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Joined: Dec '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 579
Its true i will agree on this 1..
I have played higher limits in the past but now usually if i play poker play lower limits Because i have played higher now i find myself wanting to go up fast and just play medium hands lets say ...bad
I just dont have the patience anymore like i use to when i played all day for weeks at a time on PS Now if i deposit 50 for example i want to have 100 in an hour. And with that in mind you can never play good BRM and i never do anymore...no patience for it
Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 10090
i believe winning in micros is a different thing than winning in mid-high stakes, the main difference is the public itself. there's even a saying "you can't bluff a bad player off the pot" and the problem is that there are lots of bad players at micro stakes, so you lose one gun in your arsenal: bluffing. next thing which is affecting you long term profit in micros is the style of play: generally in micros players tend to be over aggressive, going all in most of the time, so variance is an issue, but ultimately you have to adapt to those situations, and if you cant beat the micros, doubt whether you should go for higher stakes
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 4827
I would say 90%. In order tto have the necessary patience at micro levels, you also need to know when to act and when to freeze, and that goes beyound patience. It’s the first skill level of a player, which, when very well trained and applied, will also be the first sign for the player, telling his conscience he’s now ready to move forward to the next level.
Play solid, establish a nice winrate, increase volume to capitalize from your winrate.
being patient is a way to sum up steady grinding, with a reasonable expectation. over expectations is a large problem with microstakes players.
lets do some math
i would consider a 3big bet per 100 a solid win rate, and you are beating the game. lets say you play1000 hands a day. an average day will only be winning 30 big bets or 60 big blinds. now if you are grinding .02 .05 nl you are only winning on average $3 for 1000 hands. not even a double up on your session.
another piece of advise is that not all of your sessions will be winning ones, especially at the micro stakes. its ok to book a loss. try not to let your session wins and losses dictate how you play, just put on a steady grind and be patient. then its just collecting your winrate from there.
true it patience...because in micro you have to be very patient to wait for good cards and bet them big coz you will be call by loose players and its not a guarantee you will win because suckouts are the next issue...next to patience is tilt control....
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 47 (F)
Posts: 14136
Maybe thats the key for holdem ting games which i rarely play. But for omaha and especially omaha hi/low, i really doubt thats the key, cause ive tried it numerous times
Joined: Aug '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 23
Not true imo.
Plenty of people at the micros who are playing some idotic strategy that makes no sense, and can't work out why they are losing.They'd still lose even if they were the most patient people in the world.
Patience is important in ALL stakes. So is your all-round mental game. Patience doesn't cause you to win money. Not being patient might cause you to lose money though.
Joined: Oct '11
Location: Sweden
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 1410
Posted by w34z3l: Not true imo.
Plenty of people at the micros who are playing some idotic strategy that makes no sense, and can't work out why they are losing.They'd still lose even if they were the most patient people in the world.
Patience is important in ALL stakes. So is your all-round mental game. Patience doesn't cause you to win money. Not being patient might cause you to lose money though.
There's some truth for you all! I couldn't have said it any better myself. Patience is key, but so is your overall game, tilt control and bankroll management.
Joined: Mar '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 617
Once you have aquired a steady solid image at the table your playing at ,,bluffing is back in your arsenal of tricks ,also at the micro's
patience and discipline are very important indeed, i myself have many plans ,but keep finding myself doing opposite of what i had planned during many sessions...
some good players play only 1 or 2 diff. tournament types..and try making money only on those on long term..(easy to analyse).
a way to play which i aprove,but again find myself playing as much tournaments as possible all the time..
probably one of my mayor mistakes..
This is the kind of post where i kind a give myself advise on what and how to do better..
for the ones who read my threads: My bankroll at stars is back to zero again...lost em all playing heads-up 7$ and 15$ games...
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 47 (F)
Posts: 14136
Im sure you have find out what you doing wrong so far and you ending losing your bankroll. Why you keep repeating the same mistakes? Try to control your self and your game.
