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Posted by zeroster:
It's not just rigtards it's all conspiracy theorists that behave this way. Just group them in with chemtrail freaks, niburu idiots and the illuminati clowns. It really doesn't matter how many holes you punch through their arguments they have their conspiracy theory and they're going to continue with it no matter what. Rigtards are just the same.


So true..I was saying recently, I really wish there were more objective conspiracy theorists out there, I bet there is a whole load of really interesting s**t and we don't find out because all the people that pursue it have no understanding of logic and reason.

It's no coincidence either - the reality is this: Calling something bulls**t and making up absurd fantasies about it is really easy and lets you live in some crazy fantasy world, like a spy movie or something. Whereas actual objective investigation is really really really hard and possibly actually dangerous (if you're talking about serious conspiracies), but mostly it's just really hard and it's a lot easier just to make stuff up and base your arguments on concepts that have no evidence.

Same thing with rigtards: It's incredibly easy to call a site rigged and argue on end without providing any evidence. It's incredibly hard to actually bring together sample sizes over 1 million hands and analyse them in various and fair ways to test the integrity of an RNG.

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Thanks for that link!

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Posted by my_bankroll:
Well show me the proof its not rigged ....you made the statement that there's proof its not rigged ....I wanna know where the proof is ?


There will never be proof, only evidence, however - all large statistical analyses so far performed have indicated the RNGs are NOT rigged.

Due to rules on BRM regarding not posting poker relating links, we can't really provide the links, but I promise you actual large-sample statistical analyses of poker hands are only a google search away Blink

Also see:

http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

(Thanks Zeroster)

Edited by jessthehuman (17 February 2013 @ 01:43 GMT)


     
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Posted by jessthehuman:

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Thanks for that link!

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http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

(Thanks Zeroster)


You're welcome. I find that site useful when debating with creationists and other assorted theistically afflicted individuals. An endeavor which is rather similar to debating with rigtards.



     
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..The company who tested the hand analysis on the big sites said they can not confirm nor can they confirm it is rigged .....what they did say of any of the sites wanted to confirm it isnt they could....which asks the question why wouldn't they want to get the tests done that confirms they are legit ......not bothered anyway fkin good luck to them if they are robbing u mugs ....I don't give a rats asss

     
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Posted by my_bankroll:
..The company who tested the hand analysis on the big sites said they can not confirm nor can they confirm it is rigged .....what they did say of any of the sites wanted to confirm it isnt they could....which asks the question why wouldn't they want to get the tests done that confirms they are legit ......not bothered anyway fkin good luck to them if they are robbing u mugs ....I don't give a rats asss


I'm not exactly sure what you were reading, but I am fairly sure you just don't quite understand the scientific method of analyses. They can't "confirm" it isn't rigged by running huge sample sizes as this isn't a guarantee that it's not rigged. But they can say that no anomalies were detected, which is the point. You could in theory prove it was rigged by coming across source code that was evidently designed to bias the RNG - that would prove it was rigged. But you can literally never prove companies aren't rigging their RNG, even if you obtained their source code, since you can't know for sure it's the same build that is running the live games. You can however perform tests and determine whether the outcome is close enough to the expected outcome to say that the evidence suggests it's not rigged. Which is the case so far, with all the large-sample size tests that have been conducted by reputable sources.

This is why you lose. But of course, you don't get it, because you're not very bright and I'm wasting my breath and essentially preaching to the choir because they're the only ones who'll understand what I am saying, a rigtards ability to comprehend rational information is crucially flawed, hence them being a rigtard in the first place. That said - I do still occasionally enjoy putting you morons in your place, even if you are far to stupid to understand how thoroughly you've been whipped.

     
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instead of trying to act like your the brightest fker alive just say it.......it hasn't been proven 100% that its not rigged Aww crap!

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And who exactly are these poker police?

Some guy on yahoo who examined 60k hands?

Please, give me the concrete evidence that there was/is a vast number of people pumping millions of REAL MONEY hands into a their database


Play tens if not hundreds of thousands of real money tournaments and millions of hands.. then get back to me with the results

Edited by my_bankroll (17 February 2013 @ 18:53 GMT)


     
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Why don't you do that?
Hell if you're so sure it's rigged, why do you play anyway? Or is it that youre the pokerslots casino gambler and since you realised that those machines were/are rigged, you came to this forum to enlighten us. Just work on your game...
I've had a hell of a week and cards still don't work as they 'should' but I don't go jerking around acting all paranoid and telling people it's rigged. It's poker.

1326 starting combinations alone...

     
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Posted by my_bankroll:
instead of trying to act like your the brightest fker alive just say it.......it hasn't been proven 100% that its not rigged Aww crap!


I did. Clearly. But I tried to make you understand why that is the only thing that can be said. And how little it actually means. But you failed to understand.

Posted by my_bankroll:

Some guy on yahoo who examined 60k hands?




Try over a million.

Posted by my_bankroll:
Play tens if not hundreds of thousands of real money tournaments and millions of hands.. then get back to me with the results


Once again: Burden of proof. Do it yourself instead of making claims libellous claims.

     
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Nah couldn't give a f**k really .....doesn't brother me if it is or if it isn't Agree

     
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Posted by my_bankroll:
Nah couldn't give a f**k really .....doesn't brother me if it is or if it isn't Agree


So if you can't be bothered investigating something, don't make slanderous posts. Just admit you don't know s**t and can't be bothered learning and STFU.

     
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Posted by zeroster:
There are many ways to try and refute your assertion that it's rigged but experience tells me that I'd be wasting my time. Instead I'll offer a a simple solution. If you really think it's rigged withdraw any money you have on there and don't play again.

Playing on a site that you know is rigged would be stupid wouldn't it?

Haha, I have to say that this was by far the best advice given in this thread! Thumbs Up

     
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when you get a bad beat it's natural to get frustrated especially when it happens two or three times in a row. When that happens step away from the table find a friendly ear to vent or go do something else for a while. When the frustration wears off go give the tables another try.

You can't win at this game if you're letting your ego make the decisions.

     
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