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  22-Dec-12, 23:39   #1
Some Jokerstars luck 0 
Jack_Daniels 

Joined: Aug '12
Location: Canada
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 94
Just another tourney at pokerstars, heres some of my luck in hands

*********** # 40 **************
PokerStars Home Game Hand #91161872950: {The Rigged Place} Tournament #647605459, $0.10+$0.01 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (350/700) - 2012/12/22 18:44:34 AT [2012/12/22 17:44:34 ET]
Table '647605459 5' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: ENPLAYER99 (24675 in chips)
Seat 2: wickedcid (19869 in chips)
Seat 3: PeteRePeter (15145 in chips)
Seat 4: grucas (73936 in chips)
Seat 5: lukasema2 (5744 in chips)
Seat 7: cardraiser72 (13597 in chips)
Seat 8: ipeksevil (26989 in chips)
ENPLAYER99: posts the ante 85
wickedcid: posts the ante 85
PeteRePeter: posts the ante 85
grucas: posts the ante 85
lukasema2: posts the ante 85
cardraiser72: posts the ante 85
ipeksevil: posts the ante 85
ENPLAYER99: posts small blind 350
wickedcid: posts big blind 700
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wickedcid [As Qs]
cardraiser72 said, "you stole yor hole stack ,lol"
cardraiser72 said, "and never called"
PeteRePeter: raises 1400 to 2100
grucas: folds
lukasema2: folds
cardraiser72: folds
ipeksevil: folds
ENPLAYER99: folds
cardraiser72 said, "master of steal"
wickedcid said, "watever i need to go in with this one hes aggresive"
wickedcid: raises 17684 to 19784 and is all-in
PeteRePeter: calls 12960 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (4724) returned to wickedcid
*** FLOP *** [2s 2d 8d]
grucas said, "I've noticed but I always have 7,5 when he raises."
*** TURN *** [2s 2d 8d] 8 of clubs
*** RIVER *** [2s 2d 8d 8c] Jack of hearts
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wickedcid: shows [As Qs] (two pair, Eights and Deuces)
PeteRePeter: shows [Ah Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
PeteRePeter collected 31065 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 31065 | Rake 0
Board [2s 2d 8d 8c Jh]
Seat 1: ENPLAYER99 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: wickedcid (big blind) showed [As Qs] and lost with two pair, Eights and Deuces
Seat 3: PeteRePeter showed [Ah Jd] and won (31065) with two pair, Jacks and Eights
Seat 4: grucas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: lukasema2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: cardraiser72 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ipeksevil (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Home Game Hand #91162929448: {The Rigged Place} Tournament #647605459, $0.10+$0.01 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (500/1000) - 2012/12/22 19:08:14 AT [2012/12/22 18:08:14 ET]
Table '647605459 5' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ENPLAYER99 (19832 in chips)
Seat 2: wickedcid (20701 in chips)
Seat 3: PeteRePeter (70524 in chips)
Seat 4: grucas (66911 in chips)
Seat 8: ipeksevil (12353 in chips)
ENPLAYER99: posts the ante 125
wickedcid: posts the ante 125
PeteRePeter: posts the ante 125
grucas: posts the ante 125
ipeksevil: posts the ante 125
wickedcid: posts small blind 500
PeteRePeter: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wickedcid [5s As]
grucas: folds
ipeksevil: folds
ENPLAYER99: folds
wickedcid: raises 19576 to 20576 and is all-in
PeteRePeter: calls 19576
*** FLOP *** [Ad 6s 2s]
*** TURN *** [Ad 6s 2s] Jack of clubs
*** RIVER *** [Ad 6s 2s Jc] 3 of clubs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wickedcid: shows [5s As] (a pair of Aces)
PeteRePeter: shows [3d 3s] (three of a kind, Threes)
PeteRePeter collected 41777 from pot
ENPLAYER99 said, "lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 41777 | Rake 0
Board [Ad 6s 2s Jc 3c]
Seat 1: ENPLAYER99 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: wickedcid (small blind) showed [5s As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: PeteRePeter (big blind) showed [3d 3s] and won (41777) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 4: grucas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ipeksevil folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Ace of spades Queen of spades vs Ace of hearts Jack of diamonds % on turn for AJ to win was 6.82%
Ace of spades 5 of spades vs 3 of diamonds 3 of spades % on turn for 33 to win was 4.55%
% for both occasions to happen was .31031%
Not worst that has happened to me but just an example of happens to me at pokerstars! Sad

Edited by Jack_Daniels (Saturday, December 22, 2012 @ 23:57 GMT)


     
  22-Dec-12, 23:43   #2
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teddybears73 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 59 (M)
Posts: 3170
aye,that's the magic river on stars for you.all you can do is keep going and try again.
unlucky Jack.don't give up. Thumbs Up

     
  22-Dec-12, 23:58   #3
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Jack_Daniels 

Joined: Aug '12
Location: Canada
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 94
I give up on jokerstars lol the question is will i redeposit once i get to high stakes level? lol also check out the %s i edited at the bottom of thread post.

