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  4-Feb-13, 18:32   #1
EPT Live FULL of Cheaters 0 
demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5682
So I click on the player list in todays EPT Live freeroll,.....I knew what I'd find....

The list of nearly 30,000 entrants is SO INFESTED with cheaters it's sickening...

I would estimate about 3,000 or MORE Cheaters in THAT tourney alone... Go look for yourself...

These cheaters are JUST like a bad Cockroach infestation,.... You turn on the light and there are millions of them,..... You STOMP them all to death,...then before you know it,...even MORE are back...

Way too many to list,...and I don't care either,...no leaderboard to worry about there,..... but just out of interest,...here's a sample:

EPTLIVE:
boleto10 Argentina
boleto2
boleto3
boleto4
boleto5
boleto7
boleto8
boleto9

Oh....maybe I'm mistaken.....it's 8 different people, at 8 different computers, in 8 different towns...with 8 different ISPs......

.....ya right...

PokerStars is SO INFESTED with these Cockroaches, that somebody needs to SPRAY the place with something... lol...

Just about ALL the freeroll games are infested... BankrollMob, EPT Live,....Hubble....etc...

Edited by demodawggy (Monday, February 04, 2013 @ 18:39 GMT)


     
  4-Feb-13, 18:47   #2
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Jibberish 

Joined: May '11
Location: Canada
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 979
Solution: Stop playing freerolls Smile

     
  4-Feb-13, 18:58   #3
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5682
I do well playing freerolls,...no need to stop...

just saying....

Email to PokerStars:

I just looked in the player list in the EPT Live freeroll today. I knew what I'd find...

The list is just FULL of Cheaters....

EPT Live full of cheaters,....Hubbles full of cheaters....BankrollMob full of cheaters,......many many other tourneys full of cheaters...

Your website is SO full of cheaters it's sickening,... and the bad thing about it,...is there is NOTHING you can do, or want to do to prevent it...

You can't even tell me that there are no cheaters in your REAL money games....

How many cheaters are sitting in big money tourneys with multiple accounts?.... You have NO idea do you?

How many tables have 2 or more seats at them where it's the same guy playing both? You have no idea and cannot tell me...

I've SEEN it for myself,....1 table, 9 players,...2 of the seats the same guy with 2 very slightly different usernames...

I would estimate out of the 30,000 entrants into your EPT Live tourney, that at LEAST 3,000 are cheaters...

You guys have a SERIOUS problem here...

Here's just 1 little example... I looked through the list and found 1000s of them:


EPTLIVE 1:15pm Eastern Feb 4th/2013:

boleto10 Argentina

boleto2

boleto3

boleto4

boleto5

boleto7

boleto8

boleto9

     
  4-Feb-13, 19:17   #4
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Mysik86 

Joined: Nov '11
Location: Poland
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 773
You made good move - but like you said - it's like battle with cockroaches... You kill 500 and next time, you'll see 1000... I know - this is very serious plague - but (like I said on other topic), it needs too much work from PokerStars.

BTW, I will wish you good luck with your actions - maybe PS should hire you as Anti-Cheat Specialist Blink

     
  5-Feb-13, 01:37   #5
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KowKain 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Slovenia
Age: 26 (M)
Posts: 109
So then you get one of these maggots to play live and wonder why you see so many donkish moves in live series events.

Disgusting....

     
  5-Feb-13, 02:02   #6
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takingdrugs 

Joined: Nov '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 744
Posted by Jibberish:
Solution: Stop playing freerolls Smile


beat me too it Big Smile

     
  5-Feb-13, 09:21   #7
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AlexSimion 
Joined: Mar '12
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 640
Can u tell us if u get any feedback from pokerstars about your vendeta Big Smile ? Don't get me wrong , I appreciate your effort, and I agree with you , but I just think it's something like a pigeon trying to kill a lion. (This s**t only happens in horror movies )

     
  5-Feb-13, 15:39   #8
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5682
Hey Alex!...

