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Very nice hand and quite the pot to pull in. Maybe I don't quite understand everything when it comes to reading through hand slike this, but what type of tournament is this. I mean, is it a buyin, bounty, freezeout, etc. Just Curious!
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Posted by Greenmohave: Very nice hand and quite the pot to pull in. Maybe I don't quite understand everything when it comes to reading through hand slike this, but what type of tournament is this. I mean, is it a buyin, bounty, freezeout, etc. Just Curious!
Its low buyin, deep n steep, turbo 10K startstack.
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Good shove. Sick that you ran into a bigger hand, but even sicker suckout Bet villain broke something after that hand. I know I probably would have. I mean if you had just hit your kicker and held, it's one thing, but to runner runner a straight flush is just epic
Well ... nice river. However I can't understand the reason to push with 20BB and such a poor hand. After that hand, don't look your EV if you don't want to get depressed
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Posted by DaMessiah666: Well ... nice river. However I can't understand the reason to push with 20BB and such a poor hand. After that hand, don't look your EV if you don't want to get depressed
I shove when i have still fold equidity
------------ But ok we can hang a question on this one. Good or bad shove?
Posted by doomdy: I shove when i have still fold equidity
So ... you always shove??
Posted by doomdy: But ok we can hang a question on this one. Good or bad shove?
IMHO it's not a good shove. One limper UTG, a raiser in UTG+1, we don't know if they are loose o tight but anyway. In UTG+2 shoving 20BB with ATo doesn't make sense. You don't have any need to risk your chips in that hand. Maybe if the opponent was extremely loose and a monkey but ... anyway, not good for me. But of course I'm not an expert, it's just my opinion.
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Base on theory, bad fold ,of course. But I respect with instinct ! Just curious, what did you think or feel at that moment ? Sometimes, when I received my card, I 'feel' something like feel my card is winning card. And many times is correct ( not always, lol ). How you ?
Posted by doomdy: But ok we can hang a question on this one. Good or bad shove?
CSI = 6.8 so shoving or folding.
I would have folded, with so many players still to act, a limper and an EP raiser before you (I would credit the EP raiser with a better hand than ATo).
I think you would only get called by better hands (as was the case here). I assume your intention was to squeeze, and just pick up the pot? Admittedly I try these plays way too little (the levels I play at, I get called too often)...
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I know most people say fold , but you raised, so your pot committed , and then when you see the hands, your looks a lot better, when they both have AK, so good call and nice hand.
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Posted by crash58: I know most people say fold , but you raised, so your pot committed , and then when you see the hands, your looks a lot better, when they both have AK, so good call and nice hand.
The shove isn't standard, but it's not that bad. It could make a hand like A10, AJ or AQ fold, or small pocket pairs If you get called you're in deep crap though!
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Posted by TheMachineQC: The shove isn't standard, but it's not that bad. It could make a hand like A10, AJ or AQ fold, or small pocket pairs If you get called you're in deep crap though!
Small pairs arent in his range,they would limp behind,not iso-raise AQ isnt gonna fold to a shove,AJ might,but yeah,thats 1 hand of his whole range that we're behind against that we can make fold there.
A hand like T9s or something like that would be a much better hand to jam here than A10
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What room is that hand? PokerStar think it's because you always win on the turn with a straight or flush, only having A7, and just do not do stairs with A. That always happens in that room is a mess. so you are in the final table someone always comes out and win with set K4o or ladder (with the 4) is quite common. QQ cntra J10o J10o with flush and win too sick
Bet villain broke something after that hand. I know I probably would have. I mean if you had just hit your kicker and held, it's one thing, but to runner runner a straight flush is just epic 
