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i am now convinced that all poker sites are "in it" together now. after 3 years playing poker on 4 sites and over 5000£ down, nothing now will convince me that all sites are corrupt and all use softwear that "picks" on certain players, and 888 is by far the worse. i have never won a tournement on that site, i have got to the final pair on 5 times and on all i have been fished out of the pot. the last being last night. i had pocket aces and he had jq of spades, on the flop came ace and jack of spades then the river gave me a full house aces over queens and i lost to royal flush, this would never happen at a real casino. another time i had four 7s and lost to four jacks, again it would never happen at casino, and the number of times i have held pocket aces and lost to a fish is no ones business. now these things dont happen once in a while, but all the time, i get 3 of a kind, i lose to a flush i get 3x10s, i lose to 3 x jacks, now this is just not right. come on now, all the time, god i have more chance of winning the lotto than winning on line poker, i have vented myself to these sites, and even had my father look into my history, and he being a maths prof at a school, even he imforms me that these things wouldnt happen by chance all the time. so yes people on line poker is rigged in favour of certain people and the bots, and i for one will not be playing online no more
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Posted by nodathon: i am now convinced that all poker sites are "in it" together now. after 3 years playing poker on 4 sites and over 5000� down, nothing now will convince me that all sites are corrupt and all use softwear that "picks" on certain players, and 888 is by far the worse. i have never won a tournement on that site, i have got to the final pair on 5 times and on all i have been fished out of the pot. the last being last night. i had pocket aces and he had jq of spades, on the flop came ace and jack of spades then the river gave me a full house aces over queens and i lost to royal flush, this would never happen at a real casino. another time i had four 7s and lost to four jacks, again it would never happen at casino, and the number of times i have held pocket aces and lost to a fish is no ones business. now these things dont happen once in a while, but all the time, i get 3 of a kind, i lose to a flush i get 3x10s, i lose to 3 x jacks, now this is just not right. come on now, all the time, god i have more chance of winning the lotto than winning on line poker, i have vented myself to these sites, and even had my father look into my history, and he being a maths prof at a school, even he imforms me that these things wouldnt happen by chance all the time. so yes people on line poker is rigged in favour of certain people and the bots, and i for one will not be playing online no more
i personally dont like Online poker either.. i happen to experience many suckouts too but i dont know if its rigged or not, i aswell happen to see many suckouts and bad beats others ppl experiencing.. and i completely hate the MTTs variance..
edit : yea could add those many hands where i have AK suited and constantly losing to weak Aces and stuff, ppl hitting their magic cards, or hitting runners..on a regular basis... Your not alone who is getting constantly these suckouts, but what can we do.. Guess it has to be that good personalities shouldn't win or i dunno.. i got used to lose hands like that pretty often... Im still trying to fight it though, today already like 20 suckouts, and when i do some b******t move like that and call with a mediocre or weak hand most of the times i hit big nothing, and favor wins as it should be.. I wish the cards will be on my side for once too.. we can only hope i think
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Take a break from it After the break change the site you usually play (this helps most of the times) and try to change the way you play cards, since it seem it doesnt work Try a small site, maybe you get lucky there.gl
Posted by nodathon: i am now convinced that all poker sites are "in it" together now. after 3 years playing poker on 4 sites and over 5000� down, nothing now will convince me that all sites are corrupt and all use softwear that "picks" on certain players, and 888 is by far the worse. i have never won a tournement on that site, i have got to the final pair on 5 times and on all i have been fished out of the pot. the last being last night. i had pocket aces and he had jq of spades, on the flop came ace and jack of spades then the river gave me a full house aces over queens and i lost to royal flush, this would never happen at a real casino. another time i had four 7s and lost to four jacks, again it would never happen at casino, and the number of times i have held pocket aces and lost to a fish is no ones business. now these things dont happen once in a while, but all the time, i get 3 of a kind, i lose to a flush i get 3x10s, i lose to 3 x jacks, now this is just not right. come on now, all the time, god i have more chance of winning the lotto than winning on line poker, i have vented myself to these sites, and even had my father look into my history, and he being a maths prof at a school, even he imforms me that these things wouldnt happen by chance all the time. so yes people on line poker is rigged in favour of certain people and the bots, and i for one will not be playing online no more
It's more "action packed" online than live. But still it seems even more and thats cause you play much more hands online that live so it seems even greather than that. Its same for all tho and you have to be rly good to win. Your father tells you these things wouldnt happen by chance all the time? You get royal over full house all the time? cut the b******t.
You picked one amazing hand and you say "this is the reason i lose online". Well sorry but it isnt cause i cant remember when was last time i saw royal flush.
