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Joined: Jan '12
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i call because the pot is big and you got a nice hand, but i dont know that he got a st8 or something because you allwas pay the raise, youu should chek on the turn or reraise on the flop to get info..... but i donk know... jjeje
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I don't play HU games so don't have any experience with that gameplay. It's certain he has a hand otherwise he wouldn't have made a check/raise twice. The hands that beat you are T8, 54 He could also have a 9 is his hand but chances are small More likely he has 77,66 or an overpair.
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I would not describe myself as an experienced HU player, but the lesson I would take from your hand is this. If I am going to invest money to play a pot I play to win. For me 9-5 is a hand that is more like to get me into trouble if I hit and that trouble is magnified if I have only called the big blind allowing him to check. And then I am left open to an innitial agression bet where in most cases I would need to fold. Your hand is the perfect example of this as Arithatyk? has already set out the number of hands you now had to worry about.
I don't know what you think your table image was but for me if I chose to play this hand and i hadn't developed a maniac table image, I think, even though its only 9-5, I would raise 3x -5x pre-flop. Knowing what you know about this player a call or re-raise then would give valuable info as to what you might be up against post flop.
A blind steal with 9-5os is quite satisfying and much easier on the nerves!!!!
Having said that, if in this position I think there would be one more consideration for me in deciding whether to call or fold. It is a match and very early on in round 1. Your worst case scenario is that you basically reverse positions. A loss on the hand would not cripple you in the round and seeing his cards might provide valuable info for later. Plus the trip 9's gives you a fair shot at ending round 1 right there and get that information for round two at the same time.
I voted fold by accident as thats what I likely would have done pre-flop but on your final case scenario I think I am calling.
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Posted by JackalDFL:
I think, even though its only 9-5, I would raise 3x -5x pre-flop. Knowing what you know about this player a call or re-raise then would give valuable info as to what you might be up against post flop.
5x with 95? To steal 20 chips? Do you think about it befrore writing?Only reason I called pre was because of dinamic of the game and because I like to play post flop because I have edge on most of my opponents. He did lot of limping himself and I let him to do that. It was kinda call-check-check-check-bet-fold game all the way. Ant thats mean reason why I folded it on river.
And yes, why you need info where you at with 95? You know that you are in s**t, you dont need raise to tell you that...
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[ 5x with 95? To steal 20 chips? Do you think about it befrore writing?Only reason I called pre was because of dinamic of the game and because I like to play post flop because I have edge on most of my opponents. He did lot of limping himself and I let him to do that. It was kinda call-check-check-check-bet-fold game all the way. Ant thats mean reason why I folded it on river.
And yes, why you need info where you at with 95? You know that you are in s**t, you dont need raise to tell you that... [/QUOTE]
Ya jov...i did think about.....like I said...if I was to enter the pot I would enter to win it, not to just "see what happens" (or see how much sh#t I can get into...lol) and this raise not only puts me in a better position wrt information but also puts me in a better position to carry through on a bluff.
In answer to your last question, I would say it is the very fact that you know you are in sh#t with 9-5 in the first place that requires you to press to get a feel of where you stand up front in relation to his cards. You had about 400 chips in the pot at the turn, you could be drawing dead, you could be way ahead. You called two check-raises, apart from a 9, was there anything else you were hoping to hit that would have answered your question as to whether to call his all in on the river?
Still...there is just way too much upside to fold....pot odds are more than double....info on the player and a chance to take the round...
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Posted by SuperNoob:
Posted by Arithmajik: Hey Jovi,
Did you ever end up revealing what it was that you did and the result of those actions? I know I'm curious to know if you laid it down or if you showed down, and if the latter what did the guy have? You're a good player so hopefully I'll learn something.
looks like u missed this --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
acivoj pfc: folds [5c 9d] Uncalled bet (675) returned to HHCE HHCE collected 784 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 784 | Rake 0 Board [7d 9c 6s 9s 3c] Seat 1: acivoj pfc (button) (small blind) folded on the River Seat 2: HHCE (big blind) collected (784) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
because this is heads up. calling i think is more better because you will bust him if he is bluffing and even if he wins you still have chips to play.because he is passive, I think he has strong hand because he min raise on the flop and turn but you cannot fold your hand because you call the min raise on the turn. Shoving on the turn i think i will do...
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Posted by jovicakralj: Opponent: limping almost every button, sometimes Cbet, rarely re raises, generally passive. Not doing anything strange but its still early stage of match.
PokerStars Hand #80249167732: Tournament #559015717, $14.29+$0.71 USD Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2012/05/11 2:22:06 CET [2012/05/10 20:22:06 ET] Table '559015717 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: acivoj pfc (1933 in chips) Seat 2: HHCE (1067 in chips) acivoj pfc: posts small blind 15 HHCE: posts big blind 30 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to acivoj pfc [5c 9d] acivoj pfc: calls 15 HHCE: checks *** FLOP *** [7d 9c 6s] HHCE: checks acivoj pfc: bets 45 HHCE: raises 45 to 90 acivoj pfc: calls 45 *** TURN *** [7d 9c 6s] HHCE: checks acivoj pfc: bets 136 HHCE: raises 136 to 272 acivoj pfc: calls 136 *** RIVER *** [7d 9c 6s 9s] HHCE: bets 675 and is all-in
I would call here because there is too much money in bank and you make here value call ! BTW I have not read all the coments just say what have you done?
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I think its a fold, from what you have said he is passive player so he has to be strong to check raise on rainbow board on the flop im thinking set(66 77)or 8 10( nuts). He then 3bets you on the turn which leads me to think he has 66 77. you fold?
5x with 95? To steal 20 chips? Do you think about it befrore writing?Only reason I called pre was because of dinamic of the game and because I like to play post flop because I have edge on most of my opponents. He did lot of limping himself and I let him to do that. It was kinda call-check-check-check-bet-fold game all the way. Ant thats mean reason why I folded it on river.
