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  27-Mar-12, 09:53   #1
random my ass -1 
kovy85 
Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 8
here are the results of my last 2 pokers hands, 1st hand in 2 separate tournaments...entered 1st tourney, lost, watched angela jolie in the bone collector and then i played the 2nd tourney and lost. what are the odds of this happening?


*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Hand #77877625626: Tournament #566010072, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2012/03/27 1:20:43 ET
Table '566010072 7' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: crazyfuzz (8240 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: WithYourMom (5910 in chips)
Seat 3: kovy85 (3000 in chips)
Seat 4: GolfBall627 (3540 in chips)
Seat 5: giannoss (3090 in chips)
Seat 6: Pauk8844 (2825 in chips)
Seat 7: gargamel82 (6760 in chips)
Seat 8: cintezoi (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: mirfil (3840 in chips)
giannoss: posts small blind 20
Pauk8844: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kovy85 [Ad Ac]
gargamel82: raises 40 to 80
cintezoi: folds
mirfil: calls 80
crazyfuzz: folds
WithYourMom: folds
kovy85: raises 240 to 320
GolfBall627: folds
giannoss: folds
Pauk8844: folds
gargamel82: calls 240
mirfil: calls 240
*** FLOP *** [4s 8c 6s]
gargamel82: checks
mirfil: checks
kovy85: bets 1040
gargamel82: calls 1040
mirfil: raises 2480 to 3520 and is all-in
kovy85: calls 1640 and is all-in
gargamel82: calls 2480
*** TURN *** [4s 8c 6s] 2 of clubs
*** RIVER *** [4s 8c 6s 2c] 6 of clubs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gargamel82: shows [3c 5c] (a flush, Eight high)
mirfil: shows [3s As] (a pair of Sixes)
gargamel82 collected 1680 from side pot
kovy85: shows [Ad Ac] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
gargamel82 collected 9060 from main pot
mirfil finished the tournament in 1143rd place
kovy85 finished the tournament in 1144th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10740 Main pot 9060. Side pot 1680. | Rake 0
Board [4s 8c 6s 2c 6c]
Seat 1: crazyfuzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: WithYourMom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kovy85 showed [Ad Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 4: GolfBall627 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: giannoss (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Pauk8844 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: gargamel82 showed [3c 5c] and won (10740) with a flush, Eight high
Seat 8: cintezoi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: mirfil showed [3s As] and lost with a pair of Sixes


*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Hand #77879911974: Tournament #537484561, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (60/120) - 2012/03/27 3:39:55 ET
Table '537484561 55' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: RMYNWA (6270 in chips)
Seat 2: 3eBc (2000 in chips)
Seat 3: Serg-Sanya (10366 in chips)
Seat 4: Kent the man (10306 in chips)
Seat 5: rodriguin_df (3617 in chips)
Seat 6: GuessWho2504 (1970 in chips)
Seat 7: IRBIS MAN (3731 in chips)
Seat 8: kovy85 (2000 in chips)
Seat 9: $T0P~me!! (1085 in chips)
RMYNWA: posts the ante 15
3eBc: posts the ante 15
Serg-Sanya: posts the ante 15
Kent the man: posts the ante 15
rodriguin_df: posts the ante 15
GuessWho2504: posts the ante 15
IRBIS MAN: posts the ante 15
kovy85: posts the ante 15
$T0P~me!!: posts the ante 15
rodriguin_df: posts small blind 60
GuessWho2504: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kovy85 [Ah As]
IRBIS MAN: calls 120
kovy85: raises 1865 to 1985 and is all-in
$T0P~me!!: folds
RMYNWA: folds
3eBc: folds
Serg-Sanya: folds
Kent the man: folds
rodriguin_df: folds
GuessWho2504: folds
IRBIS MAN: calls 1865
*** FLOP *** [Jh Js 9d]
*** TURN *** [Jh Js 9d] 5 of diamonds
*** RIVER *** [Jh Js 9d 5d] 10 of diamonds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IRBIS MAN: shows [Qh Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks)
kovy85: shows [Ah As] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
IRBIS MAN collected 4285 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4285 | Rake 0
Board [Jh Js 9d 5d Td]
Seat 1: RMYNWA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: 3eBc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Serg-Sanya folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Kent the man (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: rodriguin_df (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: GuessWho2504 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: IRBIS MAN showed [Qh Jc] and won (4285) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 8: kovy85 showed [Ah As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 9: $T0P~me!! folded before Flop (didn't bet)

