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  29-May-12, 06:46   #1
Poker it is an exact science or depends on the chance! 0 
foliflorin 
Joined: Jun '11
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I believe keep more of chance if you play in a tournament of 200 players, before the first 20 shall be science Cool , but on the first must have chance that there will be difference!! Aww crap!

Edited by foliflorin (Tuesday, May 29, 2012 @ 06:52 GMT)


     
  29-May-12, 07:52   #2
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Macubaas 
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This has been discussed so many times over the time mate and i think we cal all agree that is both...

Your example is not that good because just one games doesn't really mean anything on long term Blink

     
  29-May-12, 09:15   #3
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shokaku 

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Poker is neither science nor chance. It is art. At least no limit/pot limit games are. Fixed limit is more about math, while donkaments involve a lot of luck.

     
  29-May-12, 09:16   #4
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
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Not to sure on OPs english / meaning.

But yeah - as Macubaas says - it's been discussed a lot before. It's pretty well observable fact that there is a positive relationship between skill and sample size.

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Posted by shokaku:
Poker is neither science nor chance. It is art.


What does that even mean ? Just sounds kinda wanky tbh.

     
  29-May-12, 09:22   #5
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shokaku 

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Posted by jessthehuman:
What does that even mean ?

One has to be creative. Just look at that Dwan guy.

     
  29-May-12, 09:55   #6
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jessthehuman 

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Posted by shokaku:
Posted by jessthehuman:
What does that even mean ?

One has to be creative. Just look at that Dwan guy.


I think I would probably be convinced that live poker is more of an art.. Although even then, you could consider 'reading people' a science just as much as an art.

However, I would have to say online poker, IMHO, is more of a science/chance game (more science: maths, as the sample size increases).

     
  29-May-12, 11:01   #7
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
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Random cards gives poker that notion of game played with the need of a chance. Now, one just has to know how to use that chance. You have both sides of the coin in your hand. It’s you who decide: to bet hard when you have good hand is telling others what you have in your hand; to bet hard when you have bad hand is telling others what you would like to have in your hand and hope others don’t have it; to call when you have good hand is hiding from others what you have in your hand; to call when you have bad hand is hoping for the table to bring what you need to win. Chance is everywhere: for you and for your opponents.

     
  29-May-12, 13:31   #8
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jomull57 

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Location: United Kingdom
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has to be both skill and luck. BUT as the old saying goes you make your own luck . the pros cant be that lucky to win all the time that's where the skill is . THE BEST CARDS DON'T ALL WAYS WIN .
unless you have a showdown.

     
  29-May-12, 13:31   #9
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
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poker is not exact science ( if you mean 1+1 = 2, the answer always 2 - exact, poker is not always ). but poker is science . Chance ? always ! since we still alive Smile Smile life can not separate from chance and luck. why you Aww crap! Aww crap! ? frustrating ? play more and read poker book, forum etc and you frustrating will decrease Big Smile Big Smile Good luck

     
  29-May-12, 14:15   #10
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0HighTimes0 

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Posted by Serpang:
poker is not exact science ( if you mean 1+1 = 2, the answer always 2 - exact, poker is not always ).


1+1 = 2 ( 1 (Skill) + 1 (Luck) = 2 (lose/Win))
or
1(male/Skill) + 1(female/Luck) = 3 (child/Win) (reproduction maths/science)

(Just a thought (looking out side the square or circle lol ) Big Smile
All Thee Best Thumbs Up

     
  29-May-12, 20:58   #11
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jessthehuman 

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Posted by Serpang:
poker is not exact science ( if you mean 1+1 = 2, the answer always 2 - exact, poker is not always ).



but poker is 2+2 ??

     
  29-May-12, 21:39   #12
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
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Poker is about skill and chance. You use your skill to make the right calls and outplay your opponents based on what you can see, but need the chance element based on the turn of the cards. Simple really.LOL

     
  31-May-12, 02:52   #13
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uhhcallmi 

Joined: Mar '12
Location: Netherlands
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1+1 = more then 2... anyone disagree??


     
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