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  20-Feb-13, 21:19   #1
How to improve my game?? 0 
djpremier 
Joined: Dec '10
Location: Finland
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 419
Hi mobsters...

I recently started using pokertracker and I've enjoyed the HUD feature and I believe it has helped me make right decisions in many spots..

I'd however like to improve my game by studying the hand histories too..
The problem is,I'm not really sure how to..
I have found some nice threads on 2p2 and stuff, but I'd also like to hear some tips from you mobsters.

So anyone who's using some kind of tracking software: How do you try to find leaks in your game using the hand histories?
What kind of filters do you use? How do you use the information you find?

(my database is still kinda small, around 30k hands but I think it gives at least some idea about my game)

     
  20-Feb-13, 22:45   #2
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10011
Havent used any such program before, but if there is one that can do what you are asking about history with your played hands, that must be a valuable info towards your future games.

     
  21-Feb-13, 07:36   #3
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djpremier 
Joined: Dec '10
Location: Finland
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 419
Posted by Mober:
Havent used any such program before, but if there is one that can do what you are asking about history with your played hands, that must be a valuable info towards your future games.

Mober you should give Hold'Em Manager 2 or PokerTracker 4 a try .. they both have free trials Smile

     
  21-Feb-13, 08:12   #4
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8623
yeah studying your game & looking for leaks is a good thing...however i think it's only one part of the puzzle- you should consider looking at the best players at the limit you're playing and try to learn from their game too, especially look for situations when those players play in a big tourney & reach final table- this way you can see a replay of that final table with hole cards open for all players...now that's a gold mine if you want to get into the mind of winning players....just my opinion though. gl

     
  21-Feb-13, 09:21   #5
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djpremier 
Joined: Dec '10
Location: Finland
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 419
Thanks for your reply pochui Smile I've been doing that sometimes and I agree it's really helpful ! I made this thread just to see mobsters opinion on using tracking softwares to improve one's game..

     
  21-Feb-13, 14:48   #6
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Samtoace 

Joined: Sep '12
Location: Netherlands
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Posts: 335
How to improve my game??


Pack it up and save your money. Cool

     
  21-Feb-13, 14:49   #7
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SuperpokefA 
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Belgium
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 178
i'm using Holdem manager 2 at the moment and indeed it's a great pokertool.
But beware if you only rely on statistics. you have to see the whole picture and look what's on the table.
For instance : if somebody folds to a continuation bet for 80% but the flop is K Spade Q Spade T Heart there's a greater chance that he will NOT fold his hand on that flop.
If the board is dry K Spade 5 Heart 2 Club you can make a profitable cbet as a bluff.

I advise you to read a lot of articles and review your game.
If you have a lot of hands of a regular player you can also review his hands. So you can try to understand his play

     
  21-Feb-13, 16:24   #8
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hoodi420 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 852
I personally haven't ever used any tracking software aside from looking myself up on sharscope. With that being said its not that I wouldn't use them, but I don't have much of a need right now. Here's another thing, if you ever want to play live there is no software. You have to keep track of players yourself by paying attention to what hands they show down, whether you are in the pot or not. There are so many factors at a poker table to consider, an opponents style,stack size in relationship to the blinds & antes, position, your sdtack size, ect. I just don't think there is a software that is going to take all of those factors into consideration better than the human brain. Just an opinion, hope it helps.

     
  21-Feb-13, 16:27   #9
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djpremier 
Joined: Dec '10
Location: Finland
Age: 24 (M)
Posts: 419
Posted by Samtoace:
Pack it up and save your money. Cool

Wow that helped a lot ...

@SuperpokerfA thanks for your reply..

Any more specific ideas?

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Posted by hoodi420:
I personally haven't ever used any tracking software aside from looking myself up on sharscope. With that being said its not that I wouldn't use them, but I don't have much of a need right now. Here's another thing, if you ever want to play live there is no software. You have to keep track of players yourself by paying attention to what hands they show down, whether you are in the pot or not. There are so many factors at a poker table to consider, an opponents style,stack size in relationship to the blinds & antes, position, your sdtack size, ect. I just don't think there is a software that is going to take all of those factors into consideration better than the human brain. Just an opinion, hope it helps.


Thanks..I