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  12-Oct-12, 15:04   #1
What's the secret for beating micro stakes cash games? 0 
erru9107 
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In cash games, what's the secret for beating the micro stakes? Also, does that secret vary depending on if you're playing No Limit, Pot Limit or Fixed Limit? I'm now talking specifically about Texas Hold'em and not Omaha or any other variation.

My advise regarding all of those types would be patience, patience, patience and even more patience. With the blinds being so small and the donks at the table that'll call everything, you're all set for a +EV game if you just wait for those monster hands. And also, never ever under any circumstances what so ever do you bluff at micro stakes if you want to be a winning player in the long run!

Discuss!

Edited by erru9107 (Friday, October 12, 2012 @ 15:13 GMT)


     
  12-Oct-12, 17:35   #2
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Greenmohave 

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What I've learned about the micro's I've learned from this forum. You already hit the nail on the head knowing that patience is a virtue, but there's a thread here in the forum written by IslandJack that really helped me. It's focus pertains to the micro SnG's and I can honestly say it helped me. Don't get me wrong many others comments / posts also reflect on this topic, but that one thread is well worth looking for. It may date back as far as May or June and yes it would take some searching, but I think you'd find it very helpful.

Good Luck!

     
  12-Oct-12, 18:41   #3
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Macubaas 
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I have to agree with OP here, basically all you need is patience on micro stakes...

You need to play only the good hands really aggressive and thats pretty much it. And one more thing: Do not bluff on micro, someone will definately call!

     
  12-Oct-12, 18:48   #4
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weakminded 

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Discipline !!

Patience off course is a key factor, but you have to be disciplined. If you grow your bankroll it's so tempting to take shots at higher limits or try some fancy plays, don't do it !!

Also play with a strategy. Are you going to play like a nit or a rock, or are you going to control the table with aggressive plays?

so discipline, patience and strategy for me are the key factors of being a successful poker-player.

     
  13-Oct-12, 21:44   #5
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thefly131 
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Indead patience is the word.

and also never bluff on mico stakes, the gamblers there don t see or understand a bluff.

Especially I like to play connected suited cards preflop ( as cheap as possible) as most donk get crazy whe they hit toppair and most of the time do not notice possible streets/flushes on the table.

     
  13-Oct-12, 21:49   #6
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erru9107 
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Posted by thefly131:
Indead patience is the word.

and also never bluff on mico stakes, the gamblers there don t see or understand a bluff.

Especially I like to play connected suited cards preflop ( as cheap as possible) as most donk get crazy whe they hit toppair and most of the time do not notice possible streets/flushes on the table.

I'n exactly the same with those suited connectors. I even play 23s if I can get in on the action for mostly the value of a min raise.

     
  13-Oct-12, 22:41   #7
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djpremier 
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I agree on almost everything on this..
But I think cbetting on a missed flop works pretty well, especially when you are in position..
If the opponent checks on flop before me I cbet every time and most of the times I win the pot..
And when I get called I just check/fold unless I hit the turn/river..
And when I get raised I immediately fold..

And if the opponent bets before me I fold unless I get the odds for some draws
And with big hands I (mostly) just keep on betting aggressively..


This seems to work with me..not sure if there's something to do otherwise (let me know)

But yeah the main thing is patience. Thumbs Up

     
  14-Oct-12, 13:38   #8
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Serpang 
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Patient is standart thing in poker and doesn't mean solve main problem : card dead !!for a long time.
change table...still the same. patient until lost to blind till half of our money (we bring to table )what will you do ? Bluff not always fail, I already try, solve problem when get card dead and (strange) my winning hand is crap card. Someone pro player, and she really good player told : if fail with good card try play crap card ! What do you think ? Smile Smile

     
  14-Oct-12, 15:14   #9
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weakminded 

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Also a good hint to get maximum value out of your game. If you spot a fish on your tabel, make notes on how he plays and follow him! If he moves to another table get to that table, no point in playing against the regulars if you know fishes are swimming nearby. Evil

     
  14-Oct-12, 16:00   #10
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pochui 

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you could do with a superuser account Big Smile another stellar method of beating micro stakes (and any other stakes) is setting up a gang from your friends and sit in decent quantity at the table- colluding is the term here. also consider investing in a decent bot...or you can just play solidly, abc poker is still profitable in the micro stakes in the long run- don't expect to get rich quick.

     
  14-Oct-12, 20:34   #11
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damosk 
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Yep! All the advice here is reaaly great advice, but just lke in live poker you need to try and assess your opponents and play them accordingly.......... I know it not always easy online but there are some tells you can work out!

     
  14-Oct-12, 20:54   #12
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Mysik86 

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Posted by weakminded:
Also a good hint to get maximum value out of your game. If you spot a fish on your tabel, make notes on how he plays and follow him! If he moves to another table get to that table, no point in playing against the regulars if you know fishes are swimming nearby. Evil


Nice advice Smile But this fish can imagine, that you're very creepy and you follow him Big Smile

     
  15-Oct-12, 05:04   #13
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weakminded 

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Posted by Mysik86:
Posted by weakminded:
Also a good hint to get maximum value out of your game. If you spot a fish on your tabel, make notes on how he plays and follow him! If he moves to another table get to that table, no point in playing against the regulars if you know fishes are swimming nearby. Evil


Nice advice Smile But this fish can imagine, that you're very creepy and you follow him Big Smile


Eyes on the money Big Smile if you play at the bigger sites many people won't notice that you're selecting tables to sit next to them. And most of the time when they notice, it's to late and you have their money.

     
  15-Oct-12, 07:47   #14
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thefly131 
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Another thing, try to improve your postflop game.

I personnally try to avoid big raises preflop (except with AA)
With monster hands I raise 3 to 4 BB, when I get a reraise I call and try to avoid the allin.
Even with AK or QQ I try to see the flop first, on micro stakes it s very hard to bluff them away preflop.
A good postflop game is very lucreative and less risky. And don't go crazy with highest pair, won sevral big pots with a str or flush or set versus highest pair on the board (that s when you go allin)

     
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