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  11-Sep-12, 12:14   #1
Another day another bad beat -3 
Redvulture61 
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Edited by Redvulture61 (Tuesday, September 11, 2012 @ 12:26 GMT)


     
  11-Sep-12, 12:29   #2
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sadamman 

Joined: Jan '12
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Lol you're so funny.

Don't start getting racist just because you can't hack losing a STANDARD RACE. If this was an MTT it was even more STANDARD.

qq vs aj
wins:71.82% 27.78%
ties:0.4% 0.4%

Go and learn odds mate because thats not so statistically impossible.

This is the reason I don't play tag. Too much folding just to get had on hands like this.

Edited by sadamman (Tuesday, September 11, 2012 @ 12:33 GMT)


     
  11-Sep-12, 12:32   #3
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Redvulture61 
Joined: Jan '12
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Posted by sadamman:
Lol you're so funny.

Don't start getting racist just because you can't hack losing a STANDARD RACE. If this was an MTT it was even more STANDARD.

qq vs aj
wins:71.82% 27.78%
ties:0.4% 0.4%



Go and learn odds mate because thats not so statistically impossible.

This is the reason I don't play lag. Too much folding just to get had on hands like this.



Hahaha idiot. 71% favourite is hardly a race. A race in poker is defined as a 58 42% situation at the most. EG AK Vs QQ. Get your definitions right because you show a profound amount of ignorance by making these statements. Anytime you get it in as 70% favourite or more and lose its classified as a suckout. Also on the flop this player has mere 10% chance of winning which is statistically unlikely to occur. By informing of this i hope i can educate some of the not good players of this site.

Edited by Redvulture61 (Tuesday, September 11, 2012 @ 12:36 GMT)


     
  11-Sep-12, 12:34   #4
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sadamman 

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Hardly statistically improbable. Statistically improbable in poker is defined as a 0-10%. Now go troll somewhere else with your standard noob s**t you fish.

     
  11-Sep-12, 12:41   #5
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Redvulture61 
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Posted by sadamman:
Hardly statistically improbable. Statistically improbable in poker is defined as a 0-10%. Now go troll somewhere else with your standard noob s**t you fish.


The villains chance of winning on the flop is 10% you fish great job on making yourself look like a complete ignorant fish congratz. You make yourself look stupider every time you post. Please keep doing this because you make me better by providing me with much needed LOLS you fish. Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile I can only imagine your OPR stats are if i had to make a educated guess i would think it would be in the range of a negative 59-100% ROI.

Edited by Redvulture61 (Tuesday, September 11, 2012 @ 12:45 GMT)


     
  11-Sep-12, 12:45   #6
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sadamman 

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Yep ok well just let other people comment and see.

Wheter it was a race or not.

STANDARD SHOWDOWN.

For an MTT EVEN MORE STANDARD.

If your not a fish noob you should know this.

STANDARD.

     
  11-Sep-12, 12:47   #7
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pyro91 
Joined: Aug '12
Location: Canada
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Getting out drawn & a bad beat are two different things.. that's not considered a bad beat from those who know poker.

And yes his call was on the donkey side of things... but shoving your whole stack PF is just as much of a donk move. But 99% of the players that do shove like you did PF don't think so and will never understand. Once you commit it all your risking a race and your tourney life.

His read on you might have been one of weakness because you shoved maybe trying to protect something like 77-1010 in which case he was willing to take the draw and race with 2 overs

Maybe next time you save some chips see the crap flop and you get a chance to bet the 8 6 2 and get him to fold to you because if he did have that read and was a solid player they will drop the AJ on the flop.

my rookie 2 cents.


     
  11-Sep-12, 12:48   #8
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sadamman 

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Posted by Redvulture61:
Posted by sadamman:
Hardly statistically improbable. Statistically improbable in poker is defined as a 0-10%. Now go troll somewhere else with your standard noob s**t you fish.


The villains chance of winning on the flop is 10% you fish great job on making yourself look like a complete ignorant fish congratz. You make yourself look stupider every time you post. Please keep doing this because you make me better by providing me with much needed LOLS you fish. Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile I can only imagine your OPR stats are if i had to make a educated guess i would think it would be in the range of a negative 59-100% ROI.


What have stats got to do with it. I play for fun. I'm not some kid who thinks hes the best and knows everything when he probably hasn't won nothing. Then gets angry. Go f**k yourself you stupid fish.

     
  11-Sep-12, 12:49   #9
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Redvulture61 
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Posted by sadamman:
Yep ok well just let other people comment and see.

Wheter it was a race or not.

STANDARD SHOWDOWN.

For an MTT EVEN MORE STANDARD.

If your not a fish noob you should know this.

STANDARD.



Here you go mr negative 59% ROI

RACE: A situation where the equity of two different hands is virtually a coin-flip(50%-50%). Very common situation especially in tournaments as blinds escalate.

Example: Some hands that would be races: 55 vs. AKs, 66 vs. J9, QQ vs. AK, etc.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/poker-dictionary/race.php

     
  11-Sep-12, 12:53   #10
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sadamman 

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I'd say anything around 30% is a race. But thats semantics definitions arent exact everybody defines things differently.

