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These players are f**king doing my head in atm, even waiting for a big hand won't work for me. I keep running into unavoidable situations, where I'm miles ahead. Every f**king hand they keep sucking out on me. I'm gunna deposit on PKR. If its still happening there online poker can f**k off. Its following me like a plague.
------------ Just want to make it clear, this doesn't mean I think its rigged. I think its not rigged, the thing is, this type of play you will very rarely find in live poker. Plus when its live and I instashove looking as cool as a cucumber, its obvious whats happening. But online you can't see who you're playing so there's no respect, hence the bad plays. Even if thats not fully the reason if someone played live like that it wouldn't be long before everyone is kicking off, another reason why these idiots play the way they do, online but not live.
------------ The way I think about it is, they're idiotic cowards making moves they're only comfortable making hiding behind their computer in the comfort of their homes. I swear I'm gunna turn into hellmuth lol.
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Posted by sadamman:
------------ Just want to make it clear, this doesn't mean I think its rigged. I think its not rigged, the thing is, this type of play you will very rarely find in live poker. Plus when its live and I instashove looking as cool as a cucumber, its obvious whats happening. But online you can't see who you're playing so there's no respect, hence the bad plays. Even if thats not fully the reason if someone played live like that it wouldn't be long before everyone is kicking off, another reason why these idiots play the way they do, online but not live.
------------ The way I think about it is, they're idiotic cowards making moves they're only comfortable making hiding behind their computer in the comfort of their homes. I swear I'm gunna turn into hellmuth lol.
You never see that play live because everyone at the table would mock the living day lights out of them - but behind a computer its a screename thats all, so it's not such a big deal to look like an idiot.
They only exist in smaller toruney buy ins and can be exploited.
The worst thing is when you have say 10:10 and you know the donkers shoving you all in, then someone else shoves as well.
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Let them shove. Call 'em with big hands and double your stack. As long as you don't lose your nerve they make a mistake by going all-in all the time when the blinds are still low.
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Posted by shokaku: Let them shove. Call 'em with big hands and double your stack. As long as you don't lose your nerve they make a mistake by going all-in all the time when the blinds are still low.
I like your tactic, I did most of the time. Just didn't play it when I was on tilt .Usually working well, not 100% of course but the result make me glad. The key is not being TILT and patient.
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Yeah man that's what I was saying, and yes they can be exploited. But I swear, whats happening to me is getting ridiculous. People go on about 10k hand sample being enough to prove its rigged. My last 10-20k have been nothing but me getting sucked out on. I've got aj, they've got a3, I've got Qj they've got Q9, I've got Qj they've got j9, ive got a9 theyve got a5, I've got 1010 theyve got a random ace or kj, I've got jj, again random ace or jk, I've got QQ, I think you can see the pattern emerging here, and it keeps happening to me.
------------ Btw these are shove or fold situations for me, I don't get involved in unnecessary conflicts. Thats why its pissing me off, its a shove or fold situation, it gives me a dream showdown, then boom...lucky fuckwits just keep hitting.
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its just happend to me today,i came on tournament latte,about half hour,this guy play every hand all inn,he have 13k,i start with 3000 chips,after 5 hands he still be chipleader and kick off players with stupid cards,then i play all inn with my Q8 vs his JJ,and i win...after 3-4 i get AK and him still goo all inn every single hand,i goo all inn ofcourse against 95...and on board came 995...after that he have over 24000 chips... its destroy my all day...but s..t happends
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I know what you mean! The one's who go allin with a 2,4 and destroy your AK. It happened just a little while ago. then laughs at you for losing. I want to ring their kneck!
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True what someone said above.. they can be a pain in the *ss true.. but i believe the only way to beat them with a good margin is to wait for solid hands.. still you can lose ofc but .. it's the safest way.
I play more cash lately so you don't find much of the "all in" kind of agro donk mostly the raise everyhand steal blind kind of donk which can be quite annoying when u don't pick a hand bigger than 8+ for 10 hands straight.. btw just played a dude like that today he stole like 5 blinds from me or something i was starting to get a bit frustated then i picked a hand i hit and he keeps betting like the naab he is so i trapped him recovered the blinds and made a nice profit.
Anyways if your talking about mtt most likely freeroll action ye.. it's kinda harder coz they will go all in everyhand and any hand can be beaten in that .. my advice is go play for money they won't do that moves that much. The other day i saw a dude going to 40k+ chips with all in everyhand
Call with marginal hands every shove because you will be ahead before the flop.if he wins look for a new game.If you win put the pressure on him by shoving strong hands.... pre flop all in is a coin flip.you will win around 70% even with a strong hand...you still have 30% loosing percentage...
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well it depends from the situation- sometimes these donkoholics are quite a gold mine, you just have to be brave enough to attack them- think of the situation in this way, if you will sit at the table for a longer time with them- you will have to take the action at some point, and kk or aa might never come up? so just go for it and hope for the best
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Posted by ayaraled: Call with marginal hands every shove because you will be ahead before the flop.if he wins look for a new game.If you win put the pressure on him by shoving strong hands.... pre flop all in is a coin flip.you will win around 70% even with a strong hand...you still have 30% loosing percentage...
Why we need to call with marginal hands?!!! Just for go 40%-60% or 60%-40% until one go out? Is not a good idea call with hands as JTs,QT, etc.. vs and agro alliner. Just strong hands, and if we go out with QQ vs A2o.. bad luck.
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Posted by Chartoule:
Posted by ayaraled: Call with marginal hands every shove because you will be ahead before the flop.if he wins look for a new game.If you win put the pressure on him by shoving strong hands.... pre flop all in is a coin flip.you will win around 70% even with a strong hand...you still have 30% loosing percentage...
Why we need to call with marginal hands?!!! Just for go 40%-60% or 60%-40% until one go out? Is not a good idea call with hands as JTs,QT, etc.. vs and agro alliner. Just strong hands, and if we go out with QQ vs A2o.. bad luck.
Exactly.
There's absolutely no need to suddenly widen your range - you'd never shove AI with marginal hands in any situation so why this one? You fall prey to the donkers strategy.
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So weird, i just posted above on this thread yesterday and today i got a bad beat from a donk on 888poker on omaha cash...
I had AKJT with a A suit, flop comes KK5, he bets pot, i reraise and i put him all in. He calls with a 7 high flush suit(i had the nuts flush and trips K), the turn is a 7(he had pocket 77) and he makes a full
agro donkers 
its destroy my all day...but s..t happends 
