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  2-Jul-12, 14:37   #1
Dark days in yachting 0 
ayaraled 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 39 (M)
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it is really hard to beat micro cash games...hahaha....got this money i earned from playing freeroll and the 5 euro bunos.. i usually play omaha and SNG but there has been no action in omaha so decided to play micro cash game holdem...this last 2 days been lossing big...already loss half of my br....its time to go away in cash games....lol....actually i have build big part of my br from nl cash game also....but lossing it all also.... Big Smile ....back to SNG....

     
  2-Jul-12, 15:19   #2
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Serpang 
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with small bankroll, play s n g is saver. Don't play cash game, you can lose all of your bankroll ( like me Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile . Get downswing --tilt --- top up my money at table --- lost--- upset, want get my money back---top up again and again----and finally found no have cash anymore) Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

s n g could be easier to control ( at least for me ) Big Smile Big Smile

I wish you will find your lucky day soon Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Good luck

     
  2-Jul-12, 15:49   #3
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doomdy 

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For bankrollmanagement its better to play SNG cos playing cash we can tilt our roll in 30sec, with SNG if we just play in limits thats impossible.

     
  2-Jul-12, 16:07   #4
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Mober 
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When i read the thread title i thought that they were closing down also.
Good thing its not a trend and they are up online

     
  2-Jul-12, 19:52   #5
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DaMessiah666 

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Posted by Mober:
When i read the thread title i thought that they were closing down also.

Give them just few months ...

     
  2-Jul-12, 20:03   #6
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
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Now it really depends on what limits you were used to play on other poker platforms...

There are platforms like stars where even at NL10 players play pretty good, on micro like NL2 or NL4 you just need to play your cards and under no circumstance bluff because you'll get paid.

     
  2-Jul-12, 21:26   #7
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
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General BR advice is to play no more than 10%. So give it a go and look after your money. Good advcie above about SNG v Cash....much safer to allow yourself some control.

     
  3-Jul-12, 07:00   #8
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SuperpokefA 
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Posted by doomdy:
For bankrollmanagement its better to play SNG cos playing cash we can tilt our roll in 30sec, with SNG if we just play in limits thats impossible.


For cash games you have to use a comfortable bankrollmanagement.
Full Ring : 25bb
6max : 40bb (because of more variance)

You can use a more aggressive BRM but when you a bad run you can get into trouble.

Prevent Tilting : If you lose 2-3 buyins in short time, STOP playing.
You will only want get your money back as quick as possible and loose more money,
because you don't play your A-game anymore.
Read some poker articles to get focussed again.

     
  3-Jul-12, 07:22   #9
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retribution 

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I actually think that the players at yachting are SUPER easy to beat. Just play tight, and wait for them to donk off their stack to you. So many of those retards will donk off with almost any 2. If they pair the board, they are calling all the way to the river.

Managed to double my initial 5 in the first 2 days playing, and after a few more had it up to almost 15. Then managed to go on a sick tilt bender, going all the way down to 2. Back up at 10 again. It's just too bad there isn't more players, as I'd LOVE to play at yachting. Their rakeback is sick, and so is their VIP/bonus system.

     
  3-Jul-12, 07:24   #10
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ayaraled 
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Thanks mosbters...needed this advice to start build my BR again....No cash game this time...lol...SNG and tournaments only....

     
  3-Jul-12, 08:51   #11
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SuperpokefA 
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Posted by retribution:
I actually think that the players at yachting are SUPER easy to beat. Just play tight, and wait for them to donk off their stack to you. So many of those retards will donk off with almost any 2. If they pair the board, they are calling all the way to the river.



Must agree with this. I think most of the players at yachting don't have a clue how to play a cash game.
They limp with every drawy hand (T3s or 85o) and have no respect for a raise or 3bet.
If they hit something on the board they WILL call till the river.
So don't ever bluff them if you have nothing because it's no use.
But if you have a good hand, bet till the end and try to put them all in.

     
  3-Jul-12, 11:59   #12
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Fakiry 

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Maybe your strategy at those ring tables wasn’t the best. I see a lot of players entering the $0.01/$0.02 rooms with $0.50 against players who are there with initial $2. In normal conditions, those who entered with $0.50 are in disadvantage and will quickly enter in an all-in mode with every ace in the hand or something like that. The minimum slip will be the death of the artist…

     
  3-Jul-12, 20:08   #13
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Macubaas 
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My advice would be to stick to SNG, mtt have a huge variance, even higher than cash games...

But as a general rule some bad beats, a low bankroll and maybe some tilt can destroy a br in a matter of hours.

     
  4-Jul-12, 12:29   #14
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Fakiry 

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I got back here today Reading the other posts and i read mine again too and i realized i didn’t told you the conclusion of my thought. If the bankroll is short, the game strategy must be adapted to that. That’s why noone should complain about €5 being few for Yachting because there, the main action will be low buy-in tourneys, $0.10 buy-in SnGs and, eventually, $0.01/$0.02 ring games. But if you enter with €2 to a ring table, you will only be able to play two games, which is not good strategy. So, like everyone else already told you and i forgot to tell on my first post: stick to SnG til you make your bankroll grow.

     
  4-Jul-12, 14:20   #15
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ayaraled 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 39 (M)
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Thanks mobsters....Playing SNG now...no more cash games...slowly building my br again... Big Smile ....

     
  4-Jul-12, 14:52   #16
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kinogomes 

Joined: Feb '10
Location: Portugal
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Well micros are the same in every sites, most due that possible they are the same players changing platforms everytime looking for the less "rigged" site.
You will find stupid lucky players, some good players, and lots of bad players willing to catch your guns with any 2.
I dont think its a yachting problem, maybe its the way people plays at micros!! I mytself only beated nl2 because of the rakeback, in other way i would be looser!

     
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