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  14-Mar-12, 15:41   #21
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Arithmajik 

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Ha ha, good one zeroster, some good cop / bad cop would be awesome. It may be hard to be a convincing bad cop anonymously over the net though. And Marqis, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens a lot, like with the guy with the ongoing thread.

     
  14-Mar-12, 16:23   #22
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TheMachineQC 

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It's true that some people are pretty rude with the rigtards, and insulting them will probably not make them change their mind. Truth is we have no proof any poker site is 100% clean, just like the rigtards have no proof it isn't. But I don't understand why most people presume they would mess with the cards. Of course, action cards = big pots = more rake for the site. But that would be obvious with all the stats there is out there (PTR, sharkscope etc.). In my opinion, if a poker site wants to steal our money, they can probably just take it like FTP did since most of the servers are in indian reserves Blink

     
  14-Mar-12, 16:40   #23
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by TheMachineQC:
Truth is we have no proof any poker site is 100% clean, just like the rigtards have no proof it isn't.

there is lot of proof the poker sites are most likely not rigged, not 100% though
but there is no proof at all poker sites could be rigged.
i think there is lot of difference between the two to consider them "just like"

     
  14-Mar-12, 17:09   #24
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doomdy 

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Rigtard is a lifestyle.
I notice a lot more people joing this group.
Be aware, maybe even whole countries will join them, then they get more power ect.

Maybe we must kill all rigtards before its too late? Confused

     
  14-Mar-12, 17:20   #25
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TheMachineQC 

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You're right SuperNoob, I didn't mean it that way, I should've said "like", not "just like"!

I only wanted to say that we can't know for sure if a site is clean or not. And more importantly that rigging the cards is surely not the best way to make money on the players' backs undetected. It would be pretty stupid to try that actually, especially since they don't need to do anything wrong to make tons of money. All they need is publicity to make people play on their sites Dollar

     
  14-Mar-12, 17:55   #26
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by TheMachineQC:
I only wanted to say that we can't know for sure if a site is clean or not. And more importantly that rigging the cards is surely not the best way to make money on the players' backs undetected. It would be pretty stupid to try that actually, especially since they don't need to do anything wrong to make tons of money. All they need is publicity to make people play on their sites Dollar

or do it like fulltilt and absolute, just run away with people's money Angry
that's why i think there are much bigger things to worry in online poker than rigged software

Edited by SuperNoob (Wednesday, March 14, 2012 @ 18:47 GMT)


     
  14-Mar-12, 18:33   #27
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gmgm 
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ive got a new strategy and im getting in bubble often i sit to the left handside and move the game off the screen abit so the raise button is hidden you can only call or fold, try it Tongue Smile Big Smile Cool Blink Sad Tongue Dollar Dollar Dollar Dollar Dollar Dollar Dollar Dollar Dollar Dollar Dollar Dollar Dollar

     
  14-Mar-12, 20:19   #28
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Greenmohave 

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You have a very good point, but I have played with some players that believe they're good and you (I) don't want to tell them this. So, first off! How would you begin to inform an individual that they're not playing well. This really is hard to do without offending the individual. It's really hard for me since I've only been playing for a little more then a year, but honestly fare well.


I learned a long time ago it's best to talk with an individual rather then to an individual, but some people know it all aand really believe they're good players. Tough subject, but like your ideas!

     
  17-Mar-12, 01:55   #29
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Arithmajik 

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Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by TheMachineQC:
I only wanted to say that we can't know for sure if a site is clean or not. And more importantly that rigging the cards is surely not the best way to make money on the players' backs undetected. It would be pretty stupid to try that actually, especially since they don't need to do anything wrong to make tons of money. All they need is publicity to make people play on their sites Dollar

or do it like fulltilt and absolute, just run away with people's money Angry
that's why i think there are much bigger things to worry in online poker than rigged software


Ha ha ha! Burn! Good one Super Noob.

@Green: I'd say that's a good line of reasoning. And you're definitely right about it being a touchy subject (for some) that is difficult to approach. And like Jess said certain people have a poor attitude when it comes to self improvement.

There's no right answer I suppose, obviously we can't psychoanalyze every new forum member, lol.