     
  11-Sep-12, 13:04   #11
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Don99 
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Donk kangaroo, shut up!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=phfH6akwRsA&feature=plcp

     
  11-Sep-12, 13:33   #12
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jessthehuman 

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I always think of a race as hands like KQ vs A10 and JK vs A6, etc - I think of hands like QQ vs AK and 66 vs 10J as FLIPS.

But as sadamman says, it's semantics really and you're missing the point. And the point he originally made is just because you took a beat it's no reason to get RACIST and I agree.

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Posted by Redvulture61:
Posted by sadamman:
Hardly statistically improbable. Statistically improbable in poker is defined as a 0-10%. Now go troll somewhere else with your standard noob s**t you fish.


The villains chance of winning on the flop is 10% you fish great job on making yourself look like a complete ignorant fish congratz.


You just made yourself look look like a complete idiot, because all the chips went in pre-flop not on the flop. So villains % to win on the flop is completely irrelevant.

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also - who gives a s**t, it was just some crappy freeroll.. What makes you so angry about losing a hand in a freeroll that you feel the need to make racist/rant post about it on here?

     
  11-Sep-12, 14:55   #13
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rbdflyboy 

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...mmm
wud have 3bet/fold in this spot...live to fight another day...my stack isn't punked. btw although ur ahead at the same time ur dominated by a one outer, it hit. What if AJ flopped a boat?...when one commits...better poker players take what comes and move on.

     
  11-Sep-12, 15:08   #14
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occultum 
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lol .. that gets you pissed? You should really work on your mental game if you want to make enough money to keep playing the game.. no offense intended of course.
It's a standard situation that can be easily digested. Yesterday i just got really raped like never been before .. lost to 2 outs of my opponent like 10 HU's games almost in a row.. that is getting badbeated and it hurts. Still punch in the table only came in like the last loss and it was too much to bare already. Question is .. usually we lose because : we think we are better and we should be winning .. card dead.. and mistakes. Ocasionaly we get badbeated/injustice loss or just running bad.. but in those cases it's the usual +EV decision that in the long run will get you profit.

     
  11-Sep-12, 15:19   #15
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stevephenom 
Joined: Jun '08
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i gave up playing on small stakes cash tables cos i was sick of boris or vladimir calling my aa or kk ater i re raise them all in and they call with crap like 10 3 or 4 j offsuit and they seem to hit most of the time , i want to lay poerr , not bingo with some idiots who go all in with any hand - going all in pre flop with pocket rockets but only winning 20-30 % is ridiculous , that why i prefer slow playing tournies til the firdt break so these idiot cant rebuy anymore , then wait til i have the nuts and send them out lol!

     
  11-Sep-12, 15:23   #16
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awood88 
Joined: Feb '08
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Lmao. So many things ridiculous about the op that I actually thought it was a joke. Where to begin-

AJ against me a tight player who had not gotten out of line yet for the whole MTT
yet shoves 28bb against a raise of 2bb

These players always happen to get lucky when they need it the most
You are actually suggesting that people from eastern europe are luckier than donks from the rest of the world as if it's a magical place where people grow luck on trees

i am going to always vent my anger here
yeah I've noticed how all your posts seem to be really angry even when the topic doesn't require it. I would suggest therapy over ranting and trolling a forum.

FREEROLL
If you can't beat micro-stakes then I would suggest your skills are not as great as you think they are, and FYI although I wouldn't term this as a race exactly, if you go all-in at the drop of a hat preflop you can expect more bad beats, there are aces in the deck believe it or not, if you shove QQ all the time you will probably lose with them quite a bit.

     
  11-Sep-12, 18:13   #17
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Mober 
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No matter what you cant avoid the bad beats unless you stop playing poker Smile
And it will happen with more ethnicities the more you play.
Statistically now it will happen more with the countries that have the bigger player field Smile

     
  11-Sep-12, 20:08   #18
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pochui 

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i see a battle between redvulture and sadamman is getting more serious with every post by redvulture...dudes maybe you should decide who's who over a heads up session...whatever stakes (even play money), but of course old way of piling sh1t at each other also works anytime Big Smile

     
  11-Sep-12, 22:01   #19
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sadamman 

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Posted by pochui:
i see a battle between redvulture and sadamman is getting more serious with every post by redvulture...dudes maybe you should decide who's who over a heads up session...whatever stakes (even play money), but of course old way of piling sh1t at each other also works anytime Big Smile


Lets go! Mobster

     
  11-Sep-12, 22:15   #20
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noonlion 

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RedVulture - you are priceless in your arrogance at how awesome you are at poker.

So good at poker, I can't see the original post you made because you got clowned by making a big deal out of nothing by the looks of things.

I'm sure you're not a horrible player but you seem to misunderstand a lot and anytime anyone challenges you on something you go apeshit lol. Learn to actually argue a point. Aww crap!

     
  11-Sep-12, 22:27   #21
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zeroster 

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Really?? Are we bothering to reply to obvious and blatant trolling?

The thread should have just died after Redvulture61's first reply to sadamman.
As soon as somebody starts insulting another member for giving his opinion on a posted hand it's time for everyone to turn their backs on the thread. Don't give the OBVIOUS troll the attention he's craving.

Edited by zeroster (Tuesday, September 11, 2012 @ 22:32 GMT)


     
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