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  31-Mar-12, 20:41   #1
hmmm good or bad ? +1 
oualidel 

Joined: Mar '12
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hello evreyone hey fan of BRM .

Agree

i playing so much pokerstars but there some problem when i play and i have this cart

< K-3 / Q-2 / A-2 / J-3 >

and some players do all in before the flop.
is good to do all-in or just fold ? i lose sometimes and i have A-3 or Q-3
any discussion feel free to reply i will be glad to see it !!

thanks again !

     
  31-Mar-12, 20:44   #2
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sadamman 

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Maybe play a2 off and all of them suited except j3 when you're on the button or in the hijack depending on the bet but otherwise instafold, and instafold to big raises.

     
  31-Mar-12, 20:48   #3
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oualidel 

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ty @sadamman so if i have A-2 i will do all-in Thumbs Up i will try my luck

     
  31-Mar-12, 22:22   #4
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Greenmohave 

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I'm not very experienced, but in most cases those are hands that I fold without thinking about it. There are times when they're suited and I'mm BB or SB and get in for that with no raises I'll play them and once in awhile get lucky and hit. I'm relatively tight and those aren't hands I would play so be wise and wait for better hands.

     
  31-Mar-12, 23:05   #5
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oualidel 

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@Greenmohave ty for this awwsome replyy Sleepy

     
  1-Apr-12, 00:43   #6
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sadamman 

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No don't go all in on a2 either fold or bet, but not too big. Fold to aggression, and maybe call an all in if its only one or 2 people, and you have position, so you know there wont be another few callers. But only if its suited, or if its a freeroll or micro stakes, or if they're just idiots.

     
  1-Apr-12, 00:55   #7
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oualidel 

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@sadamman ty- i realy love do discussion whit you guys i get more information ty so much Heart

     
  1-Apr-12, 02:37   #8
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mascona 

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Listen to sadamman and you will soon be a pro......Q2 & J3 are such a good combinations to call allin....your question rulezzz !!!! Worship Worship Worship And don't forget to reraise always with J5 !!!

     
  1-Apr-12, 03:15   #9
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
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Posted by oualidel:
hello evreyone hey fan of BRM .

Agree

i playing so much pokerstars but there some problem when i play and i have this cart

< K-3 / Q-2 / A-2 / J-3 >

and some players do all in before the flop.
is good to do all-in or just fold ? i lose sometimes and i have A-3 or Q-3
any discussion feel free to reply i will be glad to see it !!

thanks again !



I suggest you start read poker theory, I don't know you ever read it or not, If ever just read again.
Poker strategies at this site, article and poker book. hand history and blog. Don't just practice,
theory also important.

     
  1-Apr-12, 06:08   #10
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doomdy 

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With folding you cant win money so CALL offcourse!!!

     
  1-Apr-12, 06:10   #11
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shokaku 

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These are all junk hands. You must be a real poker god, or play against braindead opponents to win money with this type of hands in the long run.So try to fold those hands more often.

     
  1-Apr-12, 07:45   #12
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hoodi420 

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Posted by shokaku:
These are all junk hands. You must be a real poker god, or play against braindead opponents to win money with this type of hands in the long run.So try to fold those hands more often.

If you find yourself playing hands like these. Beware you are crossing a line that is going to lose you a lot of money.

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In the long run. You may see players paying these types of hands, but they are junk. Don't make the same mistakes. Players you see playing these hands are more than likely not "winning" players. Trust me there are plenty of losing players in poker, how do you think the good players make money? The player at the table that makes the least mistakes will win the most money in general, in the long run. So even if they get lucky with those junk hands, they are still losing money, bc the more often you play junk the more likely it will be that you lose money.

     
  1-Apr-12, 07:50   #13
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htar 
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Worship Worship

     
  1-Apr-12, 09:19   #14
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sadamman 

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Posted by shokaku:
These are all junk hands. You must be a real poker god, or play against braindead opponents to win money with this type of hands in the long run.So try to fold those hands more often.


I agree from a good poker perspective, which a beginner should try to play by. But its one of the many paradoxes these situations. It's all down to situation, if you're one of the last two to call, and its cheap. Then call or raise depending on how strong you think you are and go fishing is what I think.

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Posted by mascona:
Listen to sadamman and you will soon be a pro


I don't know if that's sarcastic or not, but alot of truth is said in jest. Tongue

Edited by sadamman (Sunday, April 01, 2012 @ 11:53 GMT)


     
  1-Apr-12, 12:33   #15
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IslandJack 

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I see there is a lot of joking here, but I think this was a serious question.

DEFINITE FOLD when you have 1 or more all-ins.
All the pocket cards you mention are garbage, and should (almost always) be folded.

They are so bad they have "reverse implied odds".
This means you will lose chips more often than you will win with these hands.

Just think:
Someone goes all-in.
What are the chances he is holding an A? HUGE
What are the chances he is holding an A with a higher kicker? HUGE

You call with K3.
a K hits the flop.
Someone raises.
What do you do?

You have probably already lost the hand, as he is (probably) holding a K with a higher kicker.
If you hit the 3, what do you do?
Probably lose more money as someone will be holding a higher pair (not difficult), or hit any card on the board for a higher pair. (not difficult)

Anyway, start reading a bit more about "starting hands" so you will not lose TONS of money in the long run. Blink

     
  1-Apr-12, 12:54   #16
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NikiKiki 
Joined: Mar '10
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Only fold ! You may load poker calculators from www.newpokersoft.com and you will see
probabilities of win with different number of opps !

     
  1-Apr-12, 12:59   #17
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AlexSimion 
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Location: Romania
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You mustn't call with these cards ,especially all-ins pre flop , even if you see that you might have won a hand , with K 3 , or A 2 , or something like that , trust me , in the future you'll loose way more if you continue playing these cards , in another post I believe you said you only started playing poker a few days, so I guess it will take some time for you to adjust, and make your own strategy , so my advice for you is to play as many freerolls as you can , until you'll have pretty good knowledge about this game Smile . Have fun.

     
  1-Apr-12, 13:49   #18
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oualidel 

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thanks guys for all thereply i found it helpfull Heart i love you all

     
  1-Apr-12, 15:57   #19
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MicroMachina 

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
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those are more feet then hands. fold. If you are sitting with A8 or better on the button and are short i can understand a shove there but im big against diving with hands that are crushed if called. Who calls an allin? better then A2 is who.

     
  1-Apr-12, 16:50   #20
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urmas1983 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Estonia
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At PokerStars, you must be only lucky skills are not necessary.just had AA vs KK and KK and players with KK riverd A high straight Aww crap! so nice to have 0.00 again on my account tnx jokerstars

     
  1-Apr-12, 17:04   #21
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DaCapo71 
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At stars it is important that you have the second best hand when you are in allin situations. Then you can be sure, that the river is your friend. It was called donk protection and helps stars to generate more money.

     
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