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  25-Nov-12, 12:16   #1
Freeroll $5000 FTP 0 
Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 1052
Hello mobsters, after almost 2 weeks when i've lost my account on PokerStars, i start to play again on FTP just for freerolls of first depositors...
i have few hands for analize, can someone of you if i played good or i'm totally donk

Full Tilt Poker Game #31510953185: $5,000 First Deposit Freeroll (244361134), Table 473 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:12:05 EET - 2012/11/25 [06:12:05 ET - 2012/11/25]
Seat 1: topsmartie2012 (2,285)
Seat 2: boonen97 (1,935)
Seat 3: JonnyToGood (2,220)
Seat 4: SuntSenzatie (1,970)
Seat 5: lAcA5222 (4,025)
Seat 6: xxxBANIKxxx (1,970), is sitting out
Seat 7: Igor235 (1,640)
Seat 8: --CtarshinA-- (1,955), is sitting out
Seat 9: poseidon16 (1,955), is sitting out
JonnyToGood posts the small blind of 15
SuntSenzatie posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuntSenzatie [8h Ad]
lAcA5222 folds
xxxBANIKxxx folds
Igor235 folds
--CtarshinA-- folds
poseidon16 folds
topsmartie2012 calls 30
boonen97 folds
JonnyToGood folds
SuntSenzatie checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac Td 6c] (Total Pot: 75, 2 Players)
SuntSenzatie bets 30
topsmartie2012 calls 30
*** TURN *** [Ac Td 6c] 5 of spades (Total Pot: 135, 2 Players)
SuntSenzatie bets 30
topsmartie2012 has 15 seconds left to act
topsmartie2012 raises to 60
SuntSenzatie calls 30
*** RIVER *** [Ac Td 6c 5s] 9 of spades (Total Pot: 255, 2 Players)
SuntSenzatie checks
topsmartie2012 bets 420
SuntSenzatie folds
Uncalled bet of 420 returned to topsmartie2012
topsmartie2012 mucks
topsmartie2012 wins the pot (255)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 255 | Rake 0
Board: [Ac Td 6c 5s 9s]
Seat 1: topsmartie2012 collected (255), mucked
Seat 2: boonen97 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: JonnyToGood (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: SuntSenzatie (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 5: lAcA5222 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: xxxBANIKxxx didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Igor235 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: --CtarshinA-- didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: poseidon16 didn't bet (folded)

and this one


Full Tilt Poker Game #31511276345: $5,000 First Deposit Freeroll (244361134), Table 215 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:04:16 EET - 2012/11/25 [07:04:16 ET - 2012/11/25]
Seat 1: PokerDeluXeX (9,125)
Seat 2: vkuzma (7,250)
Seat 3: mpire12 (170), is sitting out
Seat 4: DARKBLUFFPOKER (135), is sitting out
Seat 5: SuntSenzatie (9,622)
Seat 6: Royal Jelle (155), is sitting out
Seat 7: swaytogo (220), is sitting out
Seat 8: betopfz (7,040)
PokerDeluXeX antes 25
vkuzma antes 25
mpire12 antes 25
DARKBLUFFPOKER antes 25
SuntSenzatie antes 25
Royal Jelle antes 25
swaytogo antes 25
betopfz antes 25
PokerDeluXeX posts the big blind of 240
jany100 sits down
jany100 is sitting out
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuntSenzatie [8c Ts]
vkuzma folds
mpire12 folds
DARKBLUFFPOKER folds
SuntSenzatie calls 240
Royal Jelle folds
swaytogo folds
betopfz has 15 seconds left to act
betopfz calls 240
PokerDeluXeX checks
*** FLOP *** [8s 5h 5c] (Total Pot: 920, 3 Players)
PokerDeluXeX checks
SuntSenzatie bets 240
betopfz folds
PokerDeluXeX calls 240
*** TURN *** [8s 5h 5c] 10 of clubs (Total Pot: 1,400, 2 Players)
PokerDeluXeX checks
SuntSenzatie bets 240
PokerDeluXeX raises to 720
SuntSenzatie calls 480
*** RIVER *** [8s 5h 5c Tc] 5 of diamonds (Total Pot: 2,840, 2 Players)
PokerDeluXeX bets 7,900, and is all in
SuntSenzatie has 15 seconds left to act
SuntSenzatie has requested TIME
SuntSenzatie folds
Uncalled bet of 7,900 returned to PokerDeluXeX
PokerDeluXeX mucks
PokerDeluXeX wins the pot (2,840)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,840 | Rake 0
Board: [8s 5h 5c Tc 5d]
Seat 1: PokerDeluXeX (big blind) collected (2,840), mucked
Seat 2: vkuzma folded before the Flop
Seat 3: mpire12 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: DARKBLUFFPOKER folded before the Flop
Seat 5: SuntSenzatie folded on the River
Seat 6: Royal Jelle folded before the Flop
Seat 7: swaytogo folded before the Flop
Seat 8: betopfz (button) folded on the Flop

