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  6-Sep-12, 11:10   #1
Call or fold 0 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 2414
Known Players:
UTG2: $2,51 - 126 bb
UTG3: $2,14 - 107 bb
MP1: $1,87 - 94 bb
MP2: $2,06 - 103 bb
MP3: $2,02 - 101 bb
CO: $2,22 - 111 bb
BU: $0,83 - 42 bb
SB: $0,83 - 42 bb
BB: $2,55 - 128 bb

0.01/0.02 No Limit Hold'em (9 Handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with THeart , TDiamond
SB posts small blind ($0,01), BB posts big blind ($0,02), 4 folds, Hero raises to $0,08, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls

Flop: ($0,25 - 12.50 bb) KHeart , 9Diamond , 7Heart (3 Players)
BB bets $0,08, Hero calls, CO folds

Turn: ($0,41 - 20.50 bb) 2Heart (2 Players)
BB bets $0,08, Hero calls

River: ($0,57 - 28.50 bb) KSpade (2 Players)
BB bets $0,16, Hero calls

Is ok to call this minibets or fold after flop?

  6-Sep-12, 11:16   #2

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 6471
It's OK either way really.. It's always tricky and it's kind of weird when they donk-bet the flop (when I say donk bet, I mean lead). It's always hard to react, because if they've made a strong hand, most likely they're going to wait for you to C-bet and get some value (check raise, or check-raise the turn or something).

The donk-lead is always strange.. I think you played it fine, fwiw - if you call the flop and turn you basically have to call that river; another K is a pretty good card for you to see.

Consider your pot-odds too, with those tiny bets they were making, your call on the river doesn't have to be good that often for it to be the right call.

  6-Sep-12, 12:02   #3
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 1885
I think the call on the flop is marginal. I think more often than not they have a weak kicker and they bet small to control the pot. I don't mind the call as you have the 10h meaning you can't hit a card that gives him the flush and improves your hand. I wouldn't normally be against a raise either as you can easily represent a king and you get him to fold his weak hand, the problem is that at this level there are too many donks who will call with top pair no kicker.

Once you call the flop it's standard to call the turn. If his hand improved you'd expect him to bet stronger. I think you have to call the river at this donk-filled level, 16c is just a ridiculously small bet for 57c but I wouldn't expect to win as there's not many hands you can beat. But as Jess said your call on the river only has to be good 28% of the time for you to justify calling. And with such strange betting he's more likely to be weak than strong.

Actually scratch that. It should be good 18% of the time. You're putting 16c more into a total pot of 89c !

Edited by awood88 (Thursday, September 06, 2012 @ 12:08 GMT)

  6-Sep-12, 12:21   #4

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 6471
lol I thought your 18% was wrong, but too many drinks.. You're right 16 / (57 + 16 +16) = .179

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