Joined: Jun '08
Location: Poland
Age: 84 (M)
Posts: 545
You can say whatever you want....after my 100 days non-stop observation I'm 100 % sure now, that PokerStars tourney software is not "kosher" and gives a big stack incredible advantage, no matter of odds, mathematic or just a simple logic. Big stack can play any 2 cards and it will break your monster paar, or set on flop . So many times I was hoping for some logic in game....now I just tested the other site - calling allins with nothing /as a big stack / and it's working in 90 % of hands. Software will help you every time, no matter what cards you hold. Suddenly I'm getting flush with 1 card or some other incredible hand...and small stack opponent with monster can only watch and cry how they rape his skill ...and that's all to finish the tournament faster.
Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4873
if conclusions (especially involving such a large data) could be made based on observation only then why would so many people waste their time studying statistics?
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Estonia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 118
like this PokerStars Tournament # arm # 76962784369: 519904980, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit-Level I (10/20)-12/03/10 20: 02: 39 EET [12/03/10 13: 02: 39 ET] Table ' 519904980 ' 9-max Seat 458 # 3 button Seat 9: v. stonkus (1500 mängumärkides) is sitting out Seat 2: urmas1983 (1330 mängumärkides) Seat 3: joro todorov (1880 mängumärkides) Seat 4: cokenol (4470 mängumärkides) Seat 5: horka4 (1500 mängumärkides) Seat 6: drvoja178 (1500 mängumärkides) is sitting out Seat 7: 20 alina (1440 mängumärkides) Seat 8: Griboedow (1440 mängumärkides) Seat 9: igrok-v-ps (1440 mängumärkides) cokenol: post to a small pimepanuse 10 horka4: post to a large pimepanuse 20 * * * * * * POCKET CARDS Shared urmas1983 [7 c 5 c] drvoja178: cancels 20: cancels alina Griboedow: pays 20 igrok-v-ps: pays 20 v. stonkus: cancels urmas1983: pays 20 joro todorov: pays 20 cokenol: pay 10 horka4: passib *** FLOP *** [Ac 9 d 6 c] cokenol: passib horka4: passib Griboedow: passib igrok-v-ps: passib urmas1983: passib joro todorov: bets 20 cokenol: pays 20 horka4: pays 20 Griboedow: pays 20 igrok-v-ps: cancels urmas1983: pays 20 *** TURN *** [Ac 9 d 6 c] [2 c] cokenol: bets 100 horka4: cancels Griboedow: pays 100 urmas1983: pays 100 joro: renounces todorov *** RIVER *** [Ac 9 d 6 c 2 c] cokenol: bets 260 Griboedow: will pay 260 urmas1983: raise 280 up to 540 cokenol: highlights in 1940 up to 2480 Griboedow: cancels urmas1983: pay 650 and is all-in Returned unpaid contribution (1290) cokenol * * * * * * SHOWDOWN cokenol: shows [6 h 2 h] (House, Deuces and kuued) urmas1983: shows [7 c 5 c] (flush, ACE high) cokenol Bank took 3160 4969. urmas1983 graduated from the tournament -time *** SUMMARY *** The entire Bank 3160 | Rake 0 Desk [Ac 9 d 6 c 2 c 2d] Seat 9: v. stonkus withdrew before the flop (not participating) Seat 2: urmas1983 revealed [7 c 5 c] and lost the suit, ACE high Seat 3: joro todorov (button) chose not to Turn Seat 4: cokenol (small pot) showed [6 h 2 h] and won (3160) House, Deuces and kuued Seat 5: horka4 (a large pot) chose not to Turn Seat 6: drvoja178, withdrew before the flop (not participating) Seat 7: 20 alina withdrew before the flop (not participating) Seat 8: Griboedow gave up River Seat 9: igrok-v-ps gave up on the flop
Posted by urmas1983: like this PokerStars Tournament # arm # 76962784369: 519904980, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit-Level I (10/20)-12/03/10 20: 02: 39 EET [12/03/10 13: 02: 39 ET] Table ' 519904980 ' 9-max Seat 458 # 3 button Seat 9: v. stonkus (1500 m�ngum�rkides) is sitting out Seat 2: urmas1983 (1330 m�ngum�rkides) Seat 3: joro todorov (1880 m�ngum�rkides) Seat 4: cokenol (4470 m�ngum�rkides) Seat 5: horka4 (1500 m�ngum�rkides) Seat 6: drvoja178 (1500 m�ngum�rkides) is sitting out Seat 7: 20 alina (1440 m�ngum�rkides) Seat 8: Griboedow (1440 m�ngum�rkides) Seat 9: igrok-v-ps (1440 m�ngum�rkides) cokenol: post to a small pimepanuse 10 horka4: post to a large pimepanuse 20 * * * * * * POCKET CARDS Shared urmas1983 [7 c 5 c] drvoja178: cancels 20: cancels alina Griboedow: pays 20 igrok-v-ps: pays 20 v. stonkus: cancels urmas1983: pays 20 joro todorov: pays 20 cokenol: pay 10 horka4: passib *** FLOP *** [Ac 9 d 6 c] cokenol: passib horka4: passib