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Ok, here it is, posted it allready in Jovi's stake thread, i am thinking of a stake offer to help 1 person (if it turns out to be nice maybe i can do more). I am looking for a person prevered in a poor country where average income are very low. For example i know in many Asian countrys monthly income like $300 is very very much, with that your a king problably. Anyway, i am helping with a startroll (between $20 and $40/$50) and coaching, all for free offcourse. I only want a serieus player, its to give ''you'' a better life (hopefully), so feed back allways and allways (feedback to me and also to this forum). If things turn out right and i am a good coach maybe and hopefully in 6 months we have a winning player which earns like $150/$200 a month. But only with perfect dedication offcourse.
What am i looking for?
Man/woman doesnt matter. You must run a pokerclient without any problems so an ok computer and healthy internetconnection is a must. I want a good bonus sideways (rakeback) so 1 hour playing poker isnt enough, i mean you must have time for it, the more hours you play the more rakeback you get (offcourse all goes to ''you'' not to me). All is meant to be ''long run'' so patience is the key, players with tilt problems dont have to reply cos i think ''patience'' is allways nr1 at poker. I think of minimum 4 tables multi maybe more if you can do it and still play ok. Poker skills: You dont have to be a good player, most important is to have patience, we start with TAG on micro, i hope i can be the coach to lift your skill a little. You dont have to be a winning player (also not straigth down ), sometimes with 2/3 things to work on break even players become winning players. Its MY rules: I have faith with your and my help it can work out but only my rules which means NEVER cash games, only play games which we decided to play, so sorry to sound harsh but i make the rules.
This sums it up a littl, if sometin cross my mind i''ll add it. Thinking of a bonus offcourse, dont know exactly how this can be implemented but maybe you or other mobsters have an idea. $40/$50 is a lot of money for many poor countrys so thinking of do this in $10 peaces so i dont get a hit and run player, have to be carefull right
Anyway, this was my story now reply your story, background info is allways nice, so put up as many words you like, if i can give someone a better life which life is now not that good it would be a great achievement
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You're a good man doomdy, and there was a guy called oliver from the Phillippines with 1000 posts asking for a stake, in jovis thread, who maybe meets your requirements the most. I haven't seen him floating about the forums much but maybe you have, he seems like your best bet to me.
P.S. I wouldn't stake me either But i'll be making an appearance at P.KR soon so maybe then if you see me in games you can analyse my game.
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Hi doomdy!
I´m go to say the same when Jovi open his staker-post. Be carefull more carefull. I see you got a good plannig strategy and seems you have clear objetives. The best of the luck with your stakers.
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So the thing is your doing this with an altruist intent? For the experience of helping someone in the poker world + the reward of doing it successfully? Coz i mean that kind of stake it's not something that would be atractive for a solid player and almost always a losing player with a lot of flaws in his game that would need massive help/coaching and nurturing about the way he invests his money so he can be a winning player.. almost like your bossing him around while he just puts your money where and how you want it.. i guess.
Saying this by common sense and all those threads around here of people who did the same and wasted the money in 1 day :S
Anyways if your idea is what i think it is it's a very noble act and a very nice thing to do in such a competitive and individualistic game, so congratulations and good luck.
By the way .. would be nice if you shared your gaming name since your offering coaching aswell with the stake so we can see what kind of results you have aswell.
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Posted by occultum: By the way .. would be nice if you shared your gaming name since your offering coaching aswell with the stake so we can see what kind of results you have aswell.
For wots its worth... : PKR ------> domdy, so i am a winning player but low limit.
Have played at many other networks with many games but main room is PKR.
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Posted by Chartoule: Hi doomdy!
I'm go to say the same when Jovi open his staker-post. Be carefull more carefull. I see you got a good plannig strategy and seems you have clear objetives. The best of the luck with your stakers.
Well its just a 1 time stake, if he/she hit and run then i never do it again. Guess odds on succesfull depends on how serious the player is imo, all comes down to patience, be a steady winning player after 3/4/5/6 months, thats the goal.
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Posted by occultum: Anyways if your idea is what i think it is it's a very noble act and a very nice thing to do in such a competitive and individualistic game, so congratulations and good luck. .
Well its not really a stake cos i don want the money back, i am just thinking if its doable, i guess its doable with the right person.
