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Just another tourney at pokerstars, heres some of my luck in hands
*********** # 40 ************** PokerStars Home Game Hand #91161872950: {The Rigged Place} Tournament #647605459, $0.10+$0.01 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (350/700) - 2012/12/22 18:44:34 AT [2012/12/22 17:44:34 ET] Table '647605459 5' 9-max Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: ENPLAYER99 (24675 in chips) Seat 2: wickedcid (19869 in chips) Seat 3: PeteRePeter (15145 in chips) Seat 4: grucas (73936 in chips) Seat 5: lukasema2 (5744 in chips) Seat 7: cardraiser72 (13597 in chips) Seat 8: ipeksevil (26989 in chips) ENPLAYER99: posts the ante 85 wickedcid: posts the ante 85 PeteRePeter: posts the ante 85 grucas: posts the ante 85 lukasema2: posts the ante 85 cardraiser72: posts the ante 85 ipeksevil: posts the ante 85 ENPLAYER99: posts small blind 350 wickedcid: posts big blind 700 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to wickedcid [As Qs] cardraiser72 said, "you stole yor hole stack ,lol" cardraiser72 said, "and never called" PeteRePeter: raises 1400 to 2100 grucas: folds lukasema2: folds cardraiser72: folds ipeksevil: folds ENPLAYER99: folds cardraiser72 said, "master of steal" wickedcid said, "watever i need to go in with this one hes aggresive" wickedcid: raises 17684 to 19784 and is all-in PeteRePeter: calls 12960 and is all-in Uncalled bet (4724) returned to wickedcid *** FLOP *** [2s 2d 8d] grucas said, "I've noticed but I always have 7,5 when he raises." *** TURN *** [2s 2d 8d] *** RIVER *** [2s 2d 8d 8c] *** SHOW DOWN *** wickedcid: shows [As Qs] (two pair, Eights and Deuces) PeteRePeter: shows [Ah Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Eights) PeteRePeter collected 31065 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 31065 | Rake 0 Board [2s 2d 8d 8c Jh] Seat 1: ENPLAYER99 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: wickedcid (big blind) showed [As Qs] and lost with two pair, Eights and Deuces Seat 3: PeteRePeter showed [Ah Jd] and won (31065) with two pair, Jacks and Eights Seat 4: grucas folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: lukasema2 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: cardraiser72 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: ipeksevil (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
*********** # 1 ************** PokerStars Home Game Hand #91162929448: {The Rigged Place} Tournament #647605459, $0.10+$0.01 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (500/1000) - 2012/12/22 19:08:14 AT [2012/12/22 18:08:14 ET] Table '647605459 5' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: ENPLAYER99 (19832 in chips) Seat 2: wickedcid (20701 in chips) Seat 3: PeteRePeter (70524 in chips) Seat 4: grucas (66911 in chips) Seat 8: ipeksevil (12353 in chips) ENPLAYER99: posts the ante 125 wickedcid: posts the ante 125 PeteRePeter: posts the ante 125 grucas: posts the ante 125 ipeksevil: posts the ante 125 wickedcid: posts small blind 500 PeteRePeter: posts big blind 1000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to wickedcid [5s As] grucas: folds ipeksevil: folds ENPLAYER99: folds wickedcid: raises 19576 to 20576 and is all-in PeteRePeter: calls 19576 *** FLOP *** [Ad 6s 2s] *** TURN *** [Ad 6s 2s] *** RIVER *** [Ad 6s 2s Jc] *** SHOW DOWN *** wickedcid: shows [5s As] (a pair of Aces) PeteRePeter: shows [3d 3s] (three of a kind, Threes) PeteRePeter collected 41777 from pot ENPLAYER99 said, "lol" *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 41777 | Rake 0 Board [Ad 6s 2s Jc 3c] Seat 1: ENPLAYER99 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: wickedcid (small blind) showed [5s As] and lost with a pair of Aces Seat 3: PeteRePeter (big blind) showed [3d 3s] and won (41777) with three of a kind, Threes Seat 4: grucas folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: ipeksevil folded before Flop (didn't bet)
vs % on turn for AJ to win was 6.82% vs % on turn for 33 to win was 4.55% % for both occasions to happen was .31031% Not worst that has happened to me but just an example of happens to me at pokerstars!
Edited by Jack_Daniels (22 December 2012 @ 23:57 GMT)
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I give up on jokerstars lol the question is will i redeposit once i get to high stakes level? lol also check out the %s i edited at the bottom of thread post.
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No worse there then anywhere else as far as I'm concerned when it comes to the donks always hitting on the river. It happens at Carbon all the time and I can't believe the hands that some of these jokers even play with. I guess I'm just not stupid enough to play that way to reap the benefits that they seem to always get. Just got donked and needed a thread to comment on! Thanks!
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lol, well indeed i agree its not only on this site, pokerstars is by far the best site out of them all but i find while im playing on pokerstars its worse than any other site. One poker site is not more rigged than another one but it sure looks like sites vary for different people
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Posted by Jack_Daniels:
vs % on turn for AJ to win was 6.82% vs % on turn for 33 to win was 4.55% % for both occasions to happen was .31031%
This is basically manipulating statistics to suit your agenda. You need to take the statistics from when the chips went IN not from the point where you had the highest chance of winning.. Since both hands were allin preflop, consider the second hand for example - you were more likely to LOSE than WIN yet you paint it out like you were a massive favorite.
