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  6-Feb-13, 12:31   #1
What Did I Do Wrong? - 4 0 
erru9107 
Joined: Oct '11
Location: Sweden
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 910
So, did I do anything wrong in these last few hands? What could I have done different?



***** Hand History For Game 12629958027 *****
400/800 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (STT Tournament #78693172) - Mon Feb 4 14:43:18 EST 2013
Table Table Double or Nothing Turbo 4211600 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6/10
Seat 1: italiano.ru (2740)
Seat 3: Peps0095 (5110)
Seat 4: AleksUp (2200)
Seat 5: raqwel (6570)
Seat 8: erru9107 (2440)
Seat 10: TomGurski (940)
italiano.ru posts ante (25)
Peps0095 posts ante (25)
AleksUp posts ante (25)
raqwel posts ante (25)
erru9107 posts ante (25)
TomGurski posts ante (25)
raqwel posts small blind (400)
erru9107 posts big blind (800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to erru9107 [ Tc, Kd ]
TomGurski folds
italiano.ru folds
Peps0095 folds
AleksUp folds
raqwel raises 4400 to 4800
erru9107 folds
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1750
italiano.ru balance 2715, lost 25 (folded)
Peps0095 balance 5085, lost 25 (folded)
AleksUp balance 2175, lost 25 (folded)
raqwel balance 7495, bet 4825, collected 5750, net +925
erru9107 balance 1615, lost 825 (folded)
TomGurski balance 915, lost 25 (folded)

***** Hand History For Game 12629959800 *****
400/800 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (STT Tournament #78693172) - Mon Feb 4 14:43:38 EST 2013
Table Table Double or Nothing Turbo 4211600 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6/10
Seat 1: italiano.ru (2715)
Seat 3: Peps0095 (5085)
Seat 4: AleksUp (2175)
Seat 5: raqwel (7495)
Seat 8: erru9107 (1615)
Seat 10: TomGurski (915)
italiano.ru posts ante (25)
Peps0095 posts ante (25)
AleksUp posts ante (25)
raqwel posts ante (25)
erru9107 posts ante (25)
TomGurski posts ante (25)
erru9107 posts small blind (400)
TomGurski posts big blind (800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to erru9107 [ 6s, 5c ]
italiano.ru folds
Peps0095 folds
AleksUp folds
raqwel folds
erru9107 folds
** Summary **
Main Pot: 950
italiano.ru balance 2690, lost 25 (folded)
Peps0095 balance 5060, lost 25 (folded)
AleksUp balance 2150, lost 25 (folded)
raqwel balance 7470, lost 25 (folded)
erru9107 balance 1190, lost 425 (folded)
TomGurski balance 1440, bet 825, collected 1350, net +525

***** Hand History For Game 12629960733 *****
400/800 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (STT Tournament #78693172) - Mon Feb 4 14:43:49 EST 2013
Table Table Double or Nothing Turbo 4211600 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6/10
Seat 1: italiano.ru (2690)
Seat 3: Peps0095 (5060)
Seat 4: AleksUp (2150)
Seat 5: raqwel (7470)
Seat 8: erru9107 (1190)
Seat 10: TomGurski (1440)
italiano.ru posts ante (25)
Peps0095 posts ante (25)
AleksUp posts ante (25)
raqwel posts ante (25)
erru9107 posts ante (25)
TomGurski posts ante (25)
TomGurski posts small blind (400)
italiano.ru posts big blind (800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to erru9107 [ 4c, 5d ]
Peps0095 folds
AleksUp raises 2125 to 2125
AleksUp is all-In.
raqwel folds
erru9107 folds
TomGurski folds
italiano.ru folds
Creating Main Pot with 2150 with AleksUp
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2150
italiano.ru balance 1865, lost 825 (folded)
Peps0095 balance 5035, lost 25 (folded)
AleksUp balance 3475, bet 2150, collected 3475, net +1325
raqwel balance 7445, lost 25 (folded)
erru9107 balance 1165, lost 25 (folded)
TomGurski balance 1015, lost 425 (folded)

***** Hand History For Game 12629962466 *****
400/800 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (STT Tournament #78693172) - Mon Feb 4 14:44:10 EST 2013
Table Table Double or Nothing Turbo 4211600 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 6/10
Seat 1: italiano.ru (1865)
Seat 3: Peps0095 (5035)
Seat 4: AleksUp (3475)
Seat 5: raqwel (7445)
Seat 8: erru9107 (1165)
Seat 10: TomGurski (1015)
italiano.ru posts ante (25)
Peps0095 posts ante (25)
AleksUp posts ante (25)
raqwel posts ante (25)
erru9107 posts ante (25)
TomGurski posts ante (25)
italiano.ru posts small blind (400)
Peps0095 posts big blind (800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to erru9107 [ Jc, 5s ]
AleksUp folds
raqwel folds
erru9107 folds
TomGurski folds
italiano.ru folds
** Summary **
Main Pot: 950
italiano.ru balance 1440, lost 425 (folded)
Peps0095 balance 5560, bet 825, collected 1350, net +525
AleksUp balance 3450, lost 25 (folded)
raqwel balance 7420, lost 25 (folded)
erru9107 balance 1140, lost 25 (folded)
TomGurski balance 990, lost 25 (folded)