if i play wrong explain me where Big Smile thank you.
Accept all critics Worship except playing any two cuz few players was sit-out...


P.S. still playing, nickname = suntsenzatie 7k stack blinds 250-500 ante 50 ... almost 14 blinds... anyone else play?

Edited by Doarulle (Sunday, November 25, 2012 @ 12:22 GMT)


     
  25-Nov-12, 12:41   #2
  0 
jovicakralj 

Joined: Nov '10
Location: Serbia
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 2075
Sorry, dont get me wrong but you seem to be calling station. In 1st hand I believe its good fold. In second... not. It will be in lot of times split and also you can expect many times that he is bluffing there. Also, on turn you called his reraise. So, you dont believe him to have a 5. If that is case then you should reraise him right away since he will have KT AT QT many times there and since its freeroll I believe he is not folding. On river there is no reason for you to fold. What you expect him to have? 5? Overpair? Not likely at all.

     
  25-Nov-12, 12:57   #3
  0 
Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 1052
I was thinking just at overpair... btw... i hav9e 54k and blinds increase to 1500/3000 ante 400 Big Smile 339 players left ...

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Finish on 72... for $7.5 ... in BB with 2.5 blinds... call a raise with K5.. flop 467, turn K river 9... no 8 no 3 no 5 Sad that is ... is good that $7.5... 2 weeks ago finished on 42 for $15 ... next time when i remember to play i want FT Big Smile against few mobsters Thumbs Up

Edited by Doarulle (Sunday, November 25, 2012 @ 13:46 GMT)


     
  25-Nov-12, 14:45   #4
  0 
antybiotyk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Poland
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 12
It would be easier if you have any stats on your oponnents, but let's try.

Concerning 1st hand:
- check on pre-flop was ok, however in freerolls with only one oponnent calling, you can think about bet.
- on flop you made in my opinion too small bet. It was less then 50% of pot - just one BB. In freerolls most players won't respect such bets. Another thing is that on flop you got 2 cards with the same color. At this stage of tournament calling one BB is good value for oponnent if he has draw.
- value of your bet on turn is in my opinion disaster. Again only one BB when Total Pot: 135. It is ok for him to call with draw, small pairs etc.
- on river I think it is good that you fold. With your bets value, you not collected any info about his hand.
To sum up: too small bets. Already flop wasn't good, but in my opinion after your bet on turn it was really hard to do anything good with this hand.

Concerning 2nd hand:
- SB is 120 and BB 240. You have 9622, so why you call with such bad hand at all?
- on flop you got top pair, and in this case probably you are before other players, as I expect them to bet with 99+. However you again made very small bet that won't be respected, and your equity is around 56%. In this case you should bet at least 600-700.
- turn is very good for you. With 2 pairs, you should bet at least 50% of pot value and if he raise, reraise him. On such table not too many cards are better. Only 3 of kind or some higher pairs in his pocket, what is not to probable (see above). In reality the only hand that can beat you in this case is 88 and 5x, not to probable as he only called you on flop. Your equity is now around 83%, so you should be prepared go all in.
- On river he overbets, so you should call this hand. 5d makes it ever more probable that you are a winner on this spot (eq ~90%). If he was sure that he is winner, so having sth like 5x, TT etc. he would prefer to see you calling his bet, so he should bet less. In my opinion he was just bluffing.

