Joined: Jan '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 28 (M)
I've thought about creating a thread like this. Yeah russians are crazy, so are most of eastern europe, but romanians seem to have amazing intuition, I call it gyppo skills. Americans are donk idiots, spanish speaking people are calling stations, germans are technically gifted. Thats my observations.
Joined: Mar '12
Age: 27 (M)
Yeah , I have to agree with you , it's like they've invaded the pokerplatforms , and I also agree with you on your ace theory ) , and sometimes I feel like punching the monitor when I see that their poor-play sometimes pays off .
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
I love the forum topics on here cos they are so off the wall but right down everyones street! Still with me? Theres probably a load of Eastern Europeans thinking....what the hell do the UK'ers think? (Oh yeh, and the Romaina guy!) Do they hold the rule book for poker? I've seen penty of western european idiots play hands that your mother would be ashamed of, yet we find it easy to hit out at everyone else. I love the 'proper' way to play poker, but remember that its a game of making the wrong decision at the right time which leads you to winning sometimes......just think the last time you were down to your last few hands and hoping for a half decent hand and along comes an ace x and you shove! Not everyone waits till then to try their luck but yes it p*****s me off when the early stupid call/raise/allin comes good, especially if I have a potential monster. As they say.......... what do they say?
Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
I really can't take sides or catagorize any specific country or their native background since I have seen players from every country play like donks, calling stations or try to bluff. I've also seen players from most all countries play well.
Another thing is, I've watched the pros play exactly like the people I play on-line with everyday. I mean we call someone a donk, but someone caught bluffing can easily look like a donk if you start classify a player after a dozen hands or less. I watched a lot of the WPT players and many other tournies on the tube lately and they're no better then a lot of the players I see play everyday. The pros just caught the right breaks at the right times and I honestly believe that.
Sorry, but I can't classify players by where they're from and nothing against the thread since it is a good topic. Good Luck to All!
Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
i actually learned a thing about the on-line poker (after changing a few laptops in the last 18 months... who jumped on the walls by mistake) don't hate the player hate the game ... this is the on-line poker world about 50% skill, 10% intuition and 40% luck thats my opinion at least and the thing about east-europeans being very aggresive ... it's kind of out of date ... i've seen other nationalities who are even worse ... but each one with his own style of play .. if everybody would play the same style poker would be one of the most boring games
Joined: Jan '10
Age: 53 (M)
Posted by noonlion:
Notice any patterns?
I don't want to generalise too much but Russians/Eastern Europeans are some of the most aggressive and downright crazy poker players.
They play any ace like it's Christmas come early.
I agree. That's really !! And Romanian / Bulgarian have good instinct , like play J5os, Q3 ALL IN and won. I like play check - shove post turn against them. Character of nation indicate style of play, that's the point
Joined: Apr '09
Age: 37 (M)
There are patterns, because people tend to learn with those who are closer to them and already more experienced. I can say that, where i live, at the begining we that that strange feeling of almost guessing each others cards in some plays because we all played those hands the same way. First, we thought "damn, i am really good in this, now i can go to the tables against better guys and things will work out just fine" but then we realize "our friend who told us how to play talked about what to do with this hand because of preventgin things to go wrong and we all play it the same way, that's the only reason we can do this guess, there's no other reason, we still have a lot to learn".
Joined: May '08
Age: 46 (M)
American players try to play the player but too extreme. Italian players bluf too much, too much sause on the spagheti. Brittish players steal too much, too much beer too much confedense. Belgium players fold too much, too busy eating their chips. Canadian players donk their chips, cos they french related. French players do eerything wrong, mostly cos related to canada. German players are too loose, cos the BMW has to run.
Joined: Mar '12
Age: 44 (M)
Consider that the way people play has a lot to do with their cultural background..
Russians are on the losinghand today, if you compare them with the US while they have always competed with the US for world dominance..So they are very proud and want to always prove this on the poker tables but i think also in general, related to real life.
