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  22-Jun-12, 20:47   #1
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doomdy 

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Table #45568463 - Tournament #26092041 Table #17
Starting Hand #2111152076
Start time of hand: 22 Jun 2012 20:31:43
Last Hand #2111151244
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now 600 / 1,200
Button is at seat 6
Seat 1: FluffyBunny85 - 29,790
Seat 2: IceCool420 - 65,312
Seat 3: domdy - 21,438
Seat 4: LQQKITSHAZ - 52,055
Seat 5: familyman4eva - 20,135
Seat 6: fireguard020 - 34,425
Seat 7: minnix - 10,490
Seat 8: Mickwin1951 - 30,998
Seat 9: RUSF1SH - 20,932
Shuffling Deck
Moving Button to seat 7
FluffyBunny85 posts ante of 150
IceCool420 posts ante of 150
domdy posts ante of 150
LQQKITSHAZ posts ante of 150
familyman4eva posts ante of 150
fireguard020 posts ante of 150
minnix posts ante of 150
Mickwin1951 posts ante of 150
RUSF1SH posts ante of 150
Pot sizes: 1,350
Mickwin1951 posts small blind (600)
RUSF1SH posts big blind (1,200)
Dealing Cards
Dealing [A s][T c] to domdy
FluffyBunny85 calls 1,200
IceCool420 raises to 3,600
domdy raises to 21,288 (all-in)
LQQKITSHAZ folds
familyman4eva folds
fireguard020 folds
minnix folds
Mickwin1951 raises to 30,848 (all-in)
RUSF1SH folds
FluffyBunny85 folds
IceCool420 calls 30,848
Pot sizes: 67,614
Pot sizes: 19,120
IceCool420 shows [A c][K d]
domdy shows [A s][T c]
Mickwin1951 shows [A h][K h]
Dealing Flop [J c][3 s][8 c]
Pot sizes: 67,614
Pot sizes: 19,120
Dealing Turn [7 c]
Pot sizes: 67,614
Pot sizes: 19,120
Dealing River [9 c]
Pot sizes: 67,614
Pot sizes: 19,120
Mickwin1951 has High Card: Ace
IceCool420 has Flush, Ace high
IceCool420 wins 19,120 from side pot #1 with: Flush, Ace high
domdy has Straight Flush, Jack high
domdy wins 67,614 with: Straight Flush, Jack high
Seat 1: FluffyBunny85 - 28,440
Seat 2: IceCool420 - 53,434
Seat 3: domdy - 67,614
Seat 4: LQQKITSHAZ - 51,905
Seat 5: familyman4eva - 19,985
Seat 6: fireguard020 - 34,275
Seat 7: minnix - 10,340
Seat 8: Mickwin1951 - 0
Seat 9: RUSF1SH - 19,582
End of Hand #2111152076

     
  22-Jun-12, 21:12   #2
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Greenmohave 

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Very nice hand and quite the pot to pull in. Maybe I don't quite understand everything when it comes to reading through hand slike this, but what type of tournament is this. I mean, is it a buyin, bounty, freezeout, etc. Just Curious!

     
  22-Jun-12, 21:14   #3
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doomdy 

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Posted by Greenmohave:
Very nice hand and quite the pot to pull in. Maybe I don't quite understand everything when it comes to reading through hand slike this, but what type of tournament is this. I mean, is it a buyin, bounty, freezeout, etc. Just Curious!


Its low buyin, deep n steep, turbo 10K startstack.

     
  22-Jun-12, 21:32   #4
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retribution 

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Good shove. Sick that you ran into a bigger hand, but even sicker suckout Smile Bet villain broke something after that hand. I know I probably would have. I mean if you had just hit your kicker and held, it's one thing, but to runner runner a straight flush is just epic Worship

     
  22-Jun-12, 21:35   #5
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DaMessiah666 

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Well ... nice river. However I can't understand the reason to push with 20BB and such a poor hand. After that hand, don't look your EV if you don't want to get depressed Big Smile

     
  22-Jun-12, 21:39   #6
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doomdy 

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Posted by DaMessiah666:
Well ... nice river. However I can't understand the reason to push with 20BB and such a poor hand. After that hand, don't look your EV if you don't want to get depressed Big Smile


I shove when i have still fold equidity Agree

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But ok we can hang a question on this one.
Good or bad shove?

