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  5-Sep-12, 01:27   #1
Dont understand the thought process of some fish. 0 
Redvulture61 
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Ignore this thread. Tried to post an idiotic play by a fish but i cant link boom hands on this forum for some reason.

Edited by Redvulture61 (Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 01:32 GMT)


     
  5-Sep-12, 04:12   #2
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retribution 

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Posted by Redvulture61:
Ignore this thread. Tried to post an idiotic play by a fish but i cant link boom hands on this forum for some reason.


Boom hands are a no-no here, because they link directly to pokerstars, and for some reason that's a no-no here. Personally I think it's idiotic, but that's just me.

Nothing wrong with posting the raw HH though.

     
  5-Sep-12, 05:45   #3
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Redvulture61 
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Here are some nice examples of how play has gotten worse.


PokerStars Hand #85718888202: Tournament #615010073, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2012/09/05 1:38:07 ET
Table '615010073 29' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Joker66638 (4030 in chips)
Seat 2: redvulture61 (2766 in chips)
Seat 3: bramstalker7 (3646 in chips)
Seat 4: tavospi (3183 in chips)
Seat 5: alou899 (3217 in chips)
Seat 6: MessiahKana (3956 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: vicyar (4424 in chips)
Seat 8: kvanko19 (2480 in chips)
Seat 9: gustavoj577 (4909 in chips)
tavospi: posts small blind 25
alou899: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redvulture61 [7d 7h]
MessiahKana: folds
vicyar: folds
kvanko19: folds
gustavoj577: folds
Joker66638: folds
redvulture61: raises 100 to 150
bramstalker7: folds
tavospi: calls 125
alou899: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [6s 8h 2s]
tavospi: checks
alou899: checks
redvulture61: bets 250
tavospi: calls 250
alou899: folds
*** TURN *** [6s 8h 2s] 7 of clubs
tavospi: checks
redvulture61: bets 700
tavospi: raises 2083 to 2783 and is all-in
redvulture61: calls 1666 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (417) returned to tavospi
*** RIVER *** [6s 8h 2s 7c] Ace of spades
MessiahKana has returned
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tavospi: shows [Qs Js] (a flush, Ace high)
redvulture61: shows [7d 7h] (three of a kind, Sevens)
tavospi collected 5682 from pot
redvulture61 finished the tournament in 1167th place




PokerStars Hand #85718608862: Tournament #615011152, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2012/09/05 1:19:30 ET
Table '615011152 17' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: 1itsonagain (9678 in chips)
Seat 2: thekiwikid (10727 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: mouche_02 (7944 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: ste4dym0bbin (13886 in chips)
Seat 5: _CJ_550 (12130 in chips)
Seat 6: redvulture61 (15936 in chips)
Seat 7: eazykre (11395 in chips)
Seat 8: firbh (12615 in chips)
Seat 9: bandidoMTS (6274 in chips) is sitting out
1itsonagain: posts the ante 50
thekiwikid: posts the ante 50
mouche_02: posts the ante 50
ste4dym0bbin: posts the ante 50
_CJ_550: posts the ante 50
redvulture61: posts the ante 50
eazykre: posts the ante 50
firbh: posts the ante 50
bandidoMTS: posts the ante 50
_CJ_550: posts small blind 200
redvulture61: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redvulture61 [Kc Kh]
eazykre: raises 1200 to 1600
firbh: folds
bandidoMTS: folds
1itsonagain: folds
thekiwikid: folds
mouche_02: folds
ste4dym0bbin: folds
_CJ_550: folds
redvulture61: raises 2800 to 4400
eazykre: calls 2800
*** FLOP *** [7h Qs 5h]
redvulture61: bets 9450
eazykre: calls 6945 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2505) returned to redvulture61
*** TURN *** [7h Qs 5h] 3 of diamonds
*** RIVER *** [7h Qs 5h 3d] Ace of clubs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
redvulture61: shows [Kc Kh] (a pair of Kings)
eazykre: shows [Qc Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
eazykre collected 23340 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 23340 | Rake 0
Board [7h Qs 5h 3d Ac]
Seat 1: 1itsonagain folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: thekiwikid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mouche_02 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ste4dym0bbin (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: _CJ_550 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: redvulture61 (big blind) showed [Kc Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 7: eazykre showed [Qc Qd] and won (23340) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 8: firbh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: bandidoMTS folded before Flop (didn't bet)




Disgusting.

