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  12-Mar-12, 15:37   #1
What will you do ? - continuation 0 
Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1477
Here complete video and hand histoy. Majority opinion is bet pot or more. but personally, I choose FOLD pre-flop is the best, 2nd just call and fold when didn't hit straight on turn or there is flush tendency .
My reason is : Theory and experience, this video is an example

This is copy from Doyle Brunson : Super system. So I will play JJ like I play small pair, Not always of course. Next time I will post my video where I broke my principle.

Thanks for all of you who gave your opinion, It's very useful for me. Hope one day I will show you how i play base on your sharing . Good luck all, hope this discuss useful for you, too.

HOW TO PLAY
SPECIFIC HANDS

An important qualification you must be aware of before reading what follows is that the recommendations I make are how you should generally play the hands discussed. That's the way I generally play them. But, you should never fall into a pattern playing Poker. I don't. I always vary my play ... I try to mix it up as much as I can. I never consistently repeat my action on any4hand. I don't play like a computer that's programmed to do the same routine over and over again. The high-quality of players I play against on a regular basis would easily detect a pattern to my play if there was any. So I never do the same thing with the same hand from the same position against the same player. I'm always changing speeds during the course of a game.
However, for your purposes, my playing recommendations for a particular hand are a good way for you to play them ... until your opponents learn your style. When they do ... you start shifting gears — up and down continuously — until there is no noticeable pattern.
I'm going to break the game down into four major — and very broad — categories as follows:
I. PAIRS
II. SMALL CONNECTING CARDS
III. BORDERLINE HANDS
IV. TRASH HANDS
How to play your hand when you have a Pair in the pocket is going to be discussed first. That category will be sub-divided and discussed as follows:
a. Big Pairs — A-A, K-K and A-K
b. Q-Q
c. J-J down to 2-2



Game #50926056-157: Micro Hero NL $30 Guarantee - No Limit Holdem Tournament - 300.00/600.00
Seat #0: gnomze70 (SB), $2356.00
Seat #1: chopoff (BB), $29895.00
Seat #2: duckbuttz2, $808.00
Seat #4: yanksrule23, $23341.00
Seat #5: BuckO6, $10718.00
Seat #7: Dunhills2, $3892.00
Seat #8: aca3447, $23366.00
Seat #9: kbDogman (D), $24244.00
*** Blinds ***
gnomze70 posts the small blind of 300.00
chopoff posts the big blind of 600.00
*** Pre-Flop ***
chopoff got hole cards [ J :dia: J :hea: ]
duckbuttz2 goes all-in with 808.00
yanksrule23 raises with 2306.00
BuckO6 folds
Dunhills2 folds
aca3447 calls 2306.00
kbDogman folds
gnomze70 folds
chopoff calls 1706.00
*** Flop *** Pot: 8026
[ T :clu: 8 :clu: 9 :dia: ]
chopoff checks
yanksrule23 bets 2400.00
aca3447 calls 2400.00
chopoff calls 2400.00
*** Turn *** Pot: 15226
[ T :clu: 8 :clu: 9 :dia: ] [ 5 :hea: ]
chopoff checks
yanksrule23 bets 3600.00
aca3447 calls 3600.00
chopoff calls 3600.00
*** River *** Pot: 26026
[ T :clu: 8 :clu: 9 :dia: ] [ 5 :hea: ] [ A :spade: ]
chopoff checks
yanksrule23 bets 7800.00
aca3447 folds
chopoff folds
*** Showdown *** Pot: 33826
yanksrule23 shows [ T :spade: A :hea: ]
duckbuttz2 shows [ T :dia: J :spade: ]
duckbuttz2 is out
yanksrule23 wins 4012.00
yanksrule23 wins 30294.00

Edited by Serpang (Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 15:39 GMT)


     
  12-Mar-12, 17:01   #2
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MicroMachina 

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 657
You think he would have folded to an allin raise? I think watching the video makes me curious about how they played up till that point. I dunno that was a tough spot even knowing what they had.

     
  12-Mar-12, 17:36   #3
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8643
in the end in poker the only thing is important to have a winning performance in the long run- as far as strategy goes- you can look at it several ways: some people just go for same decisions over and over again (like in given example go all in/fold, call etc.) others try to "feel" the moment- they might go with one decision one time and other next time- as long as you win in the long term you rock Dollar

     
  15-Mar-12, 04:59   #4
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1477
Posted by MicroMachina:
You think he would have folded to an allin raise? I think watching the video makes me curious about how they played up till that point. I dunno that was a tough spot even knowing what they had.



That spot just for show our hand cos my recording very bad and I couldn't edit better .I thought possibly he would fold if I go all-in ( I did before ) but not sure he ever call, too. Confused Confused

     
  15-Mar-12, 05:07   #5
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TheMachineQC 

Joined: Apr '10
Location: Canada
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 2121
With that river, in a 3 way pot, I would've folded too. But I would NEVER slow play my jacks on the turn there, and I would've probably check raised on the flop to protect my hand. The thing is, it's easy to try to represent the nuts there (QJ) because you have J-J, and if the players against you are good they might fold to a big bet.

Anyways, the guy with top pair top kicker would've probably called whatever you do (unless he's really tight/skilled maybe), so in the end I think you lost the minimum. Smile

     
  15-Mar-12, 05:12   #6
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jovicakralj 

Joined: Nov '10
Location: Serbia
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 2075
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Just saw it has continuation. My option of check and when one raises and other calls was to go all in. I dont know would A10 or 10j call, my guess at least one would, but that would give you chance to double or triple up as huge favorite. A on river should not be concidered at all since it doesnt matter. Only that matters is to put chips in good.
So, I think I was right Cool Big Smile

     
  15-Mar-12, 09:39   #7
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Chartoule 
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 1261
I posted in the no-continuation post and now see this one!!!!!!!!

A good raise preflop with the JJ make the hand more easy to play. As the push of the short is like a limp, if one of the other two players call we have a pot big enough to continue beting to finally allin with our overpair and OESD.




     
  15-Mar-12, 13:21   #8
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4764
You fold because you saw an ace, that is always the big question. I think you did well, I would have done the same, even if I had KK. That’s the problem of aces at the table when we don’t have them in the hand. Either we are playing for anything else, a draw, straight or flush, or the ace will always disarm our hands. I only needed one time loosing big money ($5, to me is a lot in a poker game) to see pocket kings aren’t enough to beat any pair of aces, and all because of an A that comes to the table.

     
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