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well they will be back someday anyway- so don't sweat- i hope when they will be back - they will be back with a bang- some sort of huge freeroll tourney, or no deposit bonus (even a smallish one)- one more thing i hope for is that this time full tilt will not be managed in the same "shrewd" way...
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Posted by bullettooth1:
p.s dozn01 the site will be the safest online poker site on the entire world wide web. they will be getting watched so closely they wont be able to fart without the gambling commision knowing about it. good luck everyone hopefully see you on the felts soon
This! I've been pretty much arguing this exact point every tine "that" discussion comes up with friends/family/whoever else I talk to about it either off or online.
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Posted by dozn01: fooking mugs site
hope they open up soon cash out and then fook off and never return, you are muppet if you deposit and play there again imo
I know what you are saying, but if they pull successfully pull it off it will be some much needed good news for the online poker world. They definitely won't be re-entering the US market until they have the legalities of that figured out, but the other poker sites seem to be doing quite well with new markets. Eastern Europe, Asia and Spanish countries have never before had so many online players
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Posted by pochui: well they will be back someday anyway- so don't sweat- i hope when they will be back - they will be back with a bang- some sort of huge freeroll tourney, or no deposit bonus (even a smallish one)- one more thing i hope for is that this time full tilt will not be managed in the same "shrewd" way...
If it was managed in a 'shrewd' way this would never have happened.
shrewd Adjective: 1. Having or showing sharp powers of judgment; astute. 2. (esp. of weather) Piercingly cold: "a shrewd east wind".
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They may be doing some tests, and that is why you and everyone is able to enter on it. I think it’s normal. The funniest is that you keep reading the “You are only minutes away from playing the best online poker software” advice. Yeah, “minutes”, but how many? Thousands, millions? Lets give them time to have everything arranged. I truly believe BRM can even receive some news before we FT registered users, because they had agreements with them. Who knows when BRM will surprises with new FTP news regarding BRM and all their promos?
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Ive read here one of the theories that if they reopen we may have a playthrough for our money Why on earth they should do that? If they reopen and planning to repay us why should playthrough our deposits and winnings Thats silly if you ask me and dont see it happening. Delaying the cash out yes, give us a number to wait in Queue for a cash out yes. But playthrough is unacceptable.
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Posted by bullettooth1: they must be just configuring it all. i definately think that when they come back there will be a big song and dance about it. they will want to create as much hype as possible to keep players there. not just to come back quietly and let people withdraw without letting people know what offers they are giving.
its defo a good sign tho. surely it cant be too much longer. i cannot wait. wwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooottttt
p.s dozn01 the site will be the safest online poker site on the entire world wide web. they will be getting watched so closely they wont be able to fart without the gambling commision knowing about it. good luck everyone hopefully see you on the felts soon
Now that's the truth! After what they been through it will be the safest, most logical site to play on. Only thing I can say is that all these other sites better watch out because FT will be setting the standard for on-line poker. Everyone would still be playing there if it weren't for the DOJ. It's not FT that was the problem, they were just the biggest site out there so what would you want to attack first. The biggest and the best. If everyone's smart they'll be switching to FT because these smaller sites are going to have to abide by the same rules. That is if they want the money from U.S. players. Not saying the rest of the world aren't significant, but the U.S. is what made FT the lagest site out there and the best.
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Posted by Mober: Ive read here one of the theories that if they reopen we may have a playthrough for our money Why on earth they should do that?
Because if that's the only way we can get our money, that's how it will be. I've already said that they need to keep as much money on the site as possible, and start generating rake, which in turn raises capital.
Think of it this way, the site is likely VERY limited in operational funds atm. They need to start generating as much revenue as possible, as quickly as possible, so that they can actually have a budget to work with.
If they DIDN'T put some sort of safeguard in place, everyone would just withdraw, and FT wouild just fold up and die, this time for good.
