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  16-May-12, 04:02   #1
Micros versus Midrange Buyins 0 
Greenmohave 

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Recently I've been playing more of the $5.50 to $11.00 level buyin games. Tournaments and SnG's. I was wondering what some of you Mobsters think about the level of play between the lower buyins $1 to $5 versus $5 to $15.
I mean since moving up I see a lot less (don't want to say donk players) reckless play. It seems players actually have good hands when they play and, instead of seeing so many players jumping allin with their AK, AQ or AJ they play their hands out, if they hit on the flop they play if not, they're out. I generally have always played that way, but played in the micros so long it felt as if I've started playing a complete different game.

I guess what I'm asking is, do you feel the same about this and recommend that I stay playing at the midrange level versus the micro or $1 to $5 level? The BR is stable for the most part!

     
  16-May-12, 04:50   #2
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doomdy 

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I never saw any difference SNG/MTT at $5 versus upto $20 level, even higher the donks keep running.
At PKR the level that starts with a little better players and less donks is $50 and higher, but only a little cos also there the fishbowl is full.

     
  16-May-12, 05:12   #3
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jessthehuman 

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Posted by doomdy:
I never saw any difference SNG/MTT at $5 versus upto $20 level, even higher the donks keep running.
At PKR the level that starts with a little better players and less donks is $50 and higher, but only a little cos also there the fishbowl is full.


I don't know.. I mean, I think you're probably just being flippant..

I DO see a difference. <$5 I find I can open-shove AA/KK from EP and happily get 1 or two callers almost every time.. And pre-flop betting patterns often end with surprising results - hands like A10 5betting their way allin etc.

Also - anyone competent with MTT (particularly on PKR) can pretty quickly move up to the $10-$30 buyin range - so you do get a lot more regs playing - and they definitely aren't all fish/donks.

I think there really is a lot more crap players when the buyin is under $10.

     
  16-May-12, 05:52   #4
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doomdy 

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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by doomdy:
I never saw any difference SNG/MTT at $5 versus upto $20 level, even higher the donks keep running.
At PKR the level that starts with a little better players and less donks is $50 and higher, but only a little cos also there the fishbowl is full.


I don't know.. I mean, I think you're probably just being flippant..


I searched the word ''flippant'' cos didnt know, didnt know it was even english Worship
Anyway trully great word lmao Worship

Back too topic....

Well to be honest moslty of my games are played $5 range MTT and $10 range SNG, did many SNG buyin range $20/$50/$150 but (mostly) were phases so....
Did not played too many MTT range $20/$50, problably a 50ish so....

Anyway YES there is a difference between range $5 and $20 and higher, better players average and offcourse still lots of donks.
I guess when your winning longrun on $5s you also win longrun on $10s and problably on $20s too.

Note: TheDom needs to step up MTT but guess he's a chicken Evil

     
  16-May-12, 06:36   #5
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jessthehuman 

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Posted by doomdy:

I guess when your winning longrun on $5s you also win longrun on $10s and problably on $20s too.


Agreed!

Posted by doomdy:
Note: TheDom needs to step up MTT but guess he's a chicken Evil

Double agreed.

Posted by doomdy:
Anyway trully great word lmao


Haha - yeah, it is pretty good. I use it sparingly.

     
  16-May-12, 14:35   #6
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
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The trick is to pay attention to the type of opponents you have. Having the chance in some rooms to look for the history of a nickname, one should go for that when playing those midrange levels. The most regular players will definitely be the toughest ones. If you find some of them in the internet lists, that is good info to know too when facing them at the tables. In my opinion, those with more activity will be the most difficult to play against.

     
  16-May-12, 15:34   #7
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
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My experience , generally they play more carefully at medium buy in. If your bankroll good enough is good play there, more enjoyed. If you hesitate why did you not try satellite $1.1 to get ticket $11, and play $11 buy in. Try and good luck. I wish you more improve play at medium Smile

     
  16-May-12, 19:39   #8
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
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I do not play sng that often or mtt for that matter but i mainly play cash games.

And i can tell you for sure that if you want to play poker, not bingo you should play at least NL/PL 10, so yes on higher limits the game is better Blink

     
  16-May-12, 19:56   #9
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Greenmohave 

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I never have played MTT's so I really don't know how well I'd do. I guess I'm so new to poker as for the overall game that I've stuck to SnG's and tournaments. I actually need to read up on MTT's since I don't know exactly what they're about. I know! Silly that I've been playing for about a year and a half , but don't know anything about MTT's. This could be a better way to go based on the replies! Thanks for the input as always and Good Luck to All!

     
  16-May-12, 20:29   #10
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IslandJack 

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Posted by Greenmohave:
I never have played MTT's so I really don't know how well I'd do. I guess I'm so new to poker as for the overall game that I've stuck to SnG's and tournaments. I actually need to read up on MTT's since I don't know exactly what they're about. I know! Silly that I've been playing for about a year and a half , but don't know anything about MTT's. This could be a better way to go based on the replies! Thanks for the input as always and Good Luck to All!


MTT are "Multi Table Tournaments".
STT (Single Table Tournaments)

It's just a term thrown around to mean Tournaments in general, even small 2-table ones.
18 and over player SnG's could also be called MTT's, but people use the term generally for open Tournaments where as many people can sign up as is allowed by the site in that game.
So MTT basically mean tournaments where there is no fixed number of entrants.

So outside of SnG's up to 180 people, you've been playing Tournaments. Big Smile
Hope that answers your question unless I completely misunderstood? Confused

     
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