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  19-Apr-12, 12:40   #1
For all those who claim Pstars is river rigged +3 
AlexSimion 
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So , I don't want to offend anyone with this thread , I made it because I'm sick and tired of those claiming that pokerstars is rigged , especially on the river , and "helping" the bigstack
So I'm currently in a 0.25 $ Sng , 90 players , 18 left , my position is 18/18 , blind is 100/200 , I'm struggeling with a 1600 stack in Sb position , no limpers , button player raises from 200 to 700 , I'm holding A 8 of diamonds , struggeling if I should play this hand , the average stack is 5000 , i decide to call , Bb player calls , flop comes 3 d A h j d , BB checks , button raises 800 , I'm pot commited , and best odds i could probably get , i reraise 900 , he calls , he shows an AK suited , Turn comes a 10 h , I'm thinking I'm out , river 8 s , and I'm jumping in my seat ( not really , but it's a good feeling , managing to get back into the game) , so , I managed to win as the short stacked , on the river , hope some (mascona) stop spamming in that useless "pokerstars rigged etc" thread.


Worship

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And the river saves me again , to make it short , I'm holding A A , raise 4x , BB raises all in , about 15 blinds , I call , he holds J J , river is a 9 3 J , Turn , 2 , River A :X , saved by the river , lucky I know ,
few minutes later , I'm holiding A K of hearts , Sb A J , 3x raise , he calls , Flop is Q h , A s , J h , i make a bet , he reraises me into all-in , and now I'm thinking , I can't fold this flop , also big pot , I call , Turn 3 h , there goes my flush Big Smile , river 2 d , and now I'm nr 1 with 10 players left Worship Worship

Edited by AlexSimion (Thursday, April 19, 2012 @ 13:13 GMT)


     
  19-Apr-12, 13:17   #2
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doomdy 

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+1 Thumbs Up for an anti rigged thread Worship

     
  19-Apr-12, 13:20   #3
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sadamman 

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Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship

     
  19-Apr-12, 14:13   #4
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michaelwilk 
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doesnt prove its not rigged river magic lol, I am by no means agreeing that these sites favour certain players but its as simple as this---create a system where the biggest fool to play fool hands will win lots.... Hence real poker players lose tons on the b******t hands yet the idiots who play the b******t hands have no chance of longterm success....

The Perfect System
Good player waiting on right cards will win sometimes (should be more often)
Bad players will win with s**t cards (shouldnt happen half as much as it does)
Both players even out as all the best hands in the world lose as much as they win and the losers who play retarded hands have no chance of creating an actual bankroll playing bs hands (always lose eventually)

     
  19-Apr-12, 14:13   #5
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noonlion 

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Posted by doomdy:
+1 Thumbs Up for an anti rigged thread Worship


-1 for raising the subject of rigging at all though

Big Smile

     
  19-Apr-12, 16:07   #6
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photolong 

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hmmm whatever about rigged or not rigged ... terrible play to flat call a raise with A,8 when you have 1600 chips ... thats a fold or a instant reraise all in pre ( my case would be a instant re all in) ... if BB hadnt much of a hand he probably fold if he a bit loose he might just call as well making your odds of winning hand less
Get them in when your short .... its a good habit to get into ...

     
  19-Apr-12, 16:09   #7
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AlexSimion 
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Posted by photolong:
hmmm whatever about rigged or not rigged ... terrible play to flat call a raise with A,8 when you have 1600 chips ... thats a fold or a instant reraise all in pre ( my case would be a instant re all in) ... if BB hadnt much of a hand he probably fold if he a bit loose he might just call as well making your odds of winning hand less
Get them in when your short .... its a good habit to get into ...

or maybe just call , see a flop , if it's no good just fold , and still have , 4.5 X blind ? especially being close to the bubble.

     
  19-Apr-12, 17:20   #8
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photolong 

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no no no ...... you should not call to see a flop .... if you dont want to bubble then you should fold ... better chance of cashing ... if all your trying to do is not bubble you should be just folding to that kind of raise.
you can not call practically half you chips if you think you could be folding a bad flop after a raise like that ... its simple fold pre or all in no other choice.

     
  19-Apr-12, 17:53   #9
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B1gfoot 

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Agree with photolong, bad play.
I don't want to offend, but you claim the river is not rigged by posting two hands were you are behind when AI and win on the river, You know they call it RiverStars right?
Other than that, if people want to find excuses for there bad play, let them.