***** Hand History For Game 12629964079 *****
400/800 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (STT Tournament #78693172) - Mon Feb 4 14:44:29 EST 2013
Table Table Double or Nothing Turbo 4211600 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6/10
Seat 1: italiano.ru (1440)
Seat 3: Peps0095 (5560)
Seat 4: AleksUp (3450)
Seat 5: raqwel (7420)
Seat 8: erru9107 (1140)
Seat 10: TomGurski (990)
italiano.ru posts ante (25)
Peps0095 posts ante (25)
AleksUp posts ante (25)
raqwel posts ante (25)
erru9107 posts ante (25)
TomGurski posts ante (25)
Peps0095 posts small blind (400)
AleksUp posts big blind (800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to erru9107 [ 7d, 6c ]
raqwel raises 7395 to 7395
raqwel is all-In.
erru9107 folds
TomGurski folds
italiano.ru folds
Peps0095 folds
AleksUp folds
Creating Main Pot with 2150 with raqwel
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2150
italiano.ru balance 1415, lost 25 (folded)
Peps0095 balance 5135, lost 425 (folded)
AleksUp balance 2625, lost 825 (folded)
raqwel balance 8745, bet 7420, collected 8745, net +1325
erru9107 balance 1115, lost 25 (folded)
TomGurski balance 965, lost 25 (folded)

***** Hand History For Game 12629965497 *****
400/800 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (STT Tournament #78693172) - Mon Feb 4 14:44:45 EST 2013
Table Table Double or Nothing Turbo 4211600 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6/10
Seat 1: italiano.ru (1415)
Seat 3: Peps0095 (5135)
Seat 4: AleksUp (2625)
Seat 5: raqwel (8745)
Seat 8: erru9107 (1115)
Seat 10: TomGurski (965)
italiano.ru posts ante (25)
Peps0095 posts ante (25)
AleksUp posts ante (25)
raqwel posts ante (25)
erru9107 posts ante (25)
TomGurski posts ante (25)
AleksUp posts small blind (400)
raqwel posts big blind (800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to erru9107 [ 6h, 8h ]
erru9107 folds
TomGurski folds
italiano.ru folds
Peps0095 folds
AleksUp folds
** Summary **
Main Pot: 950
italiano.ru balance 1390, lost 25 (folded)
Peps0095 balance 5110, lost 25 (folded)
AleksUp balance 2200, lost 425 (folded)
raqwel balance 9270, bet 825, collected 1350, net +525
erru9107 balance 1090, lost 25 (folded)
TomGurski balance 940, lost 25 (folded)

***** Hand History For Game 12629966413 *****
400/800 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (STT Tournament #78693172) - Mon Feb 4 14:44:56 EST 2013
Table Table Double or Nothing Turbo 4211600 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6/10
Seat 1: italiano.ru (1390)
Seat 3: Peps0095 (5110)
Seat 4: AleksUp (2200)
Seat 5: raqwel (9270)
Seat 8: erru9107 (1090)
Seat 10: TomGurski (940)
italiano.ru posts ante (25)
Peps0095 posts ante (25)
AleksUp posts ante (25)
raqwel posts ante (25)
erru9107 posts ante (25)
TomGurski posts ante (25)
raqwel posts small blind (400)
erru9107 posts big blind (800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to erru9107 [ 2d, Td ]
TomGurski folds
italiano.ru folds
Peps0095 folds
AleksUp folds
raqwel raises 1200 to 1600
erru9107 calls (265)
erru9107 is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5s, 3s, Ad ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 3d ]
Creating Main Pot with 2280 with erru9107
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2280
Board: [ 5s 3s Ad 3c 3d ]
italiano.ru balance 1365, lost 25 (folded)
Peps0095 balance 5085, lost 25 (folded)
AleksUp balance 2175, lost 25 (folded)
raqwel balance 10460, bet 1625, collected 2815, net +1190 [ Kc Qc ] [ three of a kind, threes -- Ad,Kc,3s,3c,3d ]
erru9107 balance 0, lost 1090 [ 2d Td ] [ three of a kind, threes -- Ad,Td,3s,3c,3d ]
TomGurski balance 915, lost 25 (folded)

Edited by erru9107 (Wednesday, February 06, 2013 @ 12:31 GMT)


     
  7-Feb-13, 03:28   #2
  0 
nipitiri3 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Estonia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 614
umm im too lazy to read all that text (kinda boring) Big Smile

     
  7-Feb-13, 09:18   #3
  0 
retribution 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Canada
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 1490
I actually assumed these were all different games, and had a response for each one.