They way i deal with russians on pokertables is: whenever i beat a russian making a bad play.. i wright this in the chatbox.. to warn all of them at the tables, that they cant scare me away and i am prob. more crazy or skilled then them..(at certain spots) This exctualy counts for all donks i elliminate,,hoping they'll learn from this and take a different stance the next time their against me in any spot..(ive noticed this also ensures me of a good table image) I believe if we all do this ,this will slow all those aggressive players down..and hopefully upgrade the online pokergame in general.
As we play online ,you have to be creative in getting information ,build an image or understand why someones making a certain kind of play..
So knowing about cultural background is one of those things,i think can be usefull on the tables.
What i have experienced is that german players are the least donks and extualy all medditeraenian players, are as aggresive as the eastern europeans..
countries i am alsways carefull with: Canada,germany,spain,Brazil,mexico..have i forgot some?
when things get real serious i use my pokertracker to see what players are at the table.. mostly during breaks in tournaments.. Seek the worst and best player at the table..
I wonder if online poker is more diff. then play a game of quality chess..?? At least you have to be very sharp,,,and think twice before u do anything,,just like in a chessgame.
Joined: Feb '12
Location: New Zealand
Age: 46 (M)
Dose the games(card games) u/we first played or have learn' t in the past, effected/influence the way they/u/me play Texas Holdem?
Popular game in USSR is Durak, and dose this effect the USSR Poker psychicy ( IS THIS WHY THEY GET THE DONKS LABEL? and im not saying they are as there's good bad player's in every country/culture)>
"Durak is a card game that is popular throughout most of the post-Soviet states. The object of the game is to get rid of all one's cards. At the end of the game, the last player with cards in their hand is referred to as the fool (durak)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...ian_card_games
I like playing Razz, stud, and I notice a lot of USSR/eastern European country's play in them, and i wonder if the games the person playin, (in what ever country), dictates the way u/they/me think/look (style's) at playing Texas Holdem (Exp; u started playing Razz first, then u learn't just how to play Poker/Holdem wouldn't you be thinking A 2 3 4 5 is the nuts, instead of A K Q J 10 (royal flush!))
My first memory of seeing Pack of cards, was my grand father playing 500, I was about 4, then when i was about 4/5 yrs old i had my first card game of Black Jack ( and when started playing Poker id go in more than should of with pocket JJ and JA) then not long after pontoon and then stop the bus(31). First Time I remember playing Classic Poker was all so at this time.
There's even diff ways people play same card games, through out history (playing cards, and rulz etc) This effects/influence way people from different country's/cultures play Texas Holdém!? I think so!
Joined: Jan '12
Age: 40 (M)
at least you say for example in your thread that they have an ace .....i have lost so many times whit my AA or KK or AK against a 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 and not whit a low stack but whit stacks from over 100K chips or 200K chips
yesterday was one off the most crazy calls... one guy had a stack off 190K and i was already waiting about 2 ouhrs whit my stack of 90K for some pictures and i got the AK finally i tought he bets 5.000 i raise to 15.000 he calls the flop totally nothing for him or for me turn comes nothing for me and for him only the river card was left and i was taking the lead in the bet to the river so i tought i have to finish this and went all in this crazy lunatic he calls whit his 7 9 knowing that he didn't hit a thing from flop to turn and going whit his 7 9 against my AK for the river card cmon please i would never had done that but this lucky freak hits the 9 on the river i was so sick yesterday ......pffff i still need a brake after that hand and by the way he was russian too
Joined: Nov '10
Age: 29 (M)
Worse are Spanish BY FAR. Maniac all in with 72 then show then say jajajjajajajajajajajajajajajajjajajjajaj in chat and then call your all in with 105 suited and after hitting flush against your AA they say ty donkey Next are naighboards Portugal players, pretty much same style but slightly more closer to having brain. Russians, you can play against worse player in your life and best player in your life and they both could be from mother Russia. So big contry that you cant even notice any paterns except that they play aggro. Funny thing is that Moskow is closer to London then to some toens in Russia Germany, aggressive mostly OK players. UK, dont know what to say, solid. Romanians mostly good agro grinders, lot of them live playing poker. Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, every player that you see on 5$ plus limits its very good for sure and most likely his main income is poker. We dont have money to splash around. Netherland, read Spain with no jajaja Finland, Norway, Sweden, ultra aggro players.