     
  19-Apr-12, 18:28   #10
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AlexSimion 
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Posted by photolong:
no no no ...... you should not call to see a flop .... if you dont want to bubble then you should fold ... better chance of cashing ... if all your trying to do is not bubble you should be just folding to that kind of raise.
you can not call practically half you chips if you think you could be folding a bad flop after a raise like that ... its simple fold pre or all in no other choice.

You still don't get my point , had less than 10 bb , he made a raise, i decided to play that hand , what was the point to go all-in ??? tell me please, your point , all in or fold , I wanted to play the hand , I called his raise, why risk my tournament , when I could simply see the flop , and then choose what action to take ... I know u ppl like to play by the book , but analise the situation.... WHY RISK THE ENTIRE TOURNAMENT , by going all-in , when I could call , and then see if I have a chance on winning.

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And you're also missing the point of this thread......

     
  19-Apr-12, 18:52   #11
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by AlexSimion:
also missing the point of this thread......

the person you tried to send a message with this thread is just trolling because PS took his tickets from some qualifiers.
the more attention he gets, more he'll post in that thread.
best way to stop a troll is stop feeding it Smile

     
  19-Apr-12, 19:40   #12
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DaCapo71 
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Stars is rigged, rigged, rigged. River joke room, i saw it since 5 years. And i read it in any forums and hear it from all my friends. Everybody know it and so it is true!

     
  19-Apr-12, 20:50   #13
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kioshcboy 
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lol...alexsimion...u say that Pstars river is not rigged...but think about that...how was the river card for your oponent?AK vs A8s...river is an 8...of course that the river is bad for someones and good for others...it depends on which side are u more often...

     
  19-Apr-12, 21:04   #14
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AlexSimion 
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Posted by kioshcboy:
lol...alexsimion...u say that Pstars river is not rigged...but think about that...how was the river card for your oponent?AK vs A8s...river is an 8...of course that the river is bad for someones and good for others...it depends on which side are u more often...

Damn , I've been invaded by rigtards , if you would've read everything you would have seen that I also had a flush draw , so I had pretty good odds of winning that pot , but that's besides the point , don't want this thread to become a copy-cat of that useless rigtard thread , so please Administrator , if you read this , close it before it becomes a ticking bomb...

     
  19-Apr-12, 21:37   #15
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doomdy 

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Posted by AlexSimion:
Posted by photolong:
no no no ...... you should not call to see a flop .... if you dont want to bubble then you should fold ... better chance of cashing ... if all your trying to do is not bubble you should be just folding to that kind of raise.
you can not call practically half you chips if you think you could be folding a bad flop after a raise like that ... its simple fold pre or all in no other choice.

You still don't get my point , had less than 10 bb , he made a raise, i decided to play that hand , what was the point to go all-in ??? tell me please, your point , all in or fold , I wanted to play the hand , I called his raise, why risk my tournament , when I could simply see the flop , and then choose what action to take ... I know u ppl like to play by the book , but analise the situation.... WHY RISK THE ENTIRE TOURNAMENT , by going all-in , when I could call , and then see if I have a chance on winning..


Its fold or shove simple, call a raise isnt an option its the worse thing you can do.

     
  19-Apr-12, 22:01   #16
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IslandJack 

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AK losing to A8 on the river?
How can you post this as
Posted by AlexSimion:
Posted by kioshcboy:
lol...alexsimion...u say that Pstars river is not rigged...but think about that...how was the river card for your oponent?AK vs A8s...river is an 8...of course that the river is bad for someones and good for others...it depends on which side are u more often...

Damn , I've been invaded by rigtards , if you would've read everything you would have seen that I also had a flush draw , so I had pretty good odds of winning that pot , but that's besides the point , don't want this thread to become a copy-cat of that useless rigtard thread , so please Administrator , if you read this , close it before it becomes a ticking bomb...


Too late!
Sounds like the river struck again. Big Smile

Ak losing to A8 on the river?
PERFECT Rigtard argument.
That is exactly what they claim.
That guy with AK is now posting all over his forum about RiverStars. Blink

Besides that, I side with the Regs on this thread:

photolong:
"no no no ...... you should not call to see a flop .... if you dont want to bubble then you should fold ... better chance of cashing ... if all your trying to do is not bubble you should be just folding to that kind of raise.
you can not call practically half you chips if you think you could be folding a bad flop after a raise like that ... its simple fold pre or all in no other choice. "

+1 Thumbs Up

btw, it's not a "by the book" kind of thing, it's just common sense really.
Sorry.

     
  20-Apr-12, 06:56   #17
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Macubaas 
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Every player that takes a bad beat there is another player that got lucky basically, so in these situations you had luck...

The bad thing is that sometimes people don't see their own mistakes and think they have bad luck, but in fact their game need to be improved.

     
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