Then I realise they were all the same game.

Honestly, not really much you COULD do. I'm actually quite suprised the big stacks weren't more actively stealing, given how short 2 of the people were.

From your standpoint though, you really didn't have many options, short of shoving when the other shorty was in the BB, but with 65o, and him with half his stack already in PLUS him hitting SB next hand, he's calling pretty damn wide(or at least SHOULD be). Given that, I don't know if I like shoving that spot and being crippled. On the opposite side, if we give him a walk, he has more chips and we're fucked next orbit, so unless the tables full of agro morons, this is the best spot we're going to get.

Making that call when you had most of your stack in was 100% correct, being if you DIDNT call, you're forced all-in the next hand. No way you can fold that spot and you should litterally call any 2 cards because taking a flip is better than blinding out.

That said, I'd say the only thing realistically you could have done different, is shove against the shorty in BB.

The reason I don't like shoving when we're in CO, is because we're facing the possibility of not just 1, but 2 different callers. Any of the other spots you listed, are no brainer folds.

     
  7-Feb-13, 11:46   #4
  0 
TheMachineQC 

Joined: Apr '10
Location: Canada
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 2110
I'm not folding that first K10 even though it's a hand I don't like. You are 3 blinds deep before the hand and you get K10 on the BB, folding is definetly a very passive move IMO... Most likely, if you call you're against a small pair or you have 2 live cards against an ace rag. You could even be ahead of hands like QJs Q10s K9s 910s 10js ect, but of course you could be dominated. At this point, a double up would have been very good for you, gets you up to about 5k chips, almost chip leader. Instead you chose to let the blinds/antes grind you out, and after that hand you were down to a stack that can barely scratch the big stacks...

It's never fun to call off your whole stack pre flop with a weak hand like K10, but sometimes you just can't fold. If you're not dominated, then it's the right call. And even if you are, it's not a bad call. That was basicly a HU pot and K10 is a pretty decent HU hand.

erru9107 balance 1615, lost 825 (folded) = ouch

Edited by TheMachineQC (Thursday, February 07, 2013 @ 11:58 GMT)


     
  7-Feb-13, 16:07   #5
  0 
thefly131 
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Belgium
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 1345
Well sometimes there s nothing you can really do ....

You were aleady shortstacked (5 th position) so as you are aready in the 400/800 blinds you should have noticed whos playing very tight at your table and who is not.

So you had to try to steal the blinds from the tight players earlier..

In a DoN it s just your aim to keep your position (as long as your in the top 5)
So you try to steal blinds from time to time (and as you already played very tight (= only monsters)) your opponents who are playing tight will probably fold if you go allin.

Just watch out for the bigstacks who play aggressive--> only face them with monsters and do not try to steal their blinds.

     
  7-Feb-13, 22:31   #6
  0 
BeMyATMplz 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: Germany
Age: 23 (M)
Posts: 1854
1st hand - good fold,shorty is BB next hand and K10 isnt strong enough to call here given that fact
In any other format this would be a snapcall obv. but in this scenario it's better to wait this one more hand.

2nd hand pretty much whast retribution said,if there is no spewtard at your table then the 65 hand is probably the best spot we can get,we have pretty much no fold equity when anyone else is in BB,and if people have at least some sort of clue no one will go out of line,meaning in the least cases you'll win by just folding.
65 actually doesnt have too bad of equity against his any2 calling range and you'll be forced all in next orbit if nothing happens,so I rather get it in here than having to hope someone busts during the next few hands
I'm not sure if its mathematicly correct to get it in here,my guess is even that it isnt,but I prefer taking such spots over waiting & praying regardless of the format

     
  9-Feb-13, 05:06   #7
  0 
erru9107 
Joined: Oct '11
Location: Sweden
Age: 25 (M)
Posts: 910
Thanks guys! This input will help me analyze this game a little bit better. Maybe I'll find some other holes in my game as well, we'll have to wait and see Tongue

     
  9-Feb-13, 09:08   #8
  0 
shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 6233
I guess i would have shoved with 86s here. A run of quite bad cards, but you had the position and the chipstack to make a move in that hand, before you were forced to play ATC in the big blind.

     
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