It's a win-win situation, and I can safely assume that while they likely WILL have a playthrough requirement, they will also offer extra incentives such as an extra xx% of your balance or something.
On another note, as for BRM members knowing first. Well, it's been my experience here, that BRM seems to be about 3 steps behind in terms of news.
I mean it's been over 24 hours since I posted this thread, and they still haven't made their own post yet. IMO BRM needs to step up on this kinda thing, they owe it to the users.
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Posted by IslandJack:
Posted by dozn01: fooking mugs site
hope they open up soon cash out and then fook off and never return, you are muppet if you deposit and play there again imo
Wow!
After countless posts explaining why Full Tilt will be the safest site on the Internet to deposit, you still post this kind of mindless stuff.
Amazing.
I agree tbh. When it all kicked off everyone going on what scumbags and all the rest of it. Soon as a sniff of it back everyone all excited, i see the point if you got money there and want to take it out but being excited to play on a site that shafted most of you for how long now? i suppose you can make a valid point that its going to watched alot and be safe but its more of a moral ground than anything else i guess. Still it baffles me
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Hi guys!!
Seems they are doing some test. Well, this means good news to us, i think.
@dozn01: If owner where the same you were right. But, who´s the new (probably) owner? @mober: (About playthorught) No problem if is a reasonable request. Don´t seem logical to me they make me rake 8k$ to can cashout my 8k in the account.
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Posted by Flippedchips:
Posted by IslandJack:
Posted by dozn01: fooking mugs site
hope they open up soon cash out and then fook off and never return, you are muppet if you deposit and play there again imo
Wow!
After countless posts explaining why Full Tilt will be the safest site on the Internet to deposit, you still post this kind of mindless stuff.
Amazing.
I agree tbh. When it all kicked off everyone going on what scumbags and all the rest of it. Soon as a sniff of it back everyone all excited, i see the point if you got money there and want to take it out but being excited to play on a site that shafted most of you for how long now? i suppose you can make a valid point that its going to watched alot and be safe but its more of a moral ground than anything else i guess. Still it baffles me
I will try one last time to explain, and then I quit.
There is: The SITE (software) And: The OWNERS (people)
The SITE is full Tilt The OWNERS - Lederer, Ferguson etc.
SITE: just software which you cannot be angry at.... And anyone who is better see a psychiatrist. You either like the software or you don't, but "blaming" it for taking 440 million....LOL
OWNERS: scumbags who I really hope end up in jail Anyone has the right and should have the common sense to mistrust these bastards and anything they are connected to.
Where in the hell is the "moral issue"??? Sorry if i seem harsh, but this is just ridiculous.
The Bernard Tapie group has saved countless companies now running well. They are licensing the company (like Pokerstars) in all countries requiring it.
Bitar, Lederer etc. opening a new Poker Site, ok, that is OF COURSE reason not to play there. They're crooks.
But not playing at Full tilt once it opens is like saying: "I'm really pissed off with a bunch of programming and software because they ripped me off!" Grrrrrrr...... NO IT DIDN'T! The previous owners ripped you off.
Christ it's so easy to understand, it baffles and frustrates me to no end having to explain it.
My last post on this issue, just trying to help but, of course, everyone can do as he/she pleases.
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Posted by IslandJack:
SITE: just software which you cannot be angry at.... And anyone who is better see a psychiatrist. You either like the software or you don't, but "blaming" it for taking 440 million....LOL
Don't be saying that, remco was on before, you'll get rigtard rage heading your way.
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Posted by retribution:
Posted by Mober: Ive read here one of the theories that if they reopen we may have a playthrough for our money Why on earth they should do that?
Because if that's the only way we can get our money, that's how it will be. I've already said that they need to keep as much money on the site as possible, and start generating rake, which in turn raises capital.
Think of it this way, the site is likely VERY limited in operational funds atm. They need to start generating as much revenue as possible, as quickly as possible, so that they can actually have a budget to work with.