     
  23-Dec-12, 00:05   #4
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xdomagojx 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Croatia
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 399
You played very bad 2nd hand.

     
  23-Dec-12, 00:11   #5
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Jack_Daniels 

Joined: Aug '12
Location: Canada
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 94
pushed blinds on small blind, nothing wrong with the play, hes the one who made the wrong play, oh well its the only site im not successful on

     
  23-Dec-12, 00:41   #6
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 3361
No worse there then anywhere else as far as I'm concerned when it comes to the donks always hitting on the river. It happens at Carbon all the time and I can't believe the hands that some of these jokers even play with. I guess I'm just not stupid enough to play that way to reap the benefits that they seem to always get.
Just got donked and needed a thread to comment on! Thanks!

     
  23-Dec-12, 01:45   #7
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Jack_Daniels 

Joined: Aug '12
Location: Canada
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 94
lol, well indeed i agree its not only on this site, pokerstars is by far the best site out of them all but i find while im playing on pokerstars its worse than any other site. One poker site is not more rigged than another one but it sure looks like sites vary for different people

     
  23-Dec-12, 02:04   #8
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
Posted by Jack_Daniels:

Ace of spades Queen of spades vs Ace of hearts Jack of diamonds % on turn for AJ to win was 6.82%
Ace of spades 5 of spades vs 3 of diamonds 3 of spades % on turn for 33 to win was 4.55%
% for both occasions to happen was .31031%


This is basically manipulating statistics to suit your agenda. You need to take the statistics from when the chips went IN not from the point where you had the highest chance of winning.. Since both hands were allin preflop, consider the second hand for example - you were more likely to LOSE than WIN yet you paint it out like you were a massive favorite.

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Posted by Jack_Daniels:
the question is will i redeposit once i get to high stakes level?


I really really really wouldn't worry about that.

     
  23-Dec-12, 03:36   #9
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ayaraled 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 544
that was worse at the river....i think it happens in many sites.....in ongame it happens all the time too.the lucky river story is everywhere.....but hey you can still win most of this situations because your ahead until the river comes..... Smile

     
  23-Dec-12, 03:44   #10
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 1372
Posted by ayaraled:
that was worse at the river....i think it happens in many sites.....in ongame it happens all the time too.the lucky river story is everywhere.....but hey you can still win most of this situations because your ahead until the river comes..... Smile


Yep and it happens live too.

I've said it before, "if you can't handle getting sucked out on the river then play a game that doesn't have community cards."

     
  23-Dec-12, 05:04   #11
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
I think all river cards are "lucky" from time to time on all poker platforms especially if you play tons of hands!

One more thing: "cardraiser72" from the first hand is a member here on the forums?

     
  23-Dec-12, 05:11   #12
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zeroster 

Joined: May '11
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Posted by Macubaas:

One more thing: "cardraiser72" from the first hand is a member here on the forums?


They all are it's from the BRM Christmas Home Game. I'm grucas in seat 4.

     
  23-Dec-12, 08:59   #13
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retribution 

Joined: Mar '11
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by Jack_Daniels:

Ace of spades Queen of spades vs Ace of hearts Jack of diamonds % on turn for AJ to win was 6.82%
Ace of spades 5 of spades vs 3 of diamonds 3 of spades % on turn for 33 to win was 4.55%
% for both occasions to happen was .31031%


This is basically manipulating statistics to suit your agenda. You need to take the statistics from when the chips went IN not from the point where you had the highest chance of winning.. Since both hands were allin preflop, consider the second hand for example - you were more likely to LOSE than WIN yet you paint it out like you were a massive favorite.

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Posted by Jack_Daniels:
the question is will i redeposit once i get to high stakes level?


I really really really wouldn't worry about that.


Best ...reply...ever!!! Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

All honesty though, hand 1 is pretty standard. Villains raise basically committed him given pot size, so it's a snap call. You just got unlucky, but yes you WERE a favorite to win when chips got in.

