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Can you in the middle of a hand that you are in say a hand that you have as long as it´s a lie? Soo you are allowed to tell others which hand you have as long as it´s a lie? waiting for a quick reply with friends. TY
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Posted by initiator: Can you in the middle of a hand that you are in say a hand that you have as long as it's a lie? Soo you are allowed to tell others which hand you have as long as it's a lie? waiting for a quick reply with friends. TY
NO when you are involved in a hand telling what cards you do or do not have is considered to be cheating in a live venue. it effects the play of other players in the hand who migt not think you are bluffing which may make them fold and then when they see you lied about it at a showdown perhaps they could file a protest about your table talk and have you banned from the casino. I have seen this happen. I have even seen fist fights break out over this type of BS.
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Definately NOT. As Ronin says this is cheating whether you have the cards or not. If I have someone at my table I report them to the site. Even if two players are speaking their own language, I mean I don't know what they are saying, unless its French or English?????
Anyway if someone does what you said take their Username and report them.
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No you cant say what hand you have (even if you are not telling truth). Its good because, its dirty and you could see a reaction of opponent. But you can say what do you think your opponent have.
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In normal play this does violate rules and is considered cheating as everyone has stated, but I have witnessed some of this, but only a comment, not on-going throughout the game.
I actually did this with one player when the other (7) on a (9) man table were sitting out. This was during a freeroll and we were sharing the blinds. I guess it is wrong, but we were not colluding against another player and were the only (2) players in action at the time we did this.
I guess it is still wrong, but no harm was done to anyone!
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Posted by Weenie: But you can say what do you think your opponent have.
It is generally best to avoid doing this as well - as most sites have a rule regarding saying anything can can manipulate the hand (the way others play it). If you're heads up (involved in the hand) it's probably OK to say what you think they have. But never say what you think someone has if you're NOT involved in the hand and also never say it if there's other people involved in your hand.
FWIW: At the lower stakes, most people don't really care that much, at higher stakes if you start breaking table-chat rules, you will find it getting escalated to the poker site admin pretty quickly.
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Posted by pokershark74:
IMO if someone straight up asks you you can say what ever the hell you want
Pretty yes, but like jessthehuman said, most of the poker sites have rules about it. Maybe not directly, but I think that the staff may ban someone for this.
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Good day everyone Its illegitimate to reveal or tell anyone about what you are holding !!! it applies to both live play and even online .... it could result in very serious conflicts like make you move out of the csino ot get banned online and other people may complain or even loose talk etc ... eventually you will be kicked out of the place ... and will be noted for further entries , they may even ban you permanently !!!
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You can write a lie in the chat, but who cares? It´s the same like a bluff, the other players can believe it or not. But in a live game it is of course not allowed, when other players are involved in a hand.
I also think it's not good if one reveals his cards although other play yet! It just destroyed the game. Allowed to play in live not reveal his cards even if it be only a bluff.
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In my op+inion is a really bad ethiquete when somebody have this kind of talks! But i dont say i never did that, of course we all had this kind of coments in a poker table! I my case i did it several times when i was really upset with bad beats! In my opinion opinion id rather to see a guy insulting me that a gui with this kind of talk! Its very tilty this kind of situations!
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i was watching poker on TV a while back (i think it was the EPT) and a guy was in a hand with one more person and he asked the floor manager if he could say what he had to the other player. the manager replied that he can say whatever he wants aslong as its not the truth
Also, i was watching another program and it went to a section where poker pro's explain a memorable hand. Daniel Negreanu went through a hand where he bluffed another guy. he had some random crap and the other guy had KK. the guy bet the flop Daniel called and on the turn Daniel said "i think you have kings" then shoved. the guy folded. Yes! it was a bluff.
so i think that talking about hands (what you have or your opponents have) is OK. after all poker is all about telling a story and deceiving your opponents. hope you won your game good luck all
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G'day Fellow Mobster
I was just on another site and this same thread was on the other site too. It was started buy a different poster of course. The point i am making is that one of the replies was really interesting to me. It talked about an incident which supposedly happened in the old Las Vegas casino the Stardust.
The story goes that after a game in which this fellow kept telling people he had such and such a hand, he was told to shut the hell up when a certain player was in the hand, or he was going find a hole in the desert if he made it that far. Well the guy kept on mouthing about his cards, and an hour later as soon as he walked out of the Stardust with a big wade of cash in his pocket, he was shot dead through the back of the head, on a crowded street an nobody saw nothing.
I just thought it was a GREAT story. I am trying to research it online now to see if it was true or not. Regardless i think its a GREAT old story.
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Better avoid telling what hands you have no matter what you hold. Especially when the hand is still in play, and someone says the cards that folded, thats really annoying
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G'day Mober
I must agree with you about that being an annoying thing. I have been in games where people went on tilt because one person kept saying they had some hand or another. I always love the guy who say that he folded the winner after each hand. The same guy always seems to lose when he stays in though. gotta shake you head some times.