     
  17-Mar-12, 05:19   #30
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pokershark74 

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Posted by Arithmajik:
obviously we can't psychoanalyze every new forum member, lol.


NOW THERES AN IDEA! psychiatric testing upon sign up
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LMFAO

     
  17-Mar-12, 06:55   #31
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zeroster 

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Regarding rigtard threads, I really think that after 2 maybe 3 pages max we should just drop it. The argument has generally been made and won by this stage. Any further discourse is pointless, frustrating and probably just feeding an attention seeker.

     
  17-Mar-12, 07:03   #32
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pokershark74 

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Posted by zeroster:
Regarding rigtard threads, I really think that after 2 maybe 3 pages max we should just drop it. The argument has generally been made and won by this stage. Any further discourse is pointless, frustrating and probably just feeding an attention seeker.


yet another good point my friend! as you can see in the never ending rigtard posting going on right now my last post completely agrees with that point and lets hope its the last post of that thread Worship

though i very much doubt that lmfao

     
  17-Mar-12, 14:48   #33
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pochui 

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are you 100% sure poker is not rigged? and by this question i mean not the game of poker itself, but the online poker operators- i think we have seen enough evidence that something is very fishy in this market- full tilt and ub/ap showed more than we would have wanted to see... Big Smile

     
  17-Mar-12, 16:07   #34
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TheMachineQC 

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Posted by pochui:
are you 100% sure poker is not rigged? and by this question i mean not the game of poker itself, but the online poker operators- i think we have seen enough evidence that something is very fishy in this market- full tilt and ub/ap showed more than we would have wanted to see... Big Smile


Yeah but it doesn't mean all the rooms are rotten too Blink

Never had any problems with Mansion Poker, PKR and pokerstars! We shouldn't put them all in the same basket, cause one day the governements might take control of the whole industry, and it could get a lot worse Evil (paying taxes ect.)

     
  17-Mar-12, 16:33   #35
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zeroster 

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Posted by pochui:
are you 100% sure poker is not rigged? and by this question i mean not the game of poker itself, but the online poker operators- i think we have seen enough evidence that something is very fishy in this market- full tilt and ub/ap showed more than we would have wanted to see... Big Smile


No, no one can be 100% sure, but the burden of proof lies with those making the accusation, and they just don't have it.

     
  19-Mar-12, 17:39   #36
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Arithmajik 

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Posted by pokershark74:
Posted by Arithmajik:
obviously we can't psychoanalyze every new forum member, lol.


NOW THERES AN IDEA! psychiatric testing upon sign up
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LMFAO


Ha ha, yeah. I wonder how a five page psychiatric survey would affect the rate of new signees, lol.
What would be even better if the true purpose of the survey way to analyze their play style, you know so we could all help them improve, lol.


     
  19-Mar-12, 21:36   #37
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jbrooksie 

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Posted by zeroster:
Regarding rigtard threads, I really think that after 2 maybe 3 pages max we should just drop it. The argument has generally been made and won by this stage. Any further discourse is pointless, frustrating and probably just feeding an attention seeker.


To quote jessthehuman - THIS +1 Thumbs Up

     
  20-Mar-12, 07:33   #38
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Flippedchips 

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Posted by SuperNoob:

opening a thread in a forum to claim a site is rigged without any actual proof (especially for people who usually dont post in that forum) and use of words like "sure" "always" "proof" "100%" "evidence""blatant" "any1 with half the brain working can see" etc is suggestive of delusional behavior.


you forgot the best word of all to prove they are right FACT!!! Its the classic of one of the most hardcore rigtards of all time OnlineJoke, that guy was special Big Smile

     
  21-Mar-12, 18:10   #39
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arsenej1 

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u have to put "long number probibility" into perspective too though....was running some numbers while i was droppin a log/pinching a loaf in the toilet earlier i came to the conclusion maybe were not hard on them, but in fact they are too hard on us!?

     
  23-Mar-12, 21:36   #40
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DaCapo71 
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No, to much users didn´t read the titles from other threads and so we have x threads with the same questions in the forum. This is not really a problem, but so some newbies become bad answers for bad questions Big Smile

     
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