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was the play i made the correct one?
 

  26-Jan-13, 22:38   #1
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stephensange 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Ireland
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 43
I can't believe the hand i just won never happened to me before also i am new to poker and have played a few tournaments almost all of them have been freerolls could i have played this hand better preflop any ideas?

Seat 1: miha crista (4580 in chips)
Seat 2: POKER_ADC (10325 in chips)
Seat 3: AAberration (8518 in chips)
Seat 4: SNERBY (13517 in chips)
Seat 5: raf2426 (10492 in chips)
Seat 6: bundoranstev (1433 in chips)
Seat 7: 888kosty888 (3710 in chips)
Seat 8: 7chiter (6525 in chips)
Seat 9: sertum205 (7717 in chips)
raf2426: posts small blind 100
bundoranstev: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bundoranstev [As Ac]
888kosty888: calls 200
7chiter: calls 200
sertum205 said, "DD"
sertum205: calls 200
miha crista: folds
POKER_ADC: calls 200
AAberration: folds
SNERBY: calls 200
raf2426: calls 100
bundoranstev: raises 600 to 800
888kosty888: folds
7chiter: calls 600
sertum205: folds
POKER_ADC: calls 600
SNERBY: folds
raf2426: folds
*** FLOP *** [Js Ah Jd]
bundoranstev: checks
7chiter: checks
POKER_ADC: checks
*** TURN *** [Js Ah Jd] Ace of diamonds
bundoranstev: checks
7chiter: checks
POKER_ADC: bets 1000
bundoranstev: calls 633 and is all-in
7chiter: calls 1000
*** RIVER *** [Js Ah Jd Ad] Queen of spades
7chiter: checks
POKER_ADC: bets 1400
7chiter: folds
Uncalled bet (1400) returned to POKER_ADC
*** SHOW DOWN ***
POKER_ADC: shows [3d Qd] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
POKER_ADC collected 734 from side pot
bundoranstev: shows [As Ac] (four of a kind, Aces)
bundoranstev collected 5099 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5833 Main pot 5099. Side pot 734. | Rake 0
Board [Js Ah Jd Ad Qs]
Seat 1: miha crista folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: POKER_ADC showed [3d Qd] and won (734) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 3: AAberration folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SNERBY (button) folded before Flop
Seat 5: raf2426 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: bundoranstev (big blind) showed [As Ac] and won (5099) with four of a kind, Aces
Seat 7: 888kosty888 folded before Flop
Seat 8: 7chiter folded on the River
Seat 9: sertum205 folded before Flop

if anyone knows wether i could of got better value from this hand?

     
  26-Jan-13, 23:14   #2
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nipitiri3 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Estonia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 614
heh how else u could of played that u only had 1500 chips in real cash touney i wud showed there but in play chips one can get more creative lol Dollar Dollar

     
  26-Jan-13, 23:23   #3
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stephensange 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Ireland
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 43
sorry i forgot to say it was a bankrollmob tournament!

     
  26-Jan-13, 23:26   #4
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nipitiri3 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Estonia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 614
aa ok .. i had there 60k stack today i got second pair with turn pot was like 15k opponent pushed all in raised 50k i called and he rivered triple lol only 200 players were left Thumbs Up classic bad beat but yeah if it was BRM freeroll i would prolly played same as u did to milk some cows and not showe preflop or simply call either

     
  26-Jan-13, 23:33   #5
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stephensange 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Ireland
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 43
i hate when something happens like that.... i do see a lot of people going all in with 7 6 offsuit even sometimes 2 3 offsuit and filling str8s you just don't know what cards to go in with!

     
  26-Jan-13, 23:51   #6
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nipitiri3 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Estonia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 614
heh that was nothing ive had worse twice got kicked out at 10th place with pocket pairs both times

once vs 86s second time A+ rag its BRM freeroll thats the way it goes there no need to get pissed

so far i made 10 times to final table there i think maybe 9

     
  27-Jan-13, 00:54   #7
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 3361
Well, once you have all you can by being allin, unless you would have made smaller bets preflop which I don't know how there was really no gaining any more then what you did other then keeping more players in by small bets.

I think it worked out about as well as one could expect or even want. There's so many times it's hard to keep someone in until the end as 7chiter did.

Very nice hand though!

     
  27-Jan-13, 07:28   #8
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comisaru 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Romania
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 48
I hate pocket aces Aww crap!

     
  27-Jan-13, 07:56   #9
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Zen1004 
Joined: Apr '12
Location: Korea, Republic of
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 244
NH! Enjoy the win and try to remember it when your Aces get cracked by rags. Becaouse someday they will be.

     
  27-Jan-13, 08:57   #10
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 6233
Shove preflop. That raise would have been good with only one other player in the pot, but with all the limpers it would have bben better to shove here. To easy to get outdrawn with a bunch opponents in the hand. And we can't fold here anymore.

     
  27-Jan-13, 10:35   #11
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thefly131 
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Belgium
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 1343
Posted by shokaku:
Shove preflop. That raise would have been good with only one other player in the pot, but with all the limpers it would have bben better to shove here. To easy to get outdrawn with a bunch opponents in the hand. And we can't fold here anymore.



Well I have to agree with shokaku here.... you had to shove allin

reasons :
you had less than 1500 chips wit a BB of 200 --> less than 7.5 BB

before your raise ,there were many callers involved in the pot (6 players -->7 with you included) with a pot of 1400 chips and you have 1244 left --> than you try to reduce the number of players in the pot and go allin.

Now you raise up to 800 (more than 50% of your stack) and are committed to go all the way (you have to call an allin of your opponents postflop as you have only 633 chips left)
So easier here is the allin preflop (there will be players calling as theres already 1400 chips in the pot, and you are shortstack)
with pocket AA,KK or QQ you wanne play versus 1 opponent to have the best chances

Most of the times you ll not hit quads with pocket aces.

     
  27-Jan-13, 14:06   #12
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Peremoha 

Joined: Jan '13
Location: Ukraine
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 115
Posted by comisaru:
I hate pocket aces Aww crap!


I love them
Smile

In that situation all in at preflop is the best decision
Cool
But you got really great amount of chips by playing slow game Big Smile
Good luck on tables!

     
  27-Jan-13, 16:56   #13
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stephensange 
Joined: Dec '11
Location: Ireland
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 43
thank you all for the feedback it is interesting to get other peoples taughts i have never finished on the final table in bankrollmob.....i would love to hear of peoples taughts on getting there also....

     
  13-Mar-13, 07:08   #14
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uhhcallmi 

Joined: Mar '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 587
not to offend you ,but you should have lost that hand...then you would find out yourself how you should have played it in the most correct way.. and with your stack and in this situation it was of course all-inn instead of raise to 800chips

the fact that you flopped a fullhouse Aces over Jacks....was just pure luck...after the flop you did not realy need another Ace...unless someone had J-J-J-J or improved to that hand,, but that was a very small chance...

extualy about the same odds that you would hit your quads.. around 2%


     
  13-Mar-13, 13:14   #15
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ayaraled 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Philippines
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 544
nice hand there.....very lucky to hit quads.....as many hands that you played aces will be just a regular hand and you will start to hate aces because you will win small pot and lose big once....

     
  13-Mar-13, 14:05   #16
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RoninHarper 

Joined: Nov '12
Location: Canada
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 4440
G'day mate

Well quad Aces is always a really sweet hand and if you was playing in a freeroll then I say you played it just fine. You got paid off for your Aces very well and that in itself is always great. I can not tell you how many times I have have pocket Aces and got nothing but the blinds with them.
You should be happy you did so well with them.

be cool and best of luck

Ronin

     
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