     
  23-Jun-12, 07:05   #7
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DaMessiah666 

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Posted by doomdy:
I shove when i have still fold equidity Agree

So ... you always shove?? Big Smile

Posted by doomdy:
But ok we can hang a question on this one.
Good or bad shove?

IMHO it's not a good shove. One limper UTG, a raiser in UTG+1, we don't know if they are loose o tight but anyway. In UTG+2 shoving 20BB with ATo doesn't make sense. You don't have any need to risk your chips in that hand. Maybe if the opponent was extremely loose and a monkey but ... anyway, not good for me. But of course I'm not an expert, it's just my opinion.

     
  23-Jun-12, 15:26   #8
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Serpang 
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Base on theory, bad fold ,of course. But I respect with instinct ! Just curious, what did you think or feel at that moment ? Sometimes, when I received my card, I 'feel' something like feel my card is winning card. And many times is correct ( not always, lol ). How you ? Tongue Tongue

     
  23-Jun-12, 16:02   #9
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marqis 

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Posted by doomdy:
But ok we can hang a question on this one.
Good or bad shove?

CSI = 6.8 so shoving or folding.

I would have folded, with so many players still to act, a limper and an EP raiser before you (I would credit the EP raiser with a better hand than ATo).

I think you would only get called by better hands (as was the case here). I assume your intention was to squeeze, and just pick up the pot?
Admittedly I try these plays way too little (the levels I play at, I get called too often)...

     
  23-Jun-12, 16:52   #10
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doomdy 

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UTG limp, UTG+1 = bigstack minraise, M<7 ===> shove for me.

     
  23-Jun-12, 18:17   #11
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BeMyATMplz 
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Fold pre AINEC
AJ would be a tougher one but A10 in this situation = easy fold pre

     
  23-Jun-12, 19:32   #12
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Macubaas 
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Nice hand mate and thanks for sharing!

I don't wat to highjack your thread but i vote for getting a hand converter on the bankrollmob forums Big Smile

I hope admin will see this Blink

     
  23-Jun-12, 19:57   #13
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crash58 
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I know most people say fold , but you raised, so your pot committed , and then when you see the hands, your looks a lot better, when they both have AK, so good call and nice hand. Thumbs Down

     
  23-Jun-12, 20:16   #14
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BeMyATMplz 
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Posted by crash58:
I know most people say fold , but you raised, so your pot committed , and then when you see the hands, your looks a lot better, when they both have AK, so good call and nice hand. Thumbs Down


what...

     
  23-Jun-12, 23:37   #15
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TheMachineQC 

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The shove isn't standard, but it's not that bad. It could make a hand like A10, AJ or AQ fold, or small pocket pairs Blink If you get called you're in deep crap though!

     
  24-Jun-12, 00:49   #16
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BeMyATMplz 
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Posted by TheMachineQC:
The shove isn't standard, but it's not that bad. It could make a hand like A10, AJ or AQ fold, or small pocket pairs Blink If you get called you're in deep crap though!


Small pairs arent in his range,they would limp behind,not iso-raise Blink
AQ isnt gonna fold to a shove,AJ might,but yeah,thats 1 hand of his whole range that we're behind against that we can make fold there.

A hand like T9s or something like that would be a much better hand to jam here than A10

Edited by BeMyATMplz (Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 00:54 GMT)


     
  24-Jun-12, 04:13   #17
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xalfu 
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What room is that hand? PokerStar think it's because you always win on the turn with a straight or flush, only having A7, and just do not do stairs with A.
That always happens in that room is a mess. so you are in the final table someone always comes out and win with set K4o or ladder (with the 4) is quite common.
QQ cntra J10o J10o with flush and win too sick Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
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