     
  27-Mar-12, 09:56   #2
  0 
zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 1372
Well, to start with....oh f**k it I can't be bothered anymore. Aww crap!

I'm just so tired of this, it's every other post. Time to find a new poker forum I think, one with people that actually have just a basic grasp of probability.

Edited by zeroster (Tuesday, March 27, 2012 @ 10:51 GMT)


     
  27-Mar-12, 10:43   #3
  +1 
0HighTimes0 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: New Zealand
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 143
Is this A Random Ass Post (joke) Get over it, (AA is not the NUTS just best starting/Pre floop Hand)
Spade U WIN U LOSE Heart
Diamond U LOSE U WIN Club

Edited by 0HighTimes0 (Tuesday, March 27, 2012 @ 10:47 GMT)


     
  27-Mar-12, 11:01   #4
  0 
magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 3713
Just buy yourself a fishing rod and spend your days on the bank of a river....and try not to get rivered there Blink

     
  27-Mar-12, 12:04   #5
  0 
SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 4873
LNP theorems

Theorem no- 03446688955687i9076554222556678889994453632728292927446547- Theorem of random ass
the odds of making 'rigged' thread in a random forum after getting aces first hand in 2 tournaments and losing both is inversely proportional to time spent watching ass of angelina jolie in bone collector
Worship Worship

for more details - refer to "Rigtards Guidebook to LNP"

Posted by zeroster:
I'm just so tired of this, it's every other post. Time to find a new poker forum I think, one with people that actually have just a basic grasp of probability.

you cant run from rigtards, they are everywhere.
in some of the forums, condition is worse than this. just ignore them or have a laugh Blink

     
  27-Mar-12, 12:25   #6
  0 
Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4764
That mirfil from the first hand is crazy: is he just a kid, is he drunk, or is he just in a mood to lose money? About gargamel82, is sure should have had that feeling. Straight draw is nice, but that nice to go all-in? I bet he was putting you in high cards and watching so many low cards at the table he thought he would made it, and that just happened, but I would only do such move if, besides straight draw, I would also have flush draw, which wasn’t the case at the flop, when you both went all-in. About the second hand, nothing strange there, you were short, your opponent had 3x your chips and also need to increase, going against you with QJ is fair enough.

     
  27-Mar-12, 12:27   #7
  -1 
kovy85 
Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 8
answer the question for me please, what are the odds?

     
  27-Mar-12, 12:52   #8
  0 
SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 4873
Posted by kovy85:
answer the question for me please, what are the odds?

arent u asking too much for someone who doesnt even understand what first hand in a tournament means ?????

anyway your odds of losing both hands when u went allin were 1 to 10 (about 9%)
though like i said in another thread, they are irrelevant in this scenario.

     
  27-Mar-12, 12:55   #9
  0 
Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1477
Posted by kovy85:
answer the question for me please, what are the odds?


No have answer yet ? I am sure just real expert can answer your question. with super natural reason I guest Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile . I also curious what the answer ! MAYBE the answer is when someone in bad luck moment or day no have odds, so do not do anything Big Smile Big Smile Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  27-Mar-12, 13:28   #10
  0 
GomerAssassi 
Joined: Jul '11
Location: Canada
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 151
WELL dont know the odds of this happening but; everyone knows it takes more than one hand to win a tourney...

what did ya think..gotta win the first hand and then that is it? everyone else would just fold to your unbelievable first hand.

