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  21-Sep-12, 20:02   #1
I play bad ? 0 
Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 1052
#Game No : 12130588824
***** Hand History for Game 12130588824 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:73054774 Level:8 Blinds-Antes(125/250 -25) - Friday, September 21, 22:53:13 EEST 2012
Table The House Daily Giveaway (2737588) Table #175 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10/10
Seat 2: DubbeleD ( 14,521 )
Seat 10: Finchi83 ( 9,724 )
Seat 3: Kate-Iss ( 70 )
Seat 1: SnaxTop ( 30 )
Seat 7: advokatroman ( 85 )
Seat 9: ellin73 ( 5,088 )
Seat 6: finel_corina ( 125 )
Seat 4: m4ke33 ( 25,188 )
Seat 5: scarpiniciule ( 9,520 )
Seat 8: ufimec555 ( 8,997 )
Trny:73054774 Level:8
Blinds-Antes(125/250 -25)
SnaxTop posts ante [25]
DubbeleD posts ante [25]
Kate-Iss posts ante [25]
m4ke33 posts ante [25]
scarpiniciule posts ante [25]
finel_corina posts ante [25]
advokatroman posts ante [25]
ufimec555 posts ante [25]
ellin73 posts ante [25]
Finchi83 posts ante [25]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to scarpiniciule [ Kh Kc ]
advokatroman folds
finel_corina folds
ufimec555 folds
ellin73 folds
Finchi83 folds
SnaxTop folds
DubbeleD folds
Kate-Iss folds
m4ke33 calls [125]
scarpiniciule raises [1,250]
m4ke33 raises [3,750]
scarpiniciule is all-In [7,995]
m4ke33 calls [5,495]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, Ac, Kd ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
m4ke33 shows [ Ad, Ah ]a flush, Ace high.
scarpiniciule shows [ Kh, Kc ]three of a kind, Kings.
m4ke33 wins 19,240 chips from the main pot with a flush, Ace high.
Player scarpiniciule finished in 1,224. Aww crap!

How should I play next time ?
What need to change at my game ?
Advice?

Edited by Doarulle (Friday, September 21, 2012 @ 20:04 GMT)


     
  21-Sep-12, 20:37   #2
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sadamman 

Joined: Jan '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 1204
You done nothing wrong. Play it the same way next time. Its a cooler.

     
  21-Sep-12, 21:01   #3
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rbdflyboy 

Joined: Apr '11
Location: Canada
Age: 60 (M)
Posts: 1222
You were beat on the flop set over set and the four flush is an aside. You cud have folded to the reraise...most don't. Nagreanu says one shud never feel bad losing with KK. Near the money I may have folded...lots of short stacks playin shove/fold any two cards. Have had lots of A's cracked that way. GL next time.

     
  21-Sep-12, 21:24   #4
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 3361
I would have probably have played it exactly like you did. I've lost to this very same hand on more then one occasion and when your holding K,K aqnd hit the 3rd K on the flop what can be said. I mean how are you to play it any different unless you fold and I know most wouldn't fold thinking they were up against A,A and then hitting a third A.

     
  21-Sep-12, 21:50   #5
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Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 1052
Thank you all Thumbs Up
I don't know why LIVE i take 2 or 3 bad-beats on a tournament and online i take 999999 bad-beats

     
  21-Sep-12, 21:57   #6
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 3361
Doar, I don't know if this makes you feel any better, but I just got my A,A, crushed by someone hitting a K then rivered a Q for 2 pair which stole half my stack from 20,000+ chips down to 10,000+. The hand directly after I had K,K which the same player smashed with 8,8 by hitting a third 8 on the turn which wipeds me clean right before the bubble. I wouldn't change the way I played them. It just happens some times. Sad

     
  22-Sep-12, 01:13   #7
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Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 1052
Posted by Greenmohave:
Doar, I don't know if this makes you feel any better, but I just got my A,A, crushed by someone hitting a K then rivered a Q for 2 pair which stole half my stack from 20,000+ chips down to 10,000+. The hand directly after I had K,K which the same player smashed with 8,8 by hitting a third 8 on the turn which wipeds me clean right before the bubble. I wouldn't change the way I played them. It just happens some times. Sad

i really don't know what to say :-?? i really can't understand why live i don't get so many bad beats and online i got too many... AA live shove = 99% win... AA online shove = 20% win... Aww crap!

     
  22-Sep-12, 02:33   #8
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
Posted by Doarulle:

AA live shove = 99% win... AA online shove = 20% win... Aww crap!


You should brush up on your probabilities.. If your AA is winning 99% live, then the Live poker you play is rigged too.

     
  22-Sep-12, 09:21   #9
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8638
i don't know what u wanna hear? fold kk? slow play? min raise? reraise? all in immediately? everything works- in the long run kk is still+ev and this is the thing you must concentrate on- yeah you will run into aa or even 25o and will be beaten some times, but no one say you will win 100% of the hands- even 55% is cool cause it makes u a winner in the longterm

     
  22-Sep-12, 12:40   #10
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 1372
Nothing to see here, just another player that thinks pocket aces or pocket kings have an automatic right to win.

No, that's a bit harsh of me really. Yeah I know it hurts when it happens but those percentages "AA live shove = 99% win... AA online shove = 20% win" really?? Selective memory I think

Edited by zeroster (Saturday, September 22, 2012 @ 12:48 GMT)


     
  22-Sep-12, 14:00   #11
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Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 1052
I know the prob is ~80% AA shove... but live isn't rake... so live i think AA shove = more than 80%

     
  22-Sep-12, 16:40   #12
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Bassets 
Joined: Nov '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 47
To ask yourself wether it was a bad play or not seems pretty stupid considering you had the kings.
You can't fold them preflop and after the flop your screwed.
If you start to overanalyze and folding kings(especially in big tournaments where you don't know anyone)you'll lose more then you would gain.


     
  22-Sep-12, 17:07   #13
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
Posted by Doarulle:
I know the prob is ~80% AA shove... but live isn't rake... so live i think AA shove = more than 80%


Rake doesn't affect the probability of one hand beating another.

     
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