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  2-Dec-12, 20:08   #1
Buy-ins; how do they affect play 0 
Shooshly 
Joined: May '12
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So, after playing at different buyins, I'm wondering how does turney play change with different buyins? You can find loads of articles about cash games, but I'm specificly wondering about turneys, what are your views about it?

My ex so far is basically, that the higher you go, the thighter the players, more preflop raises and more folding to c-bets on the river.

Granted that the highest I went was 5 bucks so yeah Tongue

     
  2-Dec-12, 20:13   #2
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bullettooth1 

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i dunno but im in a $216 buy in at mo and there's quite a bit of folding preflop. you also have to be constructive in ways of getting paid.

im doing chit at the mo lol

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makes you mad when you need some chips and everyone folds your min raise when you have aces. lol Disagree Angry

Edited by bullettooth1 (Sunday, December 02, 2012 @ 20:23 GMT)


     
  2-Dec-12, 20:37   #3
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Mober 
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You can see the same attitude of players folding way more hands even in freerolls
that have a big prize.
You are waiting for a good hand hoping to get some chips with an all in. and as bullet said
everyone is folding Smile

And speaking of freerolls just remembered i didnt play in the depositors one at Full Tilt

     
  2-Dec-12, 22:57   #4
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brianj 
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In my experience a game with cash in it is played alot tighter.To take that further i really don,t think it,s possible to play "good" poker without the fear of losing money,.problem is unless you can afford to have a reasonable big bank roll I don,t think this changes.ie. a 1$ game will always mean the player can only lose 1$ so the "fear" is just not there so investing a small amount of money is not any better than trying to win a bankroll through freerolls or no deposit bonusesetc Still doen,t mean you can,t win you just need more luck instead of skill

     
  2-Dec-12, 23:53   #5
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RoninHarper 

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Posted by Shooshly:
So, after playing at different buyins, I'm wondering how does turney play change with different buyins? You can find loads of articles about cash games, but I'm specificly wondering about turneys, what are your views about it?

My ex so far is basically, that the higher you go, the thighter the players, more preflop raises and more folding to c-bets on the river.

Granted that the highest I went was 5 bucks so yeah Tongue


my personal experience has been that the larger buy ins have better poker play in general because people want to get they money back and then make a nice profit for themselves.

There are still alot of donks however at every level of play. some people just have more money then brains.

Ronin Harper Cool

     
  3-Dec-12, 03:48   #6
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Serpang 
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of course at higher buy in they play tighter and longer . I ever play $109 buy in 3 times. I saw nice poker there than low buy in. Should be more spare time to think for me. Just have 60s not enough Sad

     
  3-Dec-12, 08:19   #7
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pochui 

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well probably no surprises here: the higher the limits- the better the players. it's an overall statement, sure you will find donks at any limits, but nothing compares to the donkatrons of freerolls Big Smile yet the buy-in itself is not the only thing that determines the play- you have to look at the tourney structure: if it's a hyper turbo- then you will still be in "push or fold" action most of the time...

     
  3-Dec-12, 10:37   #8
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damosk 
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Yep...definatekly the higher the buy in, the bigger the win but the bigger the loss, so early on everyone is really tight, so there is an opprotuintuy to make some money out of this cos people will be folding with higher hands, but you also run the risk of everyone folding so you only het the blinds, but when everyone is really tight, thats not a bad thinG!

     
  4-Dec-12, 22:37   #9
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Shooshly 
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Posted by RoninHarper:
Posted by Shooshly:
So, after playing at different buyins, I'm wondering how does turney play change with different buyins? You can find loads of articles about cash games, but I'm specificly wondering about turneys, what are your views about it?

My ex so far is basically, that the higher you go, the thighter the players, more preflop raises and more folding to c-bets on the river.

Granted that the highest I went was 5 bucks so yeah Tongue


my personal experience has been that the larger buy ins have better poker play in general because people want to get they money back and then make a nice profit for themselves.

There are still alot of donks however at every level of play. some people just have more money then brains.

Ronin Harper Cool



Hey. Being the son of the second most powerful person in my country I beg to disagree. Since big brains don't neceserally bring you money Smile his pay is 3,500 euros net. neither do they bring you poker skills, though he is a former runner up at the countries chess championship Tongue plus he used to play in a punk band Blink

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Posted by pochui:
well probably no surprises here: the higher the limits- the better the players. it's an overall statement, sure you will find donks at any limits, but nothing compares to the donkatrons of freerolls Big Smile yet the buy-in itself is not the only thing that determines the play- you have to look at the tourney structure: if it's a hyper turbo- then you will still be in "push or fold" action most of the time...



Sorry, I don't know how to split quotes but yeah. It's part of my question, but I want to get a pool going with it, but I need 20 forum posts with it. Seems I'm lucky on the safe and the calendar having 3400 mob points Smile

     
  5-Dec-12, 05:10   #10
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TheMachineQC 

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In general, players who play higher buy-ins are more experienced or more wealthy, wich makes them more dangerous. But some are just degenerate gamblers that will do anything to get a dose of adrenaline Blink

In my opinion though, if the buy-in amount affects your game, then you shouldn't play for that much! You have to be confortable at the level you're playing, or atleast know that you're not gonna have regrets afterwards. If you can't make crying/tough calls when you normally would, more experienced players will probably pick up on that and play more agressivly against you. Wich is not a good thing, unless you start hitting a lot...

Edited by TheMachineQC (Wednesday, December 05, 2012 @ 05:14 GMT)


     
  5-Dec-12, 10:24   #11
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thefly131 
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Belgium
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Generally you can divide several types of poker players :

poker players following a good bankrollmanagement , playing at the right levels vs bankroll

poker players that have a high bankroll but no or not enough poker-experience : they can afford to gamble , compare to freerollplayers

players that are playing at to high levels --> also gamblers

But remember , the gamblers can get lucky, so sometimes they win



     
  5-Dec-12, 14:17   #12
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Fakiry 

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My experience reveals similar to yours, the higher the buy-in value, the tighter the players. But the buy-in low or high is variable. And not only for the buy-in. Once I saw a friend playing a tourney with a ticket he won for generating more than €2k in one month, and people were really tight. Concentration was at the max there, I even got nervous just for watching! $5 buy-in is crap, everyone plays that. One can’t think about our possibilities, one have to think in global terms, and there are places on this planet were parents give $1k and more of monthly allowance to their kids, while in other places other families don’t get to earn $1k of monthly budget, although both have internet at home and both having the use to play online poker. These two parents give a different value to the money, and we need to remember this when choosing a tourney, that’s why so many keep calling donks to players who lose $20 in a buy-in tourney in the first or second hand like if they were playing a freeroll

     
  6-Dec-12, 17:30   #13
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thefly131 
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Location: Belgium
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The ratio of the buy-in of a torney vs your savings/income (or bankroll) is an importnat factor for the type of playing.

What I mean is what s a buy-in of 100$ if you earn more than 3000$ a month.

With a good bankrollmanagement the buy-in shopuld be less than 2% of your bankroll.

So if you play a 100$ it means you should have 10000$ !!!!

     
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