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Hi doomdy, my English is not the best but I will try to tell something about me. My name is Martynas I'm from small country Lithuania (Europe), the average salary in my country is like you said in Asia, under 300$. I'm playing poker for almost a year now, always trying to improve, reading articles, books watching videos about poker. I have never deposit money to poker room, because I don't have money for that, only playing from free bankrolls and freerolls. You really would help me if you stake some money for me, and of course to couch me to get a better player. I can multi table 3-4 tables, I think I'm best on SnG's and MTT, I don't really like cash games, but if you would teach me I would play it.
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Posted by MJR: Hi doomdy, my English is not the best but I will try to tell something about me. My name is Martynas I'm from small country Lithuania (Europe), the average salary in my country is like you said in Asia, under 300$. I'm playing poker for almost a year now, always trying to improve, reading articles, books watching videos about poker. I have never deposit money to poker room, because I don't have money for that, only playing from free bankrolls and freerolls. You really would help me if you stake some money for me, and of course to couch me to get a better player. I can multi table 3-4 tables, I think I'm best on SnG's and MTT, I don't really like cash games, but if you would teach me I would play it.
Lithuania is a member of the European Union and the biggest economy among three Baltic states. GDP per capita reached USD 17,800 in 2008 and was higher than the ones of all its neighbors – Latvia, Poland, Russia and Belarus.
During the last decade (1998–2008) salaries have more than doubled in Lithuania. Despite this, labour costs in Lithuania are among the lowest in the EU. Average monthly net salary in the third quarter of 2009 was LTL 1665 (EUR 482) and decreased by 6% compared to the same quarter in 2008.[49] The sharpest annual decrease in hourly labour costs in the EU of -10.9% was observed in Lithuania in the third quarter of 2009.
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I wanted to say not the average, but minimum salary is 300$, Its very hard to find job even for minimum, even if you make average it's very hard to live by your one. so allot of Lithuanians emigrates to other countrys, in US, UK you get triple more money than in Lithuania. I'm not trying to look poor or something just saying the facts.
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Pretty nice idea doomdy,this still isnt a "stake" tho,you should call it "sponsorship" I consider it as great goodwill of you to do that,but I still think you should take some profit cut (doesnt even have to be much,just so that you have some kind of return for your time spent) because in the end the time you spend coaching that person is time you will lose grinding,so in theory it will lose you money doing that all completely for free,not only the initial starting BR :/ And even with charging some %,it can still change the life of that person,trust me,I have been through something similar (in the players-role),poker is my only source of income right now and I have no money problems,while getting charged morer than half of my profits,and it still helped me for the longterm
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Posted by MJR: I wanted to say not the average, but minimum salary is 300$, Its very hard to find job even for minimum, even if you make average it's very hard to live by your one. so allot of Lithuanians emigrates to other countrys, in US, UK you get triple more money than in Lithuania. I'm not trying to look poor or something just saying the facts.
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Still average wage being 482 that's probably in the lowest group of average wage in Europe. Might not be like in some asian countries but i think the point of being a country where people earn little is valid.
hey doom. i am from Philippines asia.Im interested in your stake offer. I am playing poker for about a 2 years now. I usually play freerolls because no money to deposit...hahaha.i have some cash already in my poker acct. but not much...I am more interested in your coaching offer.hahaha.Its for free right.I play in Party, Betfair and Yachting now a days. usually 4 to 5 hours every night sometimes 6 to 7 on fridays and saturdays...I can do multitabling...i am not a winning player yet. But i have some wins in freerolls and i use is to play micro cash game and SNG. I am still on the learning process.Can hanlde bad beats now... I understand now that aces is just 70% winning versus a random hand...anyway please contact me if im qualified for your staking... I want learn play and win in poker because its the game that i truly love... . i want to in the long run....
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Good idea and good intend, doomdy. looks like I get the condition u want , but I am playing at 3 site now. I just want your coaching, how can I do ? Did you play at merge ? I didn't play at PKR. or at this forum ? no video, too long download.
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Just to add some stuff, online bank is a must, best is moneybookers, easiest for me. Also want to know what difference does it mean to your life (or family) if your a winning player lets say making $200 a month and can cash out $100 or $150 every month.
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Posted by MJR: Hi doomdy, my English is not the best but I will try to tell something about me. My name is Martynas I'm from small country Lithuania (Europe), the average salary in my country is like you said in Asia, under 300$. I'm playing poker for almost a year now, always trying to improve, reading articles, books watching videos about poker. I have never deposit money to poker room, because I don't have money for that, only playing from free bankrolls and freerolls. You really would help me if you stake some money for me, and of course to couch me to get a better player. I can multi table 3-4 tables, I think I'm best on SnG's and MTT, I don't really like cash games, but if you would teach me I would play it.