Second hand I GUESS is kind of standard, although 20BB is kind of deep to be shoving, even BvB, especially with a weak ace. You're gunna be dominated by pretty much anything he calls with, and you don't really get much for the times he just folds to make it worth the risk. Or maybe it's just in me talking.

Still, I don't think either hand was terribly played, just terribly standard. I think villains call with 33 in hand 2 is just retarded, but you see it all the time.

     
  23-Dec-12, 09:13   #14
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 6228
Ok, first hand was unlucky. He had only three real outs and some strange boards to beat you, but the second hand was just a flip. The chips went in preflop, and if he hits his set with the flop, the turn or the river does not mind here.

     
  23-Dec-12, 10:14   #15
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uhhcallmi 

Joined: Mar '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 587
reffering to second hand :


i'd rather make a steal on small blind vs BB with : let's say 10-J ofsuit then with A-low kicker

so up to A-4/A-5 i will fold ,,,if opponent has also an ace and you make a steal attempt ,most of the times you will lose ..and any aggression will get you into huge desicion problems...

bye bye tournament, bye bye chips.

HU is a total diff story ..i might play those A-low kickers more..


     
  23-Dec-12, 10:42   #16
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
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Posted by retribution:

Still, I don't think either hand was terribly played, just terribly standard. I think villains call with 33 in hand 2 is just retarded, but you see it all the time.


Yeah that was a truly awful call. Tilts me so hard when fish call allins with small pocket pairs.

     
  23-Dec-12, 13:40   #17
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Jack_Daniels 

Joined: Aug '12
Location: Canada
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 94
I did manipulate the statistics lol trust me im used to losing on those hands but im just showing the statistics going into the river because its mostly the river that gets me and not on the flop. But just playing tourneys i built my bankroll on PS from $.21 to $30.93 so lets see what i can do now lol.
(I just wanted to show river statistics, just feels a bit odd to me it always happens on the river, im always on edge on pokerstars even for one outers, like when you see people at the wsop main event all in and at risk lol theyre not satisfied usually until the river

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Posted by uhhcallmi:
reffering to second hand :


i'd rather make a steal on small blind vs BB with : let's say 10-J ofsuit then with A-low kicker

so up to A-4/A-5 i will fold ,,,if opponent has also an ace and you make a steal attempt ,most of the times you will lose ..and any aggression will get you into huge desicion problems...

bye bye tournament, bye bye chips.

HU is a total diff story ..i might play those A-low kickers more..


Agreed cardraiser! almost a flip if its j10 versus a8. I dont care about losing a flip or 3-1 but im just saying how its always that nasty river. Woohooo not bad flop... blank turn... AND THE RIVER!!! awww... lol Riverstars

Edited by Jack_Daniels (Sunday, December 23, 2012 @ 13:44 GMT)


     
  23-Dec-12, 13:45   #18
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xdomagojx 

Joined: Sep '10
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Posted by Jack_Daniels:
pushed blinds on small blind, nothing wrong with the play, hes the one who made the wrong play, oh well its the only site im not successful on


Look how much was in pot. And you were weak. You played bad he played worse and got lucky.
Push on turn if he calls a raise not on flop.

     
  23-Dec-12, 16:16   #19
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justblazed1 

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y did'nt u bet on ace on the flop a value bet Smile

     
  23-Dec-12, 20:39   #20
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retribution 

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Posted by xdomagojx:
Posted by Jack_Daniels:
pushed blinds on small blind, nothing wrong with the play, hes the one who made the wrong play, oh well its the only site im not successful on


Look how much was in pot. And you were weak. You played bad he played worse and got lucky.
Push on turn if he calls a raise not on flop.


What hands are you even looking at? Both hands chips went in pre, don't know how there can be any more action after that. Also, his shove with AQs against an EP raise with those stack sizes/pot size is pretty damn standard, especially considering you can clearly see in the chat that the raiser was super agro. I'd fist-pump shove that any day all day.

Posted by Jess:
Yeah that was a truly awful call. Tilts me so hard when fish call allins with small pocket pairs.
Yup, me too. And the stupid thing is, they'll call even 22. Like, call me a nit, but I'd NEVER call a shove with 22, you're literally dominated by almost anything in the shovers range, even if they are almost shoving ATC. Still, fish are gunna be fish and they do get lucky. Just sucks getting picked off by morons calling with s**t like that left and right.




     
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