They actually do remove duplicates. Sometimes i see results right away......sometimes not. I've seen about 300 or more removed, but sometimes duplicates persist.

Everytime I send in a list, which is after EVERY game throughout the day for a total of 14 emails per day, they send back replies which consist of a standard form letter response:

Hello Andy,

Thank you for your concern.

PokerStars' policy on players with duplicate accounts is very
straightforward. Players are permitted one account only at
PokerStars. We believe that players who access more than one
account compromise the integrity of our games.

Please rest assured that we will examine these accounts and take
proper action according to our Terms of Service, available for
review at the following link.

There was one guy I was having trouble getting removed for some reason,...this guy:

EXSTREM1 Russia 16th .16c
EXSTREM112
EXSTREM113
EXSTREM115
EXSTREM116

I reported him one day, and he remained playing tourney after tourney, day after day....

I kept reporting him EVERY tourney he was in.

After about 3 reports I get a reply from Micheal G at pokerstars verifications saying no need to keep reporting this guy,...all accounts have been reviewed, and appropriate action has been taken.....

After getting THAT reply, EXSTREM continued to appear,...and for days and days,...so I then knew this Micheal G guy was full of $h!t...

I replied to PS very sarcastically, and continued to report EXSTREM for days. Finally I no longer saw EXSTREM appearing in BRM tourneys. That all took place about a week and a half ago.

I hadn't seem EXSTREM appear in BRM tourneys for about 3 or 4 days and realized that PS had FINALLY removed him....AFTER they had told me he had been removed previously...

....THEN.....a few more days went by, and I entered another tourney,....a Hubble or something...don't remember.....and to my complete SURPRISE appearing in THAT tourney.....guess who.... My Old Buddy:

EXSTREM1 Russia
EXSTREM112
EXSTREM113
EXSTREM115
EXSTREM116

Seem PS blocked him from the BRM tourneys,...but DID NOT shut him down, close ALL of his duplicates,...and throw him off PS for CHEATING....

I just COULDN'T believe it..... PS allowed him to stay, and CONTINUE to cheat other players....


PokerStars is SO FULL OF $h!t it ain't funny....

     
  6-Feb-13, 11:37   #9
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4764
PS and the other poker sites that want to be respected by their users need to find a way to avoid these situations. I even believe they are different persons, but they sure must be all combined to play the game in order to favour themselves, like collusion. If they have different emails, using different computers and different addresses on the accounts, it is difficult for PS to try to do something. But it’s got to be possible!

     
  6-Feb-13, 13:44   #10
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Zen1004 
Joined: Apr '12
Location: Korea, Republic of
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 244
Posted by Fakiry:
PS and the other poker sites that want to be respected by their users need to find a way to avoid these situations. I even believe they are different persons, but they sure must be all combined to play the game in order to favour themselves, like collusion. If they have different emails, using different computers and different addresses on the accounts, it is difficult for PS to try to do something. But it�s got to be possible!


Sad to say this sort of thing is entirely too common. Regular cash games and tournaments are too risky for these scammers so they lurk out on the freerolls. The saddest part is that if they put half the effort into becoming better players as they do into their scams they would most likely be winning players.

     
  6-Feb-13, 15:59   #11
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demodawggy 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: Canada
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 5682
Posted by Fakiry:
PS and the other poker sites that want to be respected by their users need to find a way to avoid these situations. I even believe they are different persons, but they sure must be all combined to play the game in order to favour themselves, like collusion. If they have different emails, using different computers and different addresses on the accounts, it is difficult for PS to try to do something. But it�s got to be possible!




MOST of the time,....only one of the duplicates is active while the rest sit out.....as soon as the one playing loses and goes out,...one of the other duplicates starts to play until HE loses,....then another one of them starts to play until HE loses......THAT tells me it's only ONE guy playing successively each duplicate until they either win big or lose....

In many many cases,...the avatar pic is the same for all the duplicates....or same person but different pic...

     
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