Even if you are good player that understands theory of poker that is just a start for you to become winning player. It take a lot more than basic ABC poker to win regulary and become rly good. It's not law school where you take a book remember what book says and you are good to go. You need theory, ton of experience, some talent and some luck at right time to achieve all of that. I'm yet to see a micro player that folds aces on turn and other guy is all in. It never happens and they all think they had bad luck and they are winning players. Seems to me that you are the same. You dont seek answers on why you lose in your game. You think your game is winning already so you seek answer in rigged software or whatever. IF that is true then ask your father for ticket to Vegas so you can play live and be rich and famous in no time. I think you would be back the first day.
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ell mr know it, dont you dare come on here calling b......t at my blog here, you know nothing of me, and i do have all the screen shots id iot...so please go troll someone elses blog. and id iot evens allowing for sods law, and the averages, itys impossible to lose all the time, even bad players and fish get lucky on sites, for someone to never win after over 3000 games is not right, like i said even idiot pros like you would have to admit that, but you wont because in your head its impossible to happen and if i say so im lying and its b******t, well mr pro get over your self and in future troll someone else
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I don't think electronic poker is rigged it just has a lot of hands being dealt and this elevates the oppotunity for donk hands to hit against any hand played. I know it get's old dealing with bad beats, but it's never going to change. The only thing that can change is the players. If you feel a bad beat coming take your loses and get out of the hand. I know they're unpredictable, but at times you get that feeling and it's the same feeling one gets when they sense to play a suited Q,7 and hit. Listen to Mober!
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anyway while thinking about it, maybe hes got a serious point, my pocket Kings or another high pairs lose minimal 50% times vs Ace X, or Q10,J10 etc. i mean seriously? when i go for flip with some weak Ace like AJ suited/offsuit , just right now had one, while already had quite some nerves, because its really ridiculous the way online poker works, anyway so i had AJ offsuit, after i lost 80% of my stack with pocket Kings vs AQ u heard it right, this guy is stupid Russian donk, so he doesnt care to risc all his money in midlle phase of the tournament, ofcourse he hits that Ace, few hands after i shove with AJ with few BBs couldnt care less really.. guy calls with 8K suited, ofcourse he hits that Eight on flop and thats pretty much it, the next hand im dealt pocket Fours, so i shove the rest, guy calls with Ace + smth dunno some mediocre Ace, ofcourse he hits that Ace right on the flop, WP FTP now go fu** urself. not to mention some days ago when i got almost to final table in 100K depositors on PS, i had lost a hand 1.8m AK suited vs AT ofcourse he hit that ten i believe it was even on river or turn, typical magic PokerStars bros! so was 21th of 22000, and yee while PokerStars could afford much higher prizepool as they earn so much money, But why should they? they couldn't care less. As they control FTP now too they can go on with their JokerStars magic rivers and running cards to show full strength on FTP aswell right, Anyway im gonna quit online poker sooner or later again, im sick of these suckouts, i have so many of them doesnt matter when i ship it with set on the flop, ppl still catch their Flush draws, cause they like to call Overbets, while having like 1/3 chance to hit their god damn flush, whats even worse they hiting often their gutshot draws like its no problem, Fu** yeah i love it too, im quite decent LIVE poker player, but Online poker seems is just not really my thing.. i don't know, atleast these freerolls and micro stakes are so damn annoying, and you play for hours just to earn few cents, or when u get EXTREMELY lucky and i mean it literally, because there is no way you can do final table without getting quite damn lucky few times atleast. Thanks to the variances. And ofcourse you have to avoid calling station donks Russians and stuff, they just cant let off their Any Two strategy, its awesome, just like the thread i posted some weeks ago where i lost 42$ pot, this happens to me on regular basis and im tired of it. so Unless i get finally LUCKY too so i can earn some $ and be HAPPY with myself for once, to ENJOY this life in this broken world for once.. But i guess that aint gonna happen, as usual. so Sorry everyone for this long wall of whine, or text, depends how you wanna call it. Peace & fml
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Posted by nodathon: i am now convinced that all poker sites are "in it" together now. after 3 years playing poker on 4 sites and over 5000� down, nothing now will convince me that all sites are corrupt and all use softwear that "picks" on certain players,
Yup, and they just "decided" to pick on you, out of the THOUSANDS of other online players. Lifes not fair.
Posted by nodathon: and 888 is by far the worse. i have never won a tournement on that site,
Wow, from what I remember, they had some of the softest tables. If you can't win while playing the WORST players, then you just suck.
Posted by nodathon: i have got to the final pair on 5 times and on all i have been fished out of the pot. the last being last night. i had pocket aces and he had jq of spades, on the flop came ace and jack of spades then the river gave me a full house aces over queens and i lost to royal flush, this would never happen at a real casino.
Yes it would. And it has, many many times. Here's ONE time it happened.
Posted by nodathon: another time i had four 7s and lost to four jacks, again it would never happen at casino
Yes it would.
Posted by nodathon: and the number of times i have held pocket aces and lost to a fish is no ones business.
