your feedback.

     
  27-Feb-12, 19:59   #16
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
I know Neteller is used by many people on poker sites because they cover more ground in terms of country that are accesible to their services but european player prefer skrill Blink

The taxes and the support are superior so make sure to include it too as deposit/cashout option Smile

     
  4-Mar-12, 08:32   #17
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kingfisha 
Joined: Mar '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 83
Neteller are just great - I tried to register an account a week ago .After completing all the sign up information it sends me to a blank screen,so i try again - now it has closed my account for trying to register twice Sad
So i email them and wait for a reply.And wait,And wait.And wait.
So i look up online to see if they have a contact number - see from forum posts that i would be wasting my time as the phone is NEVER answered.
Eventually find a link that requests a call back from neteller ,GREAT i thought Big Smile
I request the call back and wait about 2 hours - Bingo the phone rings.
They explain to me my account was closed as i tried to register twice . OK Confused So iask them to send me some information so that i atleast know i have an account open with them and an account number !
1 hour later the phone rings - its neteller again Confused so i explain that they have already called !
The next day i check my emails and find a reply from my original email telling me to register an account with a new email address - THIS IS THE REASON MY ACCOUNT WAS CLOSED IN 1ST PLACE Aww crap!
Still no email with any account information or confirmation of registering ! Angry Angry Angry
Poker sites need to learn that customers dont like getting screwed around ! If you dont make it easy for them to deposit/withdraw then they will no use your site - SIMPLES Big Smile

     
  4-Mar-12, 09:20   #18
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OMGurBAD 

Joined: May '11
Location: New Zealand
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 12
Moneybookers is the only e-wallet i use and have done so without any problems for alongtime now. Deposits/withdrawls and moving money on and off pokersites happens quickly and with very low fees. By far the best e-wallet to use in my personal opinion.

I've already given up on the Kingdom of poker site and un-installed it from my computer.

Not interested in playing at a site that doesn't listen to, nor provide a good service to there customers. Never seen a poker site before that doesn't even offer a tournament to play or provide a variety of realistic options as far as cashier restrictions goes. Overall, by far the worst experience i've had with a poker site thus far.

     
  4-Mar-12, 14:17   #19
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GISA101287 
Joined: Jan '12
Location: Brazil
Age: 28 (F)
Posts: 13
Yesterday i looked also at the site and what is they most important to a poker player trafic and what i need to pay and get back to play there!!! And what i find over there was i get points? How many for every dollar fee or rake they don't let me know so i don't prefere to instal this site on my ver computer!!! And yes i know i get $8 for every 178 points i made but how much it cost me to get this point they don't tell??

Mayby in a few weeks i look again and no change is no game and i can believe they are playing very bad, and by the way Neteller is in mine opinion very good and all my friends and they friends of my husband use Neteller and there are well played members also involved!! But that Neteller is the worst off all i can't believe mayby in New Zealand? And for sure Skrill is not they most used e-wallet in Europe!!

     
  4-Mar-12, 14:32   #20
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Maiju1974 
Joined: Jan '12
Location: Belgium
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 32
Well i hope "Kingdom" can use these feedback .To make the site better and obtain more players and most important more satisfied players .
Good luck Pokerkingdom

     
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