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Posted by Jack_Daniels: the question is will i redeposit once i get to high stakes level?
that was worse at the river....i think it happens in many sites.....in ongame it happens all the time too.the lucky river story is everywhere.....but hey you can still win most of this situations because your ahead until the river comes.....
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Posted by ayaraled: that was worse at the river....i think it happens in many sites.....in ongame it happens all the time too.the lucky river story is everywhere.....but hey you can still win most of this situations because your ahead until the river comes.....
Yep and it happens live too.
I've said it before, "if you can't handle getting sucked out on the river then play a game that doesn't have community cards."
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by Jack_Daniels:
vs % on turn for AJ to win was 6.82% vs % on turn for 33 to win was 4.55% % for both occasions to happen was .31031%
This is basically manipulating statistics to suit your agenda. You need to take the statistics from when the chips went IN not from the point where you had the highest chance of winning.. Since both hands were allin preflop, consider the second hand for example - you were more likely to LOSE than WIN yet you paint it out like you were a massive favorite.
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Posted by Jack_Daniels: the question is will i redeposit once i get to high stakes level?
I really really really wouldn't worry about that.
Best ...reply...ever!!!
All honesty though, hand 1 is pretty standard. Villains raise basically committed him given pot size, so it's a snap call. You just got unlucky, but yes you WERE a favorite to win when chips got in.
Second hand I GUESS is kind of standard, although 20BB is kind of deep to be shoving, even BvB, especially with a weak ace. You're gunna be dominated by pretty much anything he calls with, and you don't really get much for the times he just folds to make it worth the risk. Or maybe it's just in me talking.
Still, I don't think either hand was terribly played, just terribly standard. I think villains call with 33 in hand 2 is just retarded, but you see it all the time.
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Ok, first hand was unlucky. He had only three real outs and some strange boards to beat you, but the second hand was just a flip. The chips went in preflop, and if he hits his set with the flop, the turn or the river does not mind here.
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reffering to second hand :
i'd rather make a steal on small blind vs BB with : let's say 10-J ofsuit then with A-low kicker
so up to A-4/A-5 i will fold ,,,if opponent has also an ace and you make a steal attempt ,most of the times you will lose ..and any aggression will get you into huge desicion problems...
bye bye tournament, bye bye chips.
HU is a total diff story ..i might play those A-low kickers more..
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Posted by retribution:
Still, I don't think either hand was terribly played, just terribly standard. I think villains call with 33 in hand 2 is just retarded, but you see it all the time.
Yeah that was a truly awful call. Tilts me so hard when fish call allins with small pocket pairs.
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I did manipulate the statistics lol trust me im used to losing on those hands but im just showing the statistics going into the river because its mostly the river that gets me and not on the flop. But just playing tourneys i built my bankroll on PS from $.21 to $30.93 so lets see what i can do now lol. (I just wanted to show river statistics, just feels a bit odd to me it always happens on the river, im always on edge on pokerstars even for one outers, like when you see people at the wsop main event all in and at risk lol theyre not satisfied usually until the river
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Posted by uhhcallmi: reffering to second hand :
i'd rather make a steal on small blind vs BB with : let's say 10-J ofsuit then with A-low kicker
so up to A-4/A-5 i will fold ,,,if opponent has also an ace and you make a steal attempt ,most of the times you will lose ..and any aggression will get you into huge desicion problems...
bye bye tournament, bye bye chips.
HU is a total diff story ..i might play those A-low kickers more..
Agreed cardraiser! almost a flip if its j10 versus a8. I dont care about losing a flip or 3-1 but im just saying how its always that nasty river. Woohooo not bad flop... blank turn... AND THE RIVER!!! awww... lol Riverstars
Edited by Jack_Daniels (23 December 2012 @ 13:44 GMT)
Posted by Jack_Daniels: pushed blinds on small blind, nothing wrong with the play, hes the one who made the wrong play, oh well its the only site im not successful on
Look how much was in pot. And you were weak. You played bad he played worse and got lucky. Push on turn if he calls a raise not on flop.
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Posted by xdomagojx:
Posted by Jack_Daniels: pushed blinds on small blind, nothing wrong with the play, hes the one who made the wrong play, oh well its the only site im not successful on
Look how much was in pot. And you were weak. You played bad he played worse and got lucky. Push on turn if he calls a raise not on flop.
What hands are you even looking at? Both hands chips went in pre, don't know how there can be any more action after that. Also, his shove with AQs against an EP raise with those stack sizes/pot size is pretty damn standard, especially considering you can clearly see in the chat that the raiser was super agro. I'd fist-pump shove that any day all day.
Posted by Jess: Yeah that was a truly awful call. Tilts me so hard when fish call allins with small pocket pairs.
Yup, me too. And the stupid thing is, they'll call even 22. Like, call me a nit, but I'd NEVER call a shove with 22, you're literally dominated by almost anything in the shovers range, even if they are almost shoving ATC. Still, fish are gunna be fish and they do get lucky. Just sucks getting picked off by morons calling with s**t like that left and right.
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% on turn for AJ to win was 6.82%
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% on turn for 33 to win was 4.55%