But you made it our business the second you hit the post button. I find it ironic that you post something like this, and have the gills to call other people fish. Yes that should be gall, not gills, but I went for humor there.
Posted by nodathon: now these things dont happen once in a while, but all the time, i get 3 of a kind, i lose to a flush i get 3x10s, i lose to 3 x jacks, now this is just not right.
what, you're saying they should change the hand rankings, so you always win? I'm sorry, last I checked a high set always beats a lower set, and a flush beats trips. That's just the way poker works.
Posted by nodathon: come on now, all the time, god i have more chance of winning the lotto than winning on line poker,
I'd have to agree, you can't spell, or use proper grammar, and your poker skills are obviously lacking.
Posted by nodathon: i have vented myself to these sites, and even had my father look into my history, and he being a maths prof at a school, even he imforms me that these things wouldnt happen by chance all the time.
It's funny how a rigtard ALWAYS knows someone who's a math professor, yet that person doesn't seem to grasp the simple concept of probability and the need for a large sample size for it to be relevant. Either our world is full of poorly educated and under-qualified professors, or this claim is just bogus.
Posted by nodathon: so yes people on line poker is rigged in favour of certain people and the bots, and i for one will not be playing online no more
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Two possibilities really. Either four different sites are rigged against you personally or you're not nearly as good a poker player as you'd like to think you are.
Whichever it is the best thing you could possibly do is quit before you lose any more cash.
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I have won more then a few times playing online,and won a bit,even on 888 I won more then a few times,I too once thought online poker was rigged,but stopped complaining when,I realized that it wasn't the poker sites it was my play,it was how I played,and the facted that I played everday,and played so much just burnted me out,and I thought online poker was rigged,but we just play so many games see so many hands,that some times it doesn't seem like,its real. I have also realized a lot of players can't,or don't understand the game,they just play,what they think is poker,this is what is killing the game,you get people who shouldn't be involved in hands,or play hands people like us,wouldn't play and they beats us,it happens a lot,you would think that sites love these kind of players,and they probably do,cause of all the money they spend trying to win once. Take a break for a couple weeks,then start playing again if you like,or just stay out of way,and fade a way,and leave us alone, that like,playing online,and or good at it.
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Posted by xxxpokerxxx1: I have won more then a few times playing online,and won a bit,even on 888 I won more then a few times,I too once thought online poker was rigged,but stopped complaining when,I realized that it wasn't the poker sites it was my play,it was how I played,and the facted that I played everday,and played so much just burnted me out,and I thought online poker was rigged,but we just play so many games see so many hands,that some times it doesn't seem like,its real. I have also realized a lot of players can't,or don't understand the game,they just play,what they think is poker,this is what is killing the game,you get people who shouldn't be involved in hands,or play hands people like us,wouldn't play and they beats us,it happens a lot,you would think that sites love these kind of players,and they probably do,cause of all the money they spend trying to win once. Take a break for a couple weeks,then start playing again if you like,or just stay out of way,and fade a way,and leave us alone, that like,playing online,and or good at it.
Those are the words of someone who, if not yet, will eventually be a winning player. The words of the OP are those of someone who, because of a lack of ability to take personal responsibility for bad results, will ALWAYS be a losing player.
If what you say is true then the game most definitely is rigged and you should report this immediately to the poker authorities.
i had pocket aces and he had jq of spades, on the flop came ace and jack of spades then the river gave me a full house aces over queens and i lost to royal flush
How the hell did you manage to get TWO jack of spades in one deck of cards..
RIGGED !!!!!
------------ Hang on, this is impossible.
If you have AA and the flop came A J and a Qeen then the nexct two cards would have to be the 10 and King of spades. With there being two queens on the board its impossible for him to hit a royal flush if the flop included a Jack as well.
You are definitely right. It had to be rigged because he couldn't possibly hit a royal flush with the board showing A J Q Q and him holding QJ
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Posted by nodathon: ell mr know it, dont you dare come on here calling b......t at my blog here, you know nothing of me, and i do have all the screen shots id iot...so please go troll someone elses blog. and id iot evens allowing for sods law, and the averages, itys impossible to lose all the time, even bad players and fish get lucky on sites, for someone to never win after over 3000 games is not right, like i said even idiot pros like you would have to admit that, but you wont because in your head its impossible to happen and if i say so im lying and its b******t, well mr pro get over your self and in future troll someone else
Excuse me, but when your post says two Jacks of spades are in the deck and he hits an impossible royal flush, then something does smell of the brown stuff that comes out of a cows arse.
I'd suggest you actually re-read your original post, because hte way you describe losing with AA to QJ is a physical impossibility and thus makes your post b******t...
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Posted by nodathon: i had pocket aces and he had jq of spades, on the flop came ace and jack of spades then the river gave me a full house aces over queens and i lost to royal flush, this would never happen at a real casino.
