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Maybe I wouldn't have called the reraise from that guy... I know that you read him very good, but that wouldn't be enough for me... But if you were confident, it's ok!
The flop bet is a regular bet, which means that he has a little pair or has nothing at all... Then the bet in the turn is the same. The one in the river is an overbet for me... If he has a nice hand, would just bet a little bit in order to get a reraise and then allin, at least that's my style.
You didn't play it wrong, but it's a little bit risky...
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There is really only 2 possible hands that he might have: overpair or ace high with strong second kicker. And if he really has overpair why so aggressive, because worse hands probably wont call and better not fold. So there is really only 1 chance, and that is Ax. Stupid to represent trips, classic mistake.
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Posted by jessthehuman: I'm sorry - I don't like the way you played the first hand at all. Calling 22 for bluff-catching value on a paired board is really marginal.. what happens if the river double-pairs the board and counterfeits your 2s? You'd be screwed.. Plus - there's plenty of his bluff that you don't even beat. Give up on the flop IMO.
Yes - you made money here - but I think in the long run, your line is wasn't very profitable - If you think he's bluffing often enough - maybe re-raise the flop or something (add some fold equity to your hand). I don't like your passive line - calling-down your whole stack to the river on a pair of 2's on a paired board.
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Posted by T3ddyKGB: good read or not...i would say this is a great example of two donks lol
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Posted by Battle87: well to make it clear this something I would normally not do, I was pretty confindent on my read.
Even a "good read" only puts a range of cards to your opponent.. You would have to include hands that beat you in that range.. And even if you weigh his hand heavily towards to picture cards, your equity is only just better than 50% on the flop.. Your line is terrible - flat-calling the whole way - even though any paint will confuse you and if the board double-pairs your hand is utterly destroyed.
Posted by Battle87:
And tbh teddy I don't normally play this donkish . Don't think a donk can end up in 6th place in the hot 16.50 dollar tournament or win the 256 cap knock out heads up tourny 3 times and came second twice.
Of course a donkey can. I'm not saying you are (we all play some hands badly - thats why its good to post HH). But it's a well-known fact that a donk can bink a tournament.. they just have to get lucky...
+1 to this. The only real value in small-mid PP is set mining. After the flop came, you have to lay it down. Even if he's a turbo donk that bluffs 90% of the time, all you're ever beating with 22 is complete air. And as said, if the board double pairs, you're left with nothing but 2 pair with a 2 kicker.
I'n not against playing 22, in fact I'll even raise UTG with it, but again the only real value you get is from sets, and even when you DO hit a set, there's always the chance someone else could have a bigger set or a re-draw.
As for your line, it's horrible, Cold-calling to the river with nothing but bottom pair is absolutely horrible, especially the river call. Sure it worked THIS time, but with 22 you've got SO little equity as it is.
When villain 3-bet pre, you should have laid it down. Your absolutely dominated by the vast majority of his 3-bet range, even if he's hyper aggressive, and dominated or a flip against pretty much the rest of his range.