     
  27-Mar-12, 14:32   #11
  0 
pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8643
hey dude your ass may feel the randomness- who knows what are you sticking there Confused but in terms of probability- whether the random number generator (combinations) do work or are rigged can only be seen when studying a very large amount of data (hands)- and in a short time frame you can lose with aa 4 times in a row and that wouldn't mean that there is something wrong with the site Aww crap!

     
  27-Mar-12, 15:01   #12
  0 
magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 3713
@ Kovy

let me suggest you some music helpful to face these bad beats

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  27-Mar-12, 16:42   #13
  0 
zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 1372
Posted by SuperNoob:

Posted by zeroster:
I'm just so tired of this, it's every other post. Time to find a new poker forum I think, one with people that actually have just a basic grasp of probability.

you cant run from rigtards, they are everywhere.
in some of the forums, condition is worse than this. just ignore them or have a laugh Blink


Actually I am already a member of another poker forum. I've been there for about 18 months and in all that time I have never seen a single rigged thread. It's probably because it's mostly inhabited by mid to high stakes players with a few known pros thrown in, most of whom also play a lot of live poker. Obviously I rarely post there as I'd be completely out of my depth.

This place because of it's very nature, ie. giving away free bankrolls, is mostly micro stakes and free roll players. This, I think, is what gives rise to the problem. As most of the members here are playing micros they are running into loads of players that will call down to the river with any two and therefore see way more bad beats than they would expect.

     
  27-Mar-12, 17:04   #14
  0 
doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 6197
Just standard hands, it happens.

But for rigtards it must feel like rigged, deffo Evil

     
  27-Mar-12, 17:19   #15
  0 
jbrooksie 

Joined: Oct '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 442
Why are there so many whiners on this site?

Oh bugger, I'm one now Aww crap!

     
  27-Mar-12, 17:44   #16
  0 
B1gfoot 

Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 6714
Murr...


     
  27-Mar-12, 17:57   #17
  0 
MarcWinz 

Joined: Oct '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 644
Hi Kovy 85


Let me tell you one thing ................S**T Happens - get over it and stop bleeding whingeing !!!!


GL the rest of you.................







Big Smile Smile Big Smile Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  28-Mar-12, 00:02   #18
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 3361
I don't care that the post is a whine session. What I find hard to believe is you've been a member since 08 and this is your 7th post. Maybe if you'd spend some time posting and make some of them interesting or about having some luck or enjoying the freerolls that BRM offers you'd gain respect from the fellow Mobsters.
By the way I probably hit about 65% of the timwe when I have AA and always scared how to play them. I mean Allin, slow, but usually just like a regular pair is when I do best. Not being sarcastic and Good Luck to all!

     
  28-Mar-12, 02:12   #19
  +1 
jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
When I am playing poker - I play either 9 tables of 6max RING game. Or 6-9 tables of MTTs and open more as time goes on - I usually play around 10-20 MTTs in a single session.

You have no idea how funny I think it is that you think a couple hands are some kind of significant thing. First hand - you weren't even that far ahead - you had an over pair, he had an OESD + backdoor flush draw, he hit his draw and won. have a F*cking cry mate.

Seriously, if you feel the need to post this crap, poker isn't for you. You're a little girl and maybe better playing a game like barbie dolls or something similar.

     
  28-Mar-12, 02:16   #20
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tomboogy 

Joined: May '10
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 147
@Greenmohave: If you still play AA scared you should change tactics..or the game.. (really no disrespect intended, I know the thrill of the aces..and I know how I used to feel too, but if you play them like a paranoic person you'll get into trouble more often than not).
I used to think "oh god my aces win about 60% of the time i''m so unlucky bla bla" but then I got Holdem Manager and on a sample of about 120K hands I saw that I won with AA 79.5%...seemed about right Blink

P.S.: only good thing I got from this post was the ass of angelina jolie in bone collector yey Big Smile

     
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