If they DIDN'T put some sort of safeguard in place, everyone would just withdraw, and FT wouild just fold up and die, this time for good.
It's a win-win situation, and I can safely assume that while they likely WILL have a playthrough requirement, they will also offer extra incentives such as an extra xx% of your balance or something.
I understand what you say, however I don't think they can, after all it is our money, the USA will be getting in full and there for so should we, no restrictions, its part of the deal with DOJ that they can cover the funds in full. I will be pissed off if they put a play-through on my money, even though I don't intend to withdraw it. To keep funds there they should offer a amazing offer, RB for ALL users for a start. I'm quite sure any withdraw will be very, very slow, and intended to be that way.
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Today i have read that the bt group opened a company in ireland and malta with a ft label. Perhaps they really come back next time but i can´t believe that they payback our money.
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If they don't intend to pay back at least some money, they don't need to try to reopen at all. Most players would avoid the new site in those circumstances.
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Posted by B1gfoot:
Posted by retribution:
Posted by Mober: Ive read here one of the theories that if they reopen we may have a playthrough for our money Why on earth they should do that?
Because if that's the only way we can get our money, that's how it will be. I've already said that they need to keep as much money on the site as possible, and start generating rake, which in turn raises capital.
Think of it this way, the site is likely VERY limited in operational funds atm. They need to start generating as much revenue as possible, as quickly as possible, so that they can actually have a budget to work with.
If they DIDN'T put some sort of safeguard in place, everyone would just withdraw, and FT wouild just fold up and die, this time for good.
It's a win-win situation, and I can safely assume that while they likely WILL have a playthrough requirement, they will also offer extra incentives such as an extra xx% of your balance or something.
I understand what you say, however I don't think they can, after all it is our money, the USA will be getting in full and there for so should we, no restrictions, its part of the deal with DOJ that they can cover the funds in full. I will be pissed off if they put a play-through on my money, even though I don't intend to withdraw it. To keep funds there they should offer a amazing offer, RB for ALL users for a start. I'm quite sure any withdraw will be very, very slow, and intended to be that way.
Exactly!
It's just common sense. They cannot possibly make us play Rake for our own money. They would be killing their own business venture right at the start.
IMO they WILL process withdrawals, and maybe even quickly I think, but they will give Bonuses and Promos up the Kazoo.
"... the USA will be getting in full and there for so should we, no restrictions..."
How idiotic would they be if the US players who cannot play on the site got their money, and their "clients", their income base, was pissed off right from the start?
It's not all that complicated....think like a businessman out to make money....
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If you ask me retribution what would i prefer, losing my money completely or having a chance at them with a specific playthrough i would go for the playthrough of course im not insane. But that idea doesnt seem logical to me if you ask me. And its simple. Here is an example. You owe me money, and in order to repay me you ask me for more money with the risk of course losing my capital and the new Funds?( lets say it like that Does it look sane to you
The win win situation i believe is one that you cant lose at the end. Can you guarantee me 100% that after such a deal i wont lose my money at all? Of course not. No one can.
And be careful im not whining here. The money i have in is a buy in for some players.
But think of those having thousands of dollars in, having to go with playthrough. Like Chartoule above whos talking about 8k.
With no doubt no matter whats been said here about security and stuff after the Grand reopen , i can almost guarantee that there will be players who would want their money and never stepped a foot there again.
Can you blame them? I cant.
The only sane thing for me as i said before is to not permit the cash outs at once or having a limit per month for example for cashing outs.
Now the revenue desnt concern me, its their problem not mine.
If the players funds were segragated as they should have been, you would be obliged to honor their cash outs and mine (with no playthrough) from the moment you reopen.
You are having difficulties? ok I can understand this for the obvious reasons. Tell me, that i will be able to cash out fully at the end of the year for example and i will gladly accept this, or put me in a queue, that works too.
But If you are planning to reopen with such conditions (playthrough) just pull the plug and let it die. Shock after shock wont help for ever