Well I suppose you got one thing right, it wouldn't happen in a live casino.. come to that it wouldn't happen in any poker game, because no poker game on this planet would be playing with 2 jacks of spades, and 6 cards on the board.
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loool great reply from fcumred i'd say guy picked the wrong place to take his frustration off: after reading the replies he will probably be even more frustrated if you are loosing money it doesn't automatically mean that poker is rigged & there s a 100% sure way to still take part in poker and stop bleeding cash- just start from $0: take ndb or go with freerolls- build up your roll and if you end up blowing it- you will still lose $0 from your own pocket
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Posted by GoTrixo:
Posted by nodathon: i am now convinced that all poker sites are "in it" together now. after 3 years playing poker on 4 sites and over 5000� down, nothing now will convince me that all sites are corrupt and all use softwear that "picks" on certain players, and 888 is by far the worse. i have never won a tournement on that site, i have got to the final pair on 5 times and on all i have been fished out of the pot. the last being last night. i had pocket aces and he had jq of spades, on the flop came ace and jack of spades then the river gave me a full house aces over queens and i lost to royal flush, this would never happen at a real casino. another time i had four 7s and lost to four jacks, again it would never happen at casino, and the number of times i have held pocket aces and lost to a fish is no ones business. now these things dont happen once in a while, but all the time, i get 3 of a kind, i lose to a flush i get 3x10s, i lose to 3 x jacks, now this is just not right. come on now, all the time, god i have more chance of winning the lotto than winning on line poker, i have vented myself to these sites, and even had my father look into my history, and he being a maths prof at a school, even he imforms me that these things wouldnt happen by chance all the time. so yes people on line poker is rigged in favour of certain people and the bots, and i for one will not be playing online no more
i personally dont like Online poker either.. i happen to experience many suckouts too but i dont know if its rigged or not, i aswell happen to see many suckouts and bad beats others ppl experiencing.. and i completely hate the MTTs variance..
edit : yea could add those many hands where i have AK suited and constantly losing to weak Aces and stuff, ppl hitting their magic cards, or hitting runners..on a regular basis... Your not alone who is getting constantly these suckouts, but what can we do.. Guess it has to be that good personalities shouldn't win or i dunno.. i got used to lose hands like that pretty often... Im still trying to fight it though, today already like 20 suckouts, and when i do some b******t move like that and call with a mediocre or weak hand most of the times i hit big nothing, and favor wins as it should be.. I wish the cards will be on my side for once too.. we can only hope i think
I really don't like too... last night i've played a home games with my friends... for fun.. buy in of $5... we're played 9 players tournament (sng ...) i woned the 1st place and take $30 and the 2nd place take $15... btw... i don't see any badbeat last night... my aces resist two times... when i get 99 and call all in of my buddy he showes me AA, i lose it... so aces resist in live... BTF try to play live... you need to stop playing online if you lose
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Posted by nodathon: i am now convinced that all poker sites are "in it" together now. after 3 years playing poker on 4 sites and over 5000� down, nothing now will convince me that all sites are corrupt and all use softwear that "picks" on certain players, and 888 is by far the worse. i have never won a tournement on that site, i have got to the final pair on 5 times and on all i have been fished out of the pot. the last being last night. i had pocket aces and he had jq of spades, on the flop came ace and jack of spades then the river gave me a full house aces over queens and i lost to royal flush, this would never happen at a real casino. another time i had four 7s and lost to four jacks, again it would never happen at casino, and the number of times i have held pocket aces and lost to a fish is no ones business. now these things dont happen once in a while, but all the time, i get 3 of a kind, i lose to a flush i get 3x10s, i lose to 3 x jacks, now this is just not right. come on now, all the time, god i have more chance of winning the lotto than winning on line poker, i have vented myself to these sites, and even had my father look into my history, and he being a maths prof at a school, even he imforms me that these things wouldnt happen by chance all the time. so yes people on line poker is rigged in favour of certain people and the bots, and i for one will not be playing online no more
For $20/hr I'll teach you how to win in this "corrupt" business <3
Posted by nodathon: i have got to the final pair on 5 times and on all i have been fished out of the pot. the last being last night. i had pocket aces and he had jq of spades, on the flop came ace and jack of spades then the river gave me a full house aces over queens and i lost to royal flush, this would never happen at a real casino.
Yes it would. And it has, many many times. Here's ONE time it happened.
Sorry retribution, but I cannot resist this..
You are wrong.. It could not happen in a live casino, and the scenario you give is wholly different because in the WSOP as far as I am aware, they only every play with one deck of cards not two, as the OP suggests.
I would have expected a player of your experience to spot his glaring mistake.. Well not the one, both of them.
i'd say guy picked the wrong place to take his frustration off: after reading the replies he will probably be even more frustrated 
