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  8-Jul-12, 16:07   #1
Playing Rebuys When to Stop 0 
Greenmohave 

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This kind of goes witha previous thread posted, but after reading it and starting to play some of the Rebuy games which I am not to familiar with.

Anyway, I've played a few nothing over the $3.30 and if one rebuys you have $6.00 or even $9.00 if not more in one of these. If you don't place your out. So what is general practice if any? I only rebuy one time and then again once I make the break to rebuy the last time.

I've noticed if you buyin more then 2 to 3 times you'd best make the top 10 or you don't make nothing more then your money back. I watch some players buyin, go allin, lose it and repeat this routine until they hit on one of their reckless allin attempts. Why?

Just looking for some advice, opinions or thoughts on this type of game.

     
  8-Jul-12, 16:16   #2
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doomdy 

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Posted by Greenmohave:
I've noticed if you buyin more then 2 to 3 times you'd best make the top 10 or you don't make nothing more then your money back. I watch some players buyin, go allin, lose it and repeat this routine until they hit on one of their reckless allin attempts. Why?


Cos its EV+ to the max Smile

Strategy:
Allways rebuy max first hand.
Then go allin with many hands. For me any PP middle/high suited ect.
Allways DO addon also if buyin big allready.
At first break your problably top20%.
Then take it down Agree

     
  8-Jul-12, 18:54   #3
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MarcWinz 

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Hi green.

My advice about rebuy tourneys is Rebuy up til you reach the min payout. i.e if a tourney is $3.00 buy in and the min prize is $12.00 Rebuy 3 times.(So total cost is $12.00).

Obviously, you should not go mad and all in with anything, this is the road to rack and ruin. I would suggest play normal tournament strategy.Always add-on if the add on amount of chips is bigger than the original stack. Others will do this and put you at a disadvantage. Some believe that you should add-on if your chip stack is less than average, I don't think this is always correct, it depends on your opponents.


Hope this helps and GL to you all.

Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  8-Jul-12, 20:47   #4
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noonlion 

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Number of rebuys depends on payout but also your BR - it's easy to think it's only a $3 buyin, then splurge another 9 on rebuys then you have to buy an add on because frankly you're stupid not to and mathematically what you pay for the add on is very cheap, also everyone else will be doing it.

So 4 rebuys and an add on = $15

In the heat of a tournament rebuying is easy to do - set a limit.

I'm not a huge fan of rebuy events unless the buyin is reasonably high otherwise the donkers just keep coming - sometimes you can doubtle triple up etc easily other times its a crapshoot.

Reminds me of a story I read about Negreanu who apparently rebought 27 times into a WSOP event spending $27000 - he finished third and made a profit of 73k.

     
  8-Jul-12, 20:55   #5
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damosk 
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I think good advice is dont buy in for more than the minimum pay out, and always keep an eye on your bankroll before you start and give yoursself a limit, cos its so easy to fly over the top of what you really want to play, cos if you hit a couple of bad beat type hands its always easy to want to seek some kind of revenge and throw more money after bad,.

     
  8-Jul-12, 22:36   #6
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teddybears73 
Joined: Nov '11
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Posted by Greenmohave:
This kind of goes witha previous thread posted, but after reading it and starting to play some of the Rebuy games which I am not to familiar with.

Anyway, I've played a few nothing over the $3.30 and if one rebuys you have $6.00 or even $9.00 if not more in one of these. If you don't place your out. So what is general practice if any? I only rebuy one time and then again once I make the break to rebuy the last time.

I've noticed if you buyin more then 2 to 3 times you'd best make the top 10 or you don't make nothing more then your money back. I watch some players buyin, go allin, lose it and repeat this routine until they hit on one of their reckless allin attempts. Why?