Very nice reply only problem is your new here (2 posts)
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Posted by ayaraled: hey doom. i am from Philippines asia.Im interested in your stake offer. I am playing poker for about a 2 years now. I usually play freerolls because no money to deposit...hahaha.i have some cash already in my poker acct. but not much...I am more interested in your coaching offer.hahaha.Its for free right.I play in Party, Betfair and Yachting now a days. usually 4 to 5 hours every night sometimes 6 to 7 on fridays and saturdays...I can do multitabling...i am not a winning player yet. But i have some wins in freerolls and i use is to play micro cash game and SNG. I am still on the learning process.Can hanlde bad beats now... I understand now that aces is just 70% winning versus a random hand...anyway please contact me if im qualified for your staking... I want learn play and win in poker because its the game that i truly love... . i want to in the long run....
Very nice i put you on my list, if i have further \questions i let you know
------------ Thinking of SNG only, MTT got to much variance, cash NO. For example sometin like steps SNG could get you lots of cashback with not so much risk and good to learn the game, maybe combination with DoNs, its boring but DoNs are very good to learn poker.
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The very best of luck Doomdy.
I hope you finfd someone worthy of being staked and who has the discipline and desire to turn your offer into something greater for themselves in the long run.
Posted by doomdy: Just to add some stuff, online bank is a must, best is moneybookers, easiest for me. Also want to know what difference does it mean to your life (or family) if your a winning player lets say making $200 a month and can cash out $100 or $150 every month.
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Posted by MJR: Hi doomdy, my English is not the best but I will try to tell something about me. My name is Martynas I'm from small country Lithuania (Europe), the average salary in my country is like you said in Asia, under 300$. I'm playing poker for almost a year now, always trying to improve, reading articles, books watching videos about poker. I have never deposit money to poker room, because I don't have money for that, only playing from free bankrolls and freerolls. You really would help me if you stake some money for me, and of course to couch me to get a better player. I can multi table 3-4 tables, I think I'm best on SnG's and MTT, I don't really like cash games, but if you would teach me I would play it.
Very nice reply only problem is your new here (2 posts)
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Posted by ayaraled: hey doom. i am from Philippines asia.Im interested in your stake offer. I am playing poker for about a 2 years now. I usually play freerolls because no money to deposit...hahaha.i have some cash already in my poker acct. but not much...I am more interested in your coaching offer.hahaha.Its for free right.I play in Party, Betfair and Yachting now a days. usually 4 to 5 hours every night sometimes 6 to 7 on fridays and saturdays...I can do multitabling...i am not a winning player yet. But i have some wins in freerolls and i use is to play micro cash game and SNG. I am still on the learning process.Can hanlde bad beats now... I understand now that aces is just 70% winning versus a random hand...anyway please contact me if im qualified for your staking... I want learn play and win in poker because its the game that i truly love... . i want to in the long run....
Very nice i put you on my list, if i have further \questions i let you know
------------ Thinking of SNG only, MTT got to much variance, cash NO. For example sometin like steps SNG could get you lots of cashback with not so much risk and good to learn the game, maybe combination with DoNs, its boring but DoNs are very good to learn poker.
I think SNG is the best way to start.I always play in betfair micro 10cents.good game and already made some good finishes. But there always downswings.hehehe.If i lost 4 buy ins in 4 tables i play. I stop and return to freerolls to earn some amount and back to SNG again.Am i doing right?.Anyways i cannot use moneybookers because there's restriction in my country...
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wtf? martynas is a loser dont stake him- how someone can say that a country which is a member of eu and gives all opportunities you need to earn whatever you are worth is a bad place to live in? maybe he is a total boner, who doesn't want to work at all? i think the one who is going to be staked must have the following: 1) be a woman; 2) has big boobs; 3) has a nice looking ass; 4) has will to repay for staking in "creative" manner 5) your commercial goes here
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Thinking of a combination first deposit/ topped by me, so equal to lets say a first deposit bonus of $50 in $10 parts i top every $10 bonus with also $10 bonus so compaired problably more then 100% pure rakeback.
), sometimes with 2/3 things to work on break even players become winning players.
But i'll be making an appearance at P.KR soon so maybe then if you see me in games you can analyse my game. 
. i want to in the long run....