Griboedow: passib igrok-v-ps: passib urmas1983: passib joro todorov: bets 20 cokenol: pays 20 horka4: pays 20 Griboedow: pays 20 igrok-v-ps: cancels urmas1983: pays 20 *** TURN *** [Ac 9 d 6 c] [2 c] cokenol: bets 100 horka4: cancels Griboedow: pays 100 urmas1983: pays 100 joro: renounces todorov *** RIVER *** [Ac 9 d 6 c 2 c] cokenol: bets 260 Griboedow: will pay 260 urmas1983: raise 280 up to 540 cokenol: highlights in 1940 up to 2480 Griboedow: cancels urmas1983: pay 650 and is all-in Returned unpaid contribution (1290) cokenol * * * * * * SHOWDOWN cokenol: shows [6 h 2 h] (House, Deuces and kuued) urmas1983: shows [7 c 5 c] (flush, ACE high) cokenol Bank took 3160 4969. urmas1983 graduated from the tournament -time *** SUMMARY *** The entire Bank 3160 | Rake 0 Desk [Ac 9 d 6 c 2 c 2d] Seat 9: v. stonkus withdrew before the flop (not participating) Seat 2: urmas1983 revealed [7 c 5 c] and lost the suit, ACE high Seat 3: joro todorov (button) chose not to Turn Seat 4: cokenol (small pot) showed [6 h 2 h] and won (3160) House, Deuces and kuued Seat 5: horka4 (a large pot) chose not to Turn Seat 6: drvoja178, withdrew before the flop (not participating) Seat 7: 20 alina withdrew before the flop (not participating) Seat 8: Griboedow gave up River Seat 9: igrok-v-ps gave up on the flop
On this board you are being beaten by 55 possible starting hands that your opponent could hold yet you decide to raise a river bet and then call an all in? This isn't bad luck you got exactly what you deserved here.
Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 60 (M)
Posts: 3361
I can't say a lot about what your saying, but I can tell you that I will observe what your saying very close. It's hard for me to believe that this actually happens and if there's any truth to it based on probablity it can be calculated. If the big stack calls more often then players with a small stack the buigstack probably does hit more often. You can't take the odds from one player with the big stack and compare that player to four players with smaller stacks because most of the time the bigstack will call more then any one of those four smaller stacks so the bigstack is likely to hit, even the river, more often.
Maybe I'm just confused and want to believe electronic poker is 100% legit, but i'll watch closer!
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 107
Examples that you give us is so old fashion,cmon man Its about psihology.You remember when you busted some short staker or just remeber when you lose from high staker.Just minimize pot if you play No limit,just for avoid such things
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 47 (F)
Posts: 14136
Take a break and change site. Why you keep playing there if you have came up to that conclusion. If for some reason i was convinced for something wouldnt still trying to prove it otherwise. (speaking in general and not only for poker )
Joined: Jun '08
Location: Poland
Age: 84 (M)
Posts: 545
I explain it to you again what I mean, because it just happend again 2 min.ago: 2nd hour of tourney, 2 players in hand: I'm holding A4s at SB ,big stack raise 2 BB from middle position and I just flat call to see the flop. Flop is: A 4 3 and I have 2 paars, big stack bets, I 3-bet him and he push all-in showing pathetic: KQ off / till now zero connection to the flop /. Now come the highlights, some call it runner runner, I call it fukin' joke from garlic brothers from PokerStars. TURN: J, RIVER: T. And suddenly he has: AKQJT just like that, from air, pushing with nothing, investing half of his stack in horrible bluff ? If it happens sometimes , I have nothing against, but it's a standard situation at Stars, so it must be something about it......just watch the replay of final tables from Sunday Tourneys....same s**t all the time.
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Finland
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 1613
If you have cracked the "rigg" set by pokerstars why do you spoil this gold mine by telling us ? And why dont you just exploit it yourself in all quietness over and over and over again ?
Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 58 (M)
Posts: 1372
Ok, so now you've broken the code and worked out that it's rigged, why is it you're posting here rather than using this knowledge to your advantage to make some cash?
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