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  9-Jun-12, 16:31   #1
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Chartoule 
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 1261
Hi guys!!

Yesterday i played 300 hands in NL25FR. And was incredible, NOW i can say that YES spanish (as a group) are the worst players in the world. Is like when i begin to play in FTP (3-4 years ago) or worst. I won 70€ playing 6 tables in one hour, almost 10bb/100 playing 15/12 being called with hands as T3o, A2s in a 4bet hand, 50bb reraise bluffs with air, etc...

Hope goverment changes quickly the way of pay taxes. Lot of money is waiting for someone with a little of good poker.

     
  9-Jun-12, 16:59   #2
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 6197
Can i join?????

     
  9-Jun-12, 17:06   #3
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
Sounds really good mate, continue to play as long as you can and make some nice profits Smile

Lets hope that the taxes that your gov will apply won't be that high Smile

     
  9-Jun-12, 21:47   #4
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DaMessiah666 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Spain
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 1487
Posted by doomdy:
Can i join?????

Yes, there is no problem. I don't know how much money you must pay of taxes though.

@Chartoule: I don't understand why are you playing in .es. It's not clear how we must pay taxes. It seems that we only pay for winnings not for loss. Does it really worth it for you?? I don't think so. Be careful or you may have an unpleasant surprise next your in your tax declaration.

     
  10-Jun-12, 09:34   #5
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ayaraled 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 544
wow big win. I did not know that about spanish player....

     
  10-Jun-12, 09:52   #6
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 6197
I am still crying the frogs left, now the spanish, wos next?
Portugese giv me great rewards atm, they keep in? Sad

     
  10-Jun-12, 11:51   #7
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pokerminde 
Joined: Jun '11
Location: Lithuania
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 59
Posted by Chartoule:
Hi guys!!

Yesterday i played 300 hands in NL25FR. And was incredible, NOW i can say that YES spanish (as a group) are the worst players in the world. Is like when i begin to play in FTP (3-4 years ago) or worst. I won 70� playing 6 tables in one hour, almost 10bb/100 playing 15/12 being called with hands as T3o, A2s in a 4bet hand, 50bb reraise bluffs with air, etc...

Hope goverment changes quickly the way of pay taxes. Lot of money is waiting for someone with a little of good poker.



Hi What is deposit options in pokerstars.es?
Is it possible to deposit from netteler or just bank transfer?
I want these money too Dollar Dollar Dollar Big Smile Big Smile

     
  10-Jun-12, 11:59   #8
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1477
Posted by doomdy:
Can i join?????


Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile I hope so. Let me know if yes. Good for your bankroll Chartoule !! Do you ever try USA poker site ( legal by Gov - USA )? They use member system. You should try if you want to play against better player.

Edited by Serpang (Sunday, June 10, 2012 @ 12:04 GMT)


     
  10-Jun-12, 13:48   #9
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10039
Exploit the current system as much as you can and keep that bankroll growing.
It doesnt matter which ethnicity you play against, as long as you win money Smile
Which is the purpose of any poker player.

     
  10-Jun-12, 14:20   #10
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DaMessiah666 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Spain
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 1487
Posted by pokerminde:
in pokerstars.es?
Is it possible to deposit from netteler or just bank transfer?

Are you kidding me??? Do you think because it's in Spain they give you chips for 2 sheeps and a cow??

     
  10-Jun-12, 14:31   #11
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Redvulture61 
Joined: Jan '12
Location: Australia
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 155
Are your games ring fenced which means you can only play with other Spanish players or can you still play on the main site in the events like the Sunday million from pokerstars.es? Just wondering i know someone from Belgium who has to play on the BG site but still play in all the events offered on the .com site.

     
  10-Jun-12, 15:04   #12
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DaMessiah666 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Spain
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 1487
Posted by Redvulture61:
... can you still play on the main site in the events like the Sunday million from pokerstars.es?

Our "Sunday Million" is called "Sunday Special" and it's a joke. 100€ buyin and 25.000€ guaranteed. My good, what did we do to deserve that?? Aww crap!

     
  10-Jun-12, 15:07   #13
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pokerminde 
Joined: Jun '11
Location: Lithuania
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 59
Posted by DaMessiah666:
Posted by pokerminde:
in pokerstars.es?
Is it possible to deposit from netteler or just bank transfer?

Are you kidding me??? Do you think because it's in Spain they give you chips for 2 sheeps and a cow??


How many chips can i got for cow? Big Smile Question Big Smile
I asked because deposit to pokerstars.fr from netteler i can, but withdraw NO Sad
I found out that with pokerstars.es is diferent Thumbs Up

     
  10-Jun-12, 18:20   #14
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DaMessiah666 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Spain
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 1487
Posted by pokerminde:
How many chips can i got for cow? Big Smile Question Big Smile
I asked because deposit to pokerstars.fr from netteler i can, but withdraw NO Sad
I found out that with pokerstars.es is diferent Thumbs Up

Well ... I don't really know because I haven't create or migrate my account yet. I suppose there won't be any problem to deposit and withdraw with common e-wallets like neteller but I'm not sure. I don't suggest you to send them an email because now they are quite busy. I sent them one 5 days ago and no response yet. Well ... just a ... "we are considering your email and thanks for your patiente".

     
  11-Jun-12, 08:24   #15
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Chartoule 
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 1261
Hi guys!!

Sorry for not post until today Big Smile. Weekend, you know...

@DaMessiah666: I´m not go to play more, of course. But i want my account created and with some money (i deposited 150€ Blink. The verification process go ok, by the way. Tip for you, DON´T MIGRATE your account. If you have money in the .com site try to cashout talking with support.

@ Not spanish mobsters: You can create an account in. es sites but unfortunetely only to playmoney. In a first read of the new law i understand that not spanish players can play for money, but i was wrong.


Well now i have 220€ in my Pokerstars.es account and will be there for looooong time Smile

     
  11-Jun-12, 10:56   #16
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4764
So, what at first site looked like terrible news for spanish players ended up being a very good opportunity for the good ones. After the storm comes the sunrise, it's always that way, where many only see disgrace, others find hope for a better future!

     
  11-Jun-12, 11:55   #17
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Redvulture61 
Joined: Jan '12
Location: Australia
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 155
Can people from other countries play on the site?

     
  11-Jun-12, 12:10   #18
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8643
i'm not sure about the tax issue, but let's say you win big, and then lose big to some unknown account which happens to belong to some tramp, and in reality this is your cover up account? btw can you do player to player transfers between pokerstars.es and pokerstars.com? good luck with the fish Thumbs Up

     
  11-Jun-12, 18:02   #19
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DaMessiah666 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Spain
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 1487
Posted by Chartoule:
Tip for you, DON'T MIGRATE your account.

Thanks mate, that was the first thing I thought. I don't want me to pay taxes for my last 10 years playing in Pokerstars.com! Besides, Pokerstars.es will likely be fined because Spanish laws were very clear: migrations are not allowed.

It's hard to wait without playing poker but ... I can't play because I can't pay the taxes!

     
  12-Jun-12, 08:51   #20
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Chartoule 
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 1261
I have good feelings about taxes, DaMessiah666.

Looking for the web i find that in the next mounth will be some meetings (sites, schools and player´s societies) with the regulators. And all want the same, taxes as the rest of EU regulated markets.

Hope soon all be fine, and we can comeback to tables.

     
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