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  26-Feb-12, 16:02   #1
AA not the best starting hand -1 
Jkkpot 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 53 (F)
Posts: 21
From now on I'm folding AA. Two tourneys today. Twice had AA as starting hand. First hand beat by 4 4, second hand beat by K 10. Bets were strong, had best hand on flop and bet BIG both times, but river card and turn card in each tourney had me beat. They had NOTHING on the flop. Talk about bad beats, or should I be claiming the site is rigged on based on subjective spurious evidence?

     
  26-Feb-12, 16:20   #2
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cambam247 

Joined: Oct '11
Location: Canada
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 115
Well My good sir Thats poker and the way she goes some time with variance.... Sad But dont fold the rockets just because U lost a couple of hands... U Were I good form and got beat It happens Gl

     
  26-Feb-12, 16:20   #3
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rbdflyboy 

Joined: Apr '11
Location: Canada
Age: 60 (M)
Posts: 1222
Welcome to the forum...check out retribution's thread...can see where this hurts more when starting up with a fresh bankroll. Hang in there the #'s are in your favor.

     
  26-Feb-12, 16:21   #4
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byng0 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Canada
Age: 65 (M)
Posts: 216
Yes recently I've had AA on opening hand and lost to a Q 10 offsuit. Had gone all in. and other runner got a straight.

There are many ideas on how to bet AA. My opinion is how much is the entry fee. Low amount = all in
Mid range ( $ 5 - 12 ) 25 % of your stack
High range ( above $ 12 ) 3-4 x the big bet, right or wrong ,that's how I play them.

Smile Big Smile Cool

     
  26-Feb-12, 16:38   #5
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marqis 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Netherlands
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 1631
Posted by rbdflyboy:
Welcome to the forum...check out retribution's thread...can see where this hurts more when starting up with a fresh bankroll. Hang in there the #'s are in your favor.

Indeed; check out that thread... Folding pocket Aces because you got beaten despite of what a great starting hand it is, is a prime example of what's commonly referred to as "tilting"...

Even just changing to playing it overly cautious, because of all the bad beats, is tilting. Don't do that...

     
  26-Feb-12, 16:44   #6
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
UL - sounds a lot like you were playing freerolls tbh - in which case,you need tough skin.. If it wasn't a freeroll, then keep playing the games as they're apparently very soft.

     
  26-Feb-12, 17:50   #7
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Jkkpot 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 53 (F)
Posts: 21
Feeling better. Just came second in a 18 seater sng where AA held up twice for me.

I don't play freerolls unless I'm feeling Russian. I stick with sng 18 seater 6 max per table. Play is usually of a different standard (apart from today's badbeats).

     
  26-Feb-12, 18:18   #8
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 1372
Nice one. Perhaps the thread would have better named AA IS NOT a guarantee.

     
  26-Feb-12, 19:03   #9
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 3361
You know I've had this happen a couple times my self. I never know how to play them (AA), I mean should I slow play or Allin. Both have their pro's and con's. Usually players call if you go Allin opening hand or else you end up winning 35 chips instead of gaining their (AA) full value. Of course winning the hand is better then losing it to a pair of 4's or K,10.
So I guess your kinda feeling the tilt which makes you feel like folding them (AA) rather then be out early. Hope things go better for you next tiem!

     
  26-Feb-12, 19:29   #10
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troyapaisa55 

Joined: Nov '11
Location: Spain
Age: 59 (F)
Posts: 7
Ok, that's your opinon, but I ask you, what hand do you want at any time. Here, playing pocker, nothing is sure, We all konow sometimes we have lost with AA, but perhaps you dont remember how many times you have won. Anyway I want AA at any time, and I will win many more hands than I will loose. That's is my opinion.

     
  26-Feb-12, 19:39   #11
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dozn01 

Joined: Sep '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 5000
ok lets play a game over 10000 hands costing us each 1 cents a hand
il have pockets aces vs which ever you think is the best starting hand,

then we wil see thats aces come out on top Blink
and is the best starting hand Smile

in the long run aces win

     
  26-Feb-12, 19:44   #12
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TheMachineQC 

Joined: Apr '10
Location: Canada
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 2126
You lose with AA twice so now you're folding it? If I would think that way, I would have to fold every single hand of poker since I lost 2 hands with every single one of them Blink

Variance + donks + no respect = more suck outs than live poker = people thinking online poker is rigged.

     
  26-Feb-12, 19:48   #13
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Jkkpot 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 53 (F)
Posts: 21
No disputing that AA is the best starting hand. I was only commenting on twice having AA as the first hand and twice losing. I do say later that I won twice with them. But don't forget, they are basically a high pair and there are better winning hands than pairs.

     
  26-Feb-12, 19:49   #14
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 1372
The real problem with pocket aces is that, on the occasions you do lose with them, there is a tendency to lose big.

     
  26-Feb-12, 19:50   #15
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
Many people consider that they get pocket aces they'll win the hand so thats why so many get so dissapointed...

You always need to remember that pocket aces are just a pair, the best pair indeed but just a pair Blink

     
  26-Feb-12, 20:02   #16
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dozn01 

Joined: Sep '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 5000
Posted by Jkkpot:
No disputing that AA is the best starting hand.



just stating what the title said in the thread and i disagreed
Blink

     
  26-Feb-12, 20:06   #17
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Jkkpot 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 53 (F)
Posts: 21
The female of the species have the right to be contrary. Confused

     
  26-Feb-12, 20:11   #18
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 51 (M)
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Posted by dozn01:
Posted by Jkkpot:
No disputing that AA is the best starting hand.



just stating what the title said in the thread and i disagreed
Blink

dozn, trust me I'm literally sitting a foot away from Jkkpot and it's best not to argue. Just nod and Worship .

     
  26-Feb-12, 20:50   #19
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dozn01 

Joined: Sep '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 5000
Posted by zeroster:
Posted by dozn01:
Posted by Jkkpot:
No disputing that AA is the best starting hand.



just stating what the title said in the thread and i disagreed
Blink

dozn, trust me I'm literally sitting a foot away from Jkkpot and it's best not to argue. Just nod and Worship .



hahahaha ok cheers for the heads up mate Smile Thumbs Up

     
  26-Feb-12, 21:37   #20
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MrBokee 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: Montenegro
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 80
AA IS the best starting hand in poker.. But, when u see the flop u must play it right.. Smile I ussualy have good folds with AA after seeing turn.. Just need feeling.. Btw
Dont marry ur cards! Smile gl

     
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