Just looking for some advice, opinions or thoughts on this type of game.



aye, i've been in tourneys like that when some nutter rebuys and goes all-in loads of times,i was in one where this bloke must have did it at least 20 yes 20 times the whole table was mocking him,in the end he gave up,what a plank!!!
i usually rebuy once and add-on once,i never used to but i found myself doing it recently

     
  9-Jul-12, 08:28   #7
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pochui 

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i like to use no rebuys at all- i buy in to tournament, and look at it as a normal freezout tourney- if i go bust i start another tourney- this way when i get in th money i usually get 7-8 buyins back- this way if i get placed in the money at least one time in 5 i am in the green- i dont mind other people rebuying at all- they just inflate the prize pool Big Smile

     
  9-Jul-12, 08:31   #8
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kinogomes 

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Posted by teddybears73:
Posted by Greenmohave:
This kind of goes witha previous thread posted, but after reading it and starting to play some of the Rebuy games which I am not to familiar with.

Anyway, I've played a few nothing over the $3.30 and if one rebuys you have $6.00 or even $9.00 if not more in one of these. If you don't place your out. So what is general practice if any? I only rebuy one time and then again once I make the break to rebuy the last time.

I've noticed if you buyin more then 2 to 3 times you'd best make the top 10 or you don't make nothing more then your money back. I watch some players buyin, go allin, lose it and repeat this routine until they hit on one of their reckless allin attempts. Why?

Just looking for some advice, opinions or thoughts on this type of game.



aye, i've been in tourneys like that when some nutter rebuys and goes all-in loads of times,i was in one where this bloke must have did it at least 20 yes 20 times the whole table was mocking him,in the end he gave up,what a plank!!!
i usually rebuy once and add-on once,i never used to but i found myself doing it recently


For sure the guy wasnt aware of what it is a rebuy tournment. The first time i played a rebuy it was a rebuy vpps, it was like 10 vpps each rebuy, actually it was a satellite, i9 have lost around 200 vpps and i lost 10 minutes after the rebuy time ended. This is good for fish, all in all in all in with luck makes a goos a stack and then play tight as hell to save for prizes!

     
  9-Jul-12, 09:35   #9
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MIGO14 
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At the moment I do it like this:
I plan to play them with 3x the original buy in.
I will rebuy right at the start and play tight and look for a good spot to double up.
If I lose, I won´t rebuy again, but leave the tourney.
If I stay in it, I will do the add on and try to get as deep as possible.



     
  9-Jul-12, 10:24   #10
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Serpang 
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Green ,Since you play at hero, try to play at dollar dazller, that's just $ 1,1 buy in and $ 1 rebuy.You can take experience there, but I more likely play at $1,1 satellite for $11 ticket then play MTT freezeout .


To : noonlion
Reminds me of a story I read about Negreanu who apparently rebought 27 times into a WSOP event spending $27000 - he finished third and made a profit of 73k.


Read more: http://www.bankrollmob.com/forum.asp?mode=thread&id...


Is correct ? as long as I know WSOP is freezeout tournament, am I wrong ?

     
  9-Jul-12, 12:06   #11
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Fakiry 

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The last tourney i played with rebuys started with $2.20 and it had $2 rebuys. Things went good for me so i haven’t made any rebuy. But i saw players doing it. In general, i noticed that they were only doing it if the starting chips would still be something that woud put you in the run. If the tourney develops fast, like it happens some times, making a rebuy will turn the player in a target to put down, because the chips aren’t enough to make right decisions. Rebuying for all-in situations isnt smart.

     
  9-Jul-12, 13:06   #12
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Mober 
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No matter how you do in the game and how many times you are willing to rebuy
you have to always keep two rebuys for the break or when the time is over,
for a rebuy if you have low chips and for addon.
If you are in top positions though addon is not a must

     
  9-Jul-12, 13:12   #13
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uhhcallmi 

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i always enter at last minute ,,then rebuy as many times as necesarry....+ add-on...

sometimes win 1rst place with just initial reg+ 1 add-on....

most important is,,if u ask me ,,to stay in tournament till add-on period is passed,,,from there

al players in tournament have a deasent chance to win....i'm talking about sattelite rebuy-tournaments...

love those with 30k add-on.... Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart

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let others fill up the prizetable....be smart...play as cheap as possible...after add-onn ,,blinds are so high that a double -up or triple up is half the job done...then tighten up your range ,,and seek for weak plays,,by weak players...not easy tho...a bit of luck and nice hands do the rest..

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why should you play and risk ur bankroll in the first hour???

let others pay and raise the prizepool,,,get in cheap.