     
  25-Nov-12, 14:52   #5
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1477
yeah, agree. a lot of time split. Many time I played like your analyse ,bad happen! he really hit 4 of kind!!. Do you think that's good tactic Jovi ? Risk all of our chips,right ? without history he buffer or not, better I fold. Anyway, start play with bad hand ( 10 8 os ) broke my stack many time Big Smile Big Smile
How you think ?

     
  25-Nov-12, 18:08   #6
  0 
antybiotyk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Poland
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 12
Serpang, of course it is better if you have history of oponnent and you can predict if he bluff in this case or not. On the other hand this was freeroll, so it depends if you are already in prize pool or not and generally depends on the stage of tournament.

If you are not in prize pool, but you are very close to it, in my opinion the best is to play very agressive and tight especially against pleayers that have nearly the same stack, as they want to save chips. In case of short stackers you can play agressive and loose as they need to fight for their life in game, so they need to play with lot of bad hands.

If already all players are in prizepool you need to value your chips. For example:
If you loose in this spot all your chips you will end with $0,5 for this place, but if you win this spot, you will be able even when folding all hands from now on win $1. However, if you decide to fold now, probably you will win $0,6-$0,7. Do you want to take a risk $0,1-$0,2 to be able to win extra $0,5 and be much higher and get a chance to be in final table or do you prefer to wait for better hand? I personally prefer to take my 80% chance rather then spend next hour waiting and hoping that I get 3 of kind or sth better and if not accumulate just extra $0,2.
Of course for many reasons you might prefer to wait. Smile

     
  25-Nov-12, 19:32   #7
  0 
GoTrixo 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: Germany
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 163
so mobsters whos playing right now the evenings 5000$ FTP freeroll? gl ALL

     
  25-Nov-12, 20:17   #8
  0 
Doarulle 
Joined: Sep '12
Location: Romania
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 1052
Posted by GoTrixo:
so mobsters whos playing right now the evenings 5000$ FTP freeroll? gl ALL

I play it ... i've played* ...
AWFUL PLAY

Full Tilt Poker Game #31515222060: $5,000 First Deposit Freeroll (244388330), Table 586 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:07:54 EET - 2012/11/25 [15:07:54 ET - 2012/11/25]
Seat 1: Frostyzz (1,780), is sitting out
Seat 2: Nindze23 (1,520), is sitting out
Seat 3: Gllkkaa (4,165)
Seat 4: intense mind (1,875)
Seat 5: el_louco80 (4,565)
Seat 6: shumasso31 (1,725), is sitting out
Seat 7: SuntSenzatie (4,375)
Seat 8: buk73 (1,235)
Seat 9: aa_kirillov (6,225)
shumasso31 posts the small blind of 40
SuntSenzatie posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuntSenzatie [Ah Qs]
buk73 folds
aa_kirillov folds
Frostyzz folds
Nindze23 folds
Gllkkaa raises to 160
intense mind folds
el_louco80 folds
shumasso31 folds
SuntSenzatie calls 80
*** FLOP *** [5d 2s Ac] (Total Pot: 360, 2 Players)
SuntSenzatie checks
Gllkkaa bets 160
SuntSenzatie raises to 840
Gllkkaa calls 680
*** TURN *** [5d 2s Ac] 10 of hearts (Total Pot: 2,040, 2 Players)
SuntSenzatie bets 1,560
Gllkkaa calls 1,560
*** RIVER *** [5d 2s Ac Th] 2 of hearts (Total Pot: 5,160, 2 Players)
SuntSenzatie bets 1,815, and is all in
Gllkkaa calls 1,605, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 210 returned to SuntSenzatie
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SuntSenzatie shows [Ah Qs] two pair, Aces and Twos
Gllkkaa shows [2c 2d] four of a kind, Twos
Gllkkaa wins the pot (8,370) with four of a kind, Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8,370 | Rake 0
Board: [5d 2s Ac Th 2h]
Seat 1: Frostyzz didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Nindze23 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Gllkkaa showed [2c 2d] and won (8,370) with four of a kind, Twos
Seat 4: intense mind didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: el_louco80 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: shumasso31 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: SuntSenzatie (big blind) showed [Ah Qs] and lost with two pair, Aces and Twos
Seat 8: buk73 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: aa_kirillov didn't bet (folded)

I'm too stup!d for this game...
i need sleep..... i'm too tired... anyone else play?

