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Hello all if you have read my first thread about unfair mtt rules then you will know what i try to explain here
i have put in that thread the next hand off that hand history they have try to fix it so please read it because if there is false play in online poker
we need to help each other against these money grinders
but also here the next hand history have a look at it and tell me if i have calculated it right please i need some advice off people whit expierience
in this hand YDdraiGgoch has 1460 chips i have 3150 they say thats not treu but okay lets asume i
have 3150 he went all in in this pot so 3150 - 1460 chips is 1690 so i have 1690 chips back from
him but there is one other guy in the pot he loses from me and i should get 160 chips also from him
so 1690 + 160 chips is a total off 1850 so tell me how is it possible that they only return 1610 chips back to me
so if you read my first thread about this + this one i cant do more to show you what i have seen at that table well let me know if i have calculated it right
Echt spelen voor Texas Holdem, 10 Sep 2012, Spelnummer 4554768538 Spelgegevens Spelnummer 4554768538 Naam speeltafel €50 UnibetFreeroll NLHE Type speeltafel Multi Table-toernooi Wedlimiet No Limit Begintijd 10 Sep 2012 2:50 PM Eindtijd 10 Sep 2012 2:51 PM Actieve spelers 10 Beschikbare fiches op de tafel 0.50 / 1.00 Blinds 0.25 / 0.50 Rake 0.00
Openingsinzetronde Geen communitykaarten
Spelers Kaarten Acties jezups4 (D) - Folded - - - BulgarianPro SB 10.00 Passen - Sitting Out - - - petje1 BB 20.00 Folded - - - lillaego81 Called 20.00 Called 80.00 - - - ismael1976 Called 20.00 Called 80.00 - - - SashoAgain Folded - - - - dropplease Raised 100.00 - - - - Boi1301 Passen - Sitting Out - - - - extrabuxador Passen - Sitting Out - - - - YDdraigGoch Called 100.00 - - - - Totaal pot 430.00
Inzetronde Flop
Spelers Kaarten Acties jezups4 (D) - - - - - BulgarianPro - - - - - petje1 - - - - - lillaego81 Checked Folded - - - ismael1976 Checked Went All-In 3,050.00 Player Betting Money Returned 1,610.00 - - SashoAgain - - - - - dropplease Bet 430.00 Went All-In 1,010.00 - - - Boi1301 - - - - - extrabuxador - - - - - YDdraigGoch Called 430.00 Went All-In 930.00 - - - Totaal pot 4,670.00
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Posted by issi1976: ismael1976 Checked Went All-In 3,050.00 Player Betting Money Returned 1,610.00 - -
I don't know how you get 3150 when the HH shows 3050 is what you shoved with. I'd tend to side with the site on this one, as I'm fairly certain their software is capable of doing basic math. Perhaps something more sinister is going on
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Spelers Kaarten Acties jezups4 (D) - Folded - - - BulgarianPro SB 10.00 Passen - Sitting Out - - - petje1 BB 20.00 Folded - - - lillaego81 Called 20.00 Called 80.00 - - - ismael1976 Called 20.00 Called 80.00 - - - <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< SashoAgain Folded - - - - dropplease Raised 100.00 - - - - Boi1301 Passen - Sitting Out - - - - extrabuxador Passen - Sitting Out - - - - YDdraigGoch Called 100.00 - - - - Totaal pot 430.00
well you didnt count the first 100 chips in front dont you see its 3150 not 3050 what you say look good first mall blind is 20 + the 80 = 100
+ the 3050 = total of 3150 retribution !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dont think i am joking i already contacted KSA is dutch autorities and now i have contact whit the police here
i am not joking i am serious the KSA told me to go to the police and to put it black and white on paper they also told me
unibet is not allowed to provide poker in holland and that they already had several warnings and that they have to change things otherwise there will be sanctions against them
but hey no problem you can go along whit the site its your own choice good luck you will need it
Edited by issi1976 (14 September 2012 @ 08:45 GMT)
10 Sep 2012 02:50:35 - Texas Holdem 4554766629 €50 UnibetFreeroll NLHE 1,650.00 3,150.00 4554766629|1 <<YOU SEE I HAD RIGHT ON 3150 CHIPS)
10 Sep 2012 02:51:26 - Texas Holdem 4554768538 €50 UnibetFreeroll NLHE - 1,380.00 1,770.00 4554768538|1 < (look at this and that says 1770 chips before it says that it had
returned 1610 chips and look als so to that it says that i lost -1380 thats impossible DdraigGoch
had 1460 chips so i would lose 1460 chips right? and i win 160 chips from dropplease so
1460-160 = 1300 if they where counting right it had to say -1300 they have messed whit this
hand history i tell you or it is a bug dont you see the mistakes in the calculating
On the flop you all went all in and you were returned 1,610 chips (you made total bet of 3,150 and dropplease made a total call of 1,540 including his preflop betting) and this was paid back to you immediately. Correct me if I'm wrong but that is what the results you posted say.
There is also a side pot of 160 apart from the main pot as YDdraigGoch had an even smaller stack (1460) that is the 80 more that dropplease has in the pot and the 80 more you had in the pot since you were already returned 1,610 yes?
you come in second and receive the second pot of 160.
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the problem is that i didnt have those 3150 chips you see here above in this history you see that i have 3150 but on the table i had in this pot only 1700 chips your calculation is right here i made a mistake i try to find out how they put those chips in this history because i had realy only 1700 chips and not the 3150 that i won from the pot before this one
but i am going to leave this story why should i behave my self like a fool or an idiot while i am trying to do something good
its realy not that i want to take some site down or talk bad about a poker site but if something like this happens it seems that you are alone on this planet
Edited by issi1976 (14 September 2012 @ 10:58 GMT)
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If your stack went up to 3150 in the previous hand, how would you not start this hand with 3150? Also in your first post you said you should have been returned 1690 chips when the next biggest bet was 1610 chips less than you. This is why you were returned 1610 not 1690. You were not returned the excess 1610 plus 160 because the hand had not finished yet. you were returned the 1610 then the hand was played out untill the end and you were paid the side pot of 160. So in total you got the 1610 plus 160 at the end = 1770. What chips are you missing? And why do you keep creating more threads about this? keep it in one thread
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Sorry cant read your handhistory its too complex. Dont you have a standard one which is much much easier? Its problably some kind of sidepot, sometimes there are 2 sidepots you know.