Edited by Redvulture61 (Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 05:58 GMT)


     
  5-Sep-12, 06:27   #4
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pochui 

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bla bla- another one of those "look how unfornuta i am" threads- man this is poker- these things happen often and to all of poker players- why the hell post this and wait for some stupid responses like "how unfortunate, you are unlucky" bla bla- just keep playing and if you are a winning player you will end up with a profit- if you don't end up with a profit- then call it a day, or try to improve

     
  5-Sep-12, 06:52   #5
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Redvulture61 
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I post it because its allowed and its better i vent my anger here than on the tables as that is expensive. Now go troll somewhere else why dont you because trolling is against the rules. There is also an issues which can be debated from this thread if online poker has gotten worse or better over the years. It would also not surprise me if you are just posting to earn mob points as well since they all come in blocks. Big Smile Big Smile

Edited by Redvulture61 (Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 06:59 GMT)


     
  5-Sep-12, 07:10   #6
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Macubaas 
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I saw some threads in the past and frankly i've seen a lot of weird decisions so i do not think it's that important to think why he did that: he did it simply because it's weak.

I always thought that improving your own game it's much more important in poker than anything else.

     
  5-Sep-12, 07:15   #7
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jessthehuman 

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I don't get it, first hand opponent semi-bluffed and was unlucky to run into a set, but luckily on the river their flush draw hit. 2nd hand just standard cooler.

     
  5-Sep-12, 07:30   #8
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Redvulture61 
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I still think that online poker has gotten worse over the years then better. Yes the games have gotten more aggressive but in all the wrong spots. In fact what people call being aggressive making dark tunnel bluffs with no idea what there trying to achieve is actually not being aggressive but shows a complete misunderstanding of the game. I don't understand how some people can call a player good that plays a vpip of 80% or limps 80% of the hands they play. Ofcourse these guys are great to have at your table but they seem to get the better of me at the most inappropriate of times EG late in an MTT.

     
  5-Sep-12, 07:43   #9
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pochui 

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poker hasn't gotten any better or worse- it just evolves constantly- this is normal, it is happening in any sport or business- people are always looking for ways to get the results they want- if you want more solid game, you have to pick carefully what to play- i.e. heads up sng's with pl, or fl will not make you say that people are over aggressive, since you will be able to control th aggression yourself...

     
  5-Sep-12, 07:49   #10
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Redvulture61 
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Edited by Redvulture61 (Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 07:56 GMT)


     
  5-Sep-12, 08:14   #11
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Mysik86 

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In first hand - OK... this was pretty fish play...

But in second hand?? I don't know what are you talking about?
He had Queen of clubs Queen of diamonds hand, you had King of clubs King of hearts - so WHY DID YOU CALL HIM A FISH ???
Are you suggesting, that he should fold QQ ?? I don't get it...

     
  5-Sep-12, 08:21   #12
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Redvulture61 
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I called him a fish because he was limping 80% of hands prior over a sample of 50 and running over the table with both coolers and suckouts.

     
  5-Sep-12, 08:21   #13
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sadamman 

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DUDE!
Disagree

This is fucking ridiculous. For a start 77 vs jq, that is the definition of a race. Pre flop you raised a callable amount from his point of view. Maybe even from your own point of view in his situation if you weren't looking through the eyes of a loser atm. Post flop it was a bad play yes, but you don't know what he was thinking. Maybe he thought you were bluffing or had a hand he could get you off.

2nd hand. WTF! DUDE! Disagree Not even worth posting.

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1st hand you're also saying you were giving him s**t about his play. Maybe thats the reason he done this. Its happened to me many a time when I get angry in the chatbox. Show some respect in future. Infact. Heres a lil' tip. DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL IN THE CHATBOX.

Edited by sadamman (Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 08:30 GMT)


     
  5-Sep-12, 08:43   #14
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Redvulture61 
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  5-Sep-12, 08:44   #15
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sadamman 

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Posted by Redvulture61:
I called him a fish because he was limping 80% of hands prior over a sample of 50 and running over the table with both coolers and suckouts.


     
  5-Sep-12, 08:45   #16
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  5-Sep-12, 08:46   #17
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sadamman 

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Maybe you meant you called him a fish in this thread. But still its not an assumption its a misunderstanding.

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Retard?

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How do I look like a moron I look like somebody whos misunderstood. You look like a teenager whos just lost his first hand and has to take it out on the world because its not his fault. It can't be his fault.

Edited by sadamman (Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 08:50 GMT)


     
  5-Sep-12, 08:55   #18
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MarcWinz 

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Posted by Redvulture61:
Here are some nice examples of how play has gotten worse.