     
  25-Nov-12, 20:44   #9
  0 
GoTrixo 

Joined: Dec '11
Location: Germany
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 163
Posted by Doarulle:
Posted by GoTrixo:
so mobsters whos playing right now the evenings 5000$ FTP freeroll? gl ALL

I play it ... i've played* ...
AWFUL PLAY

Full Tilt Poker Game #31515222060: $5,000 First Deposit Freeroll (244388330), Table 586 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:07:54 EET - 2012/11/25 [15:07:54 ET - 2012/11/25]
Seat 1: Frostyzz (1,780), is sitting out
Seat 2: Nindze23 (1,520), is sitting out
Seat 3: Gllkkaa (4,165)
Seat 4: intense mind (1,875)
Seat 5: el_louco80 (4,565)
Seat 6: shumasso31 (1,725), is sitting out
Seat 7: SuntSenzatie (4,375)
Seat 8: buk73 (1,235)
Seat 9: aa_kirillov (6,225)
shumasso31 posts the small blind of 40
SuntSenzatie posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuntSenzatie [Ah Qs]
buk73 folds
aa_kirillov folds
Frostyzz folds
Nindze23 folds
Gllkkaa raises to 160
intense mind folds
el_louco80 folds
shumasso31 folds
SuntSenzatie calls 80
*** FLOP *** [5d 2s Ac] (Total Pot: 360, 2 Players)
SuntSenzatie checks
Gllkkaa bets 160
SuntSenzatie raises to 840
Gllkkaa calls 680
*** TURN *** [5d 2s Ac] 10 of hearts (Total Pot: 2,040, 2 Players)
SuntSenzatie bets 1,560
Gllkkaa calls 1,560
*** RIVER *** [5d 2s Ac Th] 2 of hearts (Total Pot: 5,160, 2 Players)
SuntSenzatie bets 1,815, and is all in
Gllkkaa calls 1,605, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 210 returned to SuntSenzatie
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SuntSenzatie shows [Ah Qs] two pair, Aces and Twos
Gllkkaa shows [2c 2d] four of a kind, Twos
Gllkkaa wins the pot (8,370) with four of a kind, Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8,370 | Rake 0
Board: [5d 2s Ac Th 2h]
Seat 1: Frostyzz didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Nindze23 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Gllkkaa showed [2c 2d] and won (8,370) with four of a kind, Twos
Seat 4: intense mind didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: el_louco80 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: shumasso31 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: SuntSenzatie (big blind) showed [Ah Qs] and lost with two pair, Aces and Twos
Seat 8: buk73 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: aa_kirillov didn't bet (folded)

I'm too stup!d for this game...
i need sleep..... i'm too tired... anyone else play?


im quite under the avg stack having just a few BBs waiting to push.. and perhaps i stay a little longer.. still i think like 1800 ppl remaining

double up with Pocket Sevens, had only 4 BBs so easy Shove, guy was thinkin then he called with J6 ?? i was only hoping please no Jack no Jack.. well luckily my Sevens hold , i've even hit 7 on the turn, but he had some outs with open ended straight draw, river was blank so im still alive Big Smile

okey few mins later : got dealt QJoffsuit having about 6 BBs, cause the blinds start to eat your short stack alive.. Big Smile so decided to shove and risc(there was no action infront of me) was sitting in mid position, with still having not the worst hand in case someone with big stack will call with Ace and weak kicker, well one guy called with A9suited, flop was K76 i think rainbow, turn 7, river K so busto Big Smile but atleast 0.50$ better then nothing right, and it went quite quickly into paid places. so Im still afterall happy with this tourney, was challenging because i was not getting any good cards for a long while, so had to bluff my way sometimes to get some chips.

Edited by GoTrixo (Sunday, November 25, 2012 @ 21:10 GMT)


     
  25-Nov-12, 21:41   #10
  0 
damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 4873
Overall you have to consider what you know about your opponents as well as having the ability to balance between being a calling station and having the discipline to call or bet when you have good hands and to throw away your not so good hands.

     
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