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  30-Jun-12, 17:57   #1
Titan Poker & Winner.com KO in Denmark 0 
DaMessiah666 

Joined: Apr '09
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Two more sites KO. Titan Poker and Winner.com face ISP block in Denmark.

I don't know if I can post the link but, just in case, I post a little extract of the content:

"The Danish Gambling Authority SKAT published this week a list of twelve websites that are serving Danish customers without an online gaming license.

The Danish ISP 3 has been forced to block access to the operators, which includes iPoker skins Titan Poker and Winner.com, GTECH G2 skin bet-at-home.com and Microgaming room CoolHandPoker."

Google a little in order to find the link if you are interested on it.

Conclusion: As I've been saying a lot of times ... online poker is really ill. Disagree

     
  30-Jun-12, 18:29   #2
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If they are just DNS blocking them like they do with piratebay and similar, then it's a 30 second fix on most computers/routers. But of course that doesn't help Average Joe who doesn't know anything about computers and just wants to play poker, so obviously it's a problem for online poker that this is happening.

People (who live in those countries) has to step up and e-mail their politicians to let them know they're unhappy about it. It's probably not going to help, but doing nothing is guaranteed to not help at all.

     
  30-Jun-12, 20:01   #3
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
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This sucks big time, i mean i think this is an pretty important hit for titan poker and on these times to lose all players from a country is really bad....

I really wonder who is behind all this ban online poker movement from Europe? Angry

     
  30-Jun-12, 23:31   #4
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DaMessiah666 

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Posted by Administrator:
If they are just DNS blocking them like they do with piratebay and similar, then it's a 30 second fix on most computers/routers. But of course that doesn't help Average Joe who doesn't know anything about computers and just wants to play poker, so obviously it's a problem for online poker that this is happening.

Is it really legal?? And is it so easy? For example, Pokerstars has blocked a lot of account for cheating or using VPNs.

Posted by Administrator:
People (who live in those countries) has to step up and e-mail their politicians to let them know they're unhappy about it. It's probably not going to help, but doing nothing is guaranteed to not help at all.

Have you read something about the reaction here in Spain. People are on strike, sending a lot of mails, collecting signatures and flooding social networks. They won't go back on their laws.

     
  1-Jul-12, 01:02   #5
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Plexo 
Joined: Aug '09
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Poker regulations will lead to online poker to the end.
Every day less players, specially noobs player are joining to poker sites cause of these laws.

Moreover every day is harder to win cause there are less fishes playing (or maybe i'm becoming one ahah)

Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
  1-Jul-12, 08:44   #6
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Fakiry 

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If it's a question of license i am sure must of the sites, although paying more taxes, would have all the will to get those licenses, at least for some countries, from where it comes the main income. In Portugal, i still haven't heard about nothing related to this, but recently there was a public figure who gave the face for a sports beting site which also haves poker rooms. I became suspicious with that realtion, but, til now, nothing happened to their competitors.

     
  1-Jul-12, 15:47   #7
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Mober 
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I dont know much about computer stuff but if admin is talking about VPN
that may risk things with players accounts since when you are getting
registered you are declaring your country of residence.
Poker sites and mostly the serious sites pay attention to this, and if you try it without
warning you will be in trouble probably.

     
  1-Jul-12, 21:20   #8
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Posted by Mober:
I dont know much about computer stuff but if admin is talking about VPN
that may risk things with players accounts since when you are getting
registered you are declaring your country of residence.
Poker sites and mostly the serious sites pay attention to this, and if you try it without
warning you will be in trouble probably.


No, VPN is not necessary to avoid a DNS block, you just need to use OpenDNS or Google DNS servers, instead of the DNS servers of your ISP. That's how the ISP's block access to piratebay and similar sites, so just use a different DNS server than your ISP's and the block no longer works. But if they're blocking it differently, then you need to use VPN service and that might introduce a problem between you and the gaming site.

     
  1-Jul-12, 21:33   #9
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retribution 

Joined: Mar '11
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Posted by Administrator:
Posted by Mober:
I dont know much about computer stuff but if admin is talking about VPN
that may risk things with players accounts since when you are getting
registered you are declaring your country of residence.
Poker sites and mostly the serious sites pay attention to this, and if you try it without
warning you will be in trouble probably.


No, VPN is not necessary to avoid a DNS block, you just need to use OpenDNS or Google DNS servers, instead of the DNS servers of your ISP. That's how the ISP's block access to piratebay and similar sites, so just use a different DNS server than your ISP's and the block no longer works. But if they're blocking it differently, then you need to use VPN service and that might introduce a problem between you and the gaming site.


Yeah, it's super easy to circumvent a DNS block your ISP implements. All you do is change your DNS server in your internet settings on your computer. The great thing is, using someone elses DNS isn't illegal, and since it's YOUR computer, you can do whatever the hell you want.

I can easily post a quick how-to guide for any users here, if that's allowed.

     
  1-Jul-12, 22:16   #10
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DaMessiah666 

Joined: Apr '09
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Posted by retribution:
The great thing is, using someone elses DNS isn't illegal, and since it's YOUR computer, you can do whatever the hell you want.

You can do it but you are risking your bankroll. You can be playing for years but nobody assures you that you could withdraw.

     
  2-Jul-12, 09:52   #11
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Posted by DaMessiah666:
You can do it but you are risking your bankroll. You can be playing for years but nobody assures you that you could withdraw.


No, not by changing your DNS. The only way you could risk losing your bankroll in a case like this, is if the site in question does not have a license to operate in the country and they decide to block your cashout - or they simply cannot transfer to your account for same reasons. The DNS change by itself does not change anything in terms of your IP address, where you're coming from etc. Lots of people actually use both OpenDNS and Google DNS servers already just because they are a tiny bit faster than your ISP's.

     
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