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  9-Oct-12, 03:15   #1
Why you should never slow play pocket aces 0 
sadamman 

Joined: Jan '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 1204

dealer="7"
<player seat="0" nickname="schnurE" balance="$1500.00"
<player seat="1" nickname="UM4DBRO" balance="$1500.00"
<player seat="2" nickname="UtangForEver" balance="$1430.00"
<player seat="3" nickname="sadamman123" balance="$1620.00"
<player seat="4" nickname="HiffV2" balance="$1425.00"
<player seat="5" nickname="jpipkin" balance="$1500.00"
<player seat="6" nickname="xCKCUNVx" balance="$1495.00"
<player seat="7" nickname="PotStar" balance="$1300.00"
<player seat="8" nickname="brianG350z" balance="$1730.00
"SMALL_BLIND" player="8" amount="10.00"
"BIG_BLIND" player="0" amount="20.00"
"PREFLOP"
"FOLD" player="1"
"FOLD" player="2"
"RAISE" player="3" amount="50.00"
"FOLD" player="4"
"RAISE" player="5" amount="110.00"
"FOLD" player="6"
"FOLD" player="7"
"FOLD"player="8"
"FOLD" player="0"
"CALL" player="3" amount="60.00"
"HOLE" cards="Kd,Qd" player="3" hand="King High"

"COMMUNITY" cards="8h,6d,5s"

POSTFLOP
"CHECK" player="3"
"CHECK" player="5"

"COMMUNITY" cards="8h,6d,5s,Ad"

"POSTTURN"
"CHECK" player="3"
"CHECK" player="5"

"POSTRIVER"
"BET" player="3" amount="100.00"
"RAISE" player="5" amount="200.00"
"RAISE" player="3" amount="600.00"
"ALL_IN" player="5" amount="1190.00"
"CALL" player="3"

"8h,6d,5s,Ad,3d" "Flush Ace High"

SHOWDOWN

"SHOWN" cards="Kd,Qd"
"SHOWN" cards="As,Ac"

     
  9-Oct-12, 05:31   #2
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Mysik86 

Joined: Nov '11
Location: Poland
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 773
That's sad... for him Smile Nice play!

     
  9-Oct-12, 07:06   #3
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rbdflyboy 

Joined: Apr '11
Location: Canada
Age: 60 (M)
Posts: 1222
Just one question...would you have folded to a 4x-6x preflop raise? K one more.., If not what about a pot size cbet on the flop? Last one.., If not what about a shove on the turn? which is what happened here. So I'm guessing with 9 outs you figured you were good to go and hit this time. Wonder what the chat box looked like?

     
  9-Oct-12, 08:02   #4
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 6197
Your play wasnt great either imho Agree

     
  9-Oct-12, 15:45   #5
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
He played that hand totally wrong, with a good play he would have won that hand on the flop for sure...

He definately doesn't know the importance and strengt of a cbet...

     
  9-Oct-12, 18:14   #6
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sadamman 

Joined: Jan '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 1204
Posted by rbdflyboy:
Just one question...would you have folded to a 4x-6x preflop raise? K one more.., If not what about a pot size cbet on the flop? Last one.., If not what about a shove on the turn? which is what happened here. So I'm guessing with 9 outs you figured you were good to go and hit this time. Wonder what the chat box looked like?


Yeah I proabably would have folded to a bigger bet preflop, or a c-bet on the flop, or a big bet on the turn. He done neither. The action happened post river btw, not on the turn. I had to edit the hh to the max because it was in c+ programming language, and I couldn't figure out how to get it in just text. I forgot to put the community cards before the post river action.

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Posted by doomdy:
Your play wasnt great either imho Agree


I know I shouldn't have raised at this stage, from that position, on that hand, but its boring folding all the time

Edited by sadamman (Tuesday, October 09, 2012 @ 18:55 GMT)


     
  9-Oct-12, 18:54   #7
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misty69 

Joined: Oct '11
Location: Belgium
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 8
wow nice Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

     
  9-Oct-12, 19:42   #8
  0 
Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10016
I only slow played aces when i started playing poker.
After some time and watching the results i was getting that way i turned it
to all in preflop, every single time im getting them.

     
  9-Oct-12, 22:44   #9
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Predator1447 
Joined: Oct '12
Location: Belarus
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 42
Once saw a good game.Hero with KQ raises from UTG,all folds,BB calls.Flop was K48-rainbow,without flash draw.Hero raises 1\2 of pot,BB calls.Blank turn not increases any hand.And again hero raises 2\3 of pot.This raise was almost half stek(there was nl100 limit).BB only calls again.And a queen falls on river.The second pair came to our Hero on river.Ofcourse Hero goes all-in with this nuts SmileBB easy call.What an interesting question.What hand had an opponent?The answer is simple.Ofcourse it was a good slowplay with a pair of aces.That is why,I think(and i think its not only my opinion),not very good idea to slowplay with a pair of aces...All good luck on the tables
Cool

     
  10-Oct-12, 12:55   #10
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4764
Nice example. I totally agree with you, I can’t remember the last time I slow played aces, but I can still remember he left me with a punch in the stomach feeling that made me never wanting to repeat it. That doesn’t mean I go all-in pre-flop each time I have it, no, that would also be throwing away one of the best hands one can have, but I play it in a strong way pre-flop, which I think it turns it hard to find about what I have. After a first strong move, you can even go passive on the flop, because you know you have eliminated almost all of those who would play any hand, but never showing fear and trying to go unnoticed, that’s no good when others show higher hands in the hand. To loose with aces is a possibility, but at least it happens in a hand played with strong bets. Angry Evil

     
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