MAYBE SOME GOOD THING TO DO: there is a player called SCHENNIE...at pokerstars...

He is called the rebuy-king....profitable staked player....around 90% of his overall games are rebuy-tournaments....and he rocks....

If u have time and willing to see how he does...seek him at stars..

he knows best ,if u ask me....but ive seen many pro's also buy in at last moment of reg.period..

since they do this al the time...i use same strategy...it's most logical...pay less,win more

Edited by uhhcallmi (Monday, July 09, 2012 @ 13:20 GMT)


     
  9-Jul-12, 14:35   #14
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bullettooth1 

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ive been playing afew rebuys on i-poker and what works for me is that i try to buy in as late as possible, maybe 10 or 15mins before the first break. i rebuy str8 away and try to get my money in with a premium hand.
if i dont get one i will just play normally and try to keep my stack above the 3k i started with and make an add on at the break.
the structure is pretty slow on i-poker so you have plenty of time to play with a 5k stack after the first hour.

this works for me pretty well ive had a few decent cashes, a couple of wins and a couple of second places and final tables.

good luck with whichever strategy you use. just do what feels comfortable to you and remember to have fun. Big Smile

     
  9-Jul-12, 21:48   #15
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Greenmohave 

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Definitely going to stick to the $1 rebuys as suggested for awhile and see how well I do. I like the thought to buyin with one addon and see how I fare then if I do well of course stay and accept the last buyin at break, but if I lose I won't be rebuying 3 or 4 times. Let alone 10 or so.

A lot of geat input here so if there's any beginners like me I'd recommend asking your questions because there a world of information offered by the Mobsters here at BRM. They assisted me when I started out only playing SnG's and offer their experience and thoughts to every question I've asked without making one feel like a dumb butt for asking. A book could be written with the information throughout this forum. Beer Winner Worship

     
  10-Jul-12, 06:54   #16
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ayaraled 
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mayeb 2 rebuy max and 1 add on i think is already good.you cannot make to much profit if u make to many rebuys?I am not really good with rebuy tournament but i think putting to much investment make your profit lesser.... But anyway freezeout tournaments are more better i think...

     
  10-Jul-12, 07:55   #17
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uhhcallmi 

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1 tip to add for rebuys... it is possible to make a rebuy during a hand..if u got less or as much as the startingstack....which can give u an extra boost ,if u see u winning the hand,,but you must be quick ,before the hand is totaly at his end...

And i think ur wrong ayaraled,,the nice thing about rebuy-sattelites is ..most of the time u do not need to reach the final table to win this tournament...

when its filled good and people made some nice rebuys...around 40 players get paid >>>first prize ticket.

so u invest 1 dollar +1 dollar add-on in the most favorable way and win a 109 $ ticket ,then u unregister from the goaltournament and u have 109 $ to play with...without reaching the final table...

Blink Thumbs Up Cool Thumbs Up Big Smile Worship Worship Worship Worship rebuy

Edited by uhhcallmi (Tuesday, July 10, 2012 @ 08:02 GMT)


     
  10-Jul-12, 08:01   #18
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jessthehuman 

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Posted by uhhcallmi:
1 tip to add for rebuys... it is possible to make a rebuy during a hand..if u got less or as much as the startingstack....which can give u an extra boost ,if u see u winning the hand,,but you must be quick ,before the hand is totaly at his end...


not sure what site this is on.. All the sites I've ever played evaluate whether you're able to rebuy once the hand is complete - so if you have 1500 and can rebuy with 2000 or less and you go allin and click rebuy, if you win the hand (say doubling up to 3000) then your rebuy won't be added.

     
  10-Jul-12, 08:03   #19
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uhhcallmi 

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it will on pokerstars...try it out..but make sure u already klick it and rebuy,,,when u see the river..

now people might say,,,why not rebuy before the hand is started...and double or tripple-up a bigger stack ,but till you played the hand ,,nobody is 100% sure he will win the hand...

also if the startstack is 1500 chips and you hold 1650 chips ,after you bet 150 ,its possible to rebuy because your stack is down to 1500 at that moment..

     
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