PokerStars Hand #85718888202: Tournament #615010073, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2012/09/05 1:38:07 ET
Table '615010073 29' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Joker66638 (4030 in chips)
Seat 2: redvulture61 (2766 in chips)
Seat 3: bramstalker7 (3646 in chips)
Seat 4: tavospi (3183 in chips)
Seat 5: alou899 (3217 in chips)
Seat 6: MessiahKana (3956 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: vicyar (4424 in chips)
Seat 8: kvanko19 (2480 in chips)
Seat 9: gustavoj577 (4909 in chips)
tavospi: posts small blind 25
alou899: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redvulture61 [7d 7h]
MessiahKana: folds
vicyar: folds
kvanko19: folds
gustavoj577: folds
Joker66638: folds
redvulture61: raises 100 to 150
bramstalker7: folds
tavospi: calls 125
alou899: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [6s 8h 2s]
tavospi: checks
alou899: checks
redvulture61: bets 250
tavospi: calls 250
alou899: folds
*** TURN *** [6s 8h 2s] 7 of clubs
tavospi: checks
redvulture61: bets 700
tavospi: raises 2083 to 2783 and is all-in
redvulture61: calls 1666 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (417) returned to tavospi
*** RIVER *** [6s 8h 2s 7c] Ace of spades
MessiahKana has returned
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tavospi: shows [Qs Js] (a flush, Ace high)
redvulture61: shows [7d 7h] (three of a kind, Sevens)
tavospi collected 5682 from pot
redvulture61 finished the tournament in 1167th place




PokerStars Hand #85718608862: Tournament #615011152, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2012/09/05 1:19:30 ET
Table '615011152 17' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: 1itsonagain (9678 in chips)
Seat 2: thekiwikid (10727 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: mouche_02 (7944 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: ste4dym0bbin (13886 in chips)
Seat 5: _CJ_550 (12130 in chips)
Seat 6: redvulture61 (15936 in chips)
Seat 7: eazykre (11395 in chips)
Seat 8: firbh (12615 in chips)
Seat 9: bandidoMTS (6274 in chips) is sitting out
1itsonagain: posts the ante 50
thekiwikid: posts the ante 50
mouche_02: posts the ante 50
ste4dym0bbin: posts the ante 50
_CJ_550: posts the ante 50
redvulture61: posts the ante 50
eazykre: posts the ante 50
firbh: posts the ante 50
bandidoMTS: posts the ante 50
_CJ_550: posts small blind 200
redvulture61: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redvulture61 [Kc Kh]
eazykre: raises 1200 to 1600
firbh: folds
bandidoMTS: folds
1itsonagain: folds
thekiwikid: folds
mouche_02: folds
ste4dym0bbin: folds
_CJ_550: folds
redvulture61: raises 2800 to 4400
eazykre: calls 2800
*** FLOP *** [7h Qs 5h]
redvulture61: bets 9450
eazykre: calls 6945 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (2505) returned to redvulture61
*** TURN *** [7h Qs 5h] 3 of diamonds
*** RIVER *** [7h Qs 5h 3d] Ace of clubs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
redvulture61: shows [Kc Kh] (a pair of Kings)
eazykre: shows [Qc Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
eazykre collected 23340 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 23340 | Rake 0
Board [7h Qs 5h 3d Ac]
Seat 1: 1itsonagain folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: thekiwikid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mouche_02 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ste4dym0bbin (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: _CJ_550 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: redvulture61 (big blind) showed [Kc Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 7: eazykre showed [Qc Qd] and won (23340) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 8: firbh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: bandidoMTS folded before Flop (didn't bet)




Disgusting.



Hi RedVulture.
I think you may need to understand that not all people play the same way you do. You may think that these plays are wrong, but they are not really. I think you may need to understand the theory of M & Q. I am sure some people on this site know about these theories/ plays. If you read Harrington on Hold'em (Expert stategy for NO limit Tournaments), you will probably understand how/ why people act the way they do even if you don't agree with them.

GL to you all..........................

Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  5-Sep-12, 08:57   #19
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Redvulture61 
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Edited by Redvulture61 (Wednesday, September 05, 2012 @ 09:05 GMT)


     
  5-Sep-12, 09:06   #20
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sadamman 

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You're just the biggest twat on earth. No I don't look like a moron. It was a misunderstanding. Can you not comprehend that I'm stoned and have only just woke up.

When have I said I'm the best player on earth. I haven't even acted like I am, I'm just trying to enlighten people. TAG is not the most profitable play style. Its good for noobs until they get a good gut but LAG is way more profitable. Thats all I've ever tried to get across. Regardless of what an arrogant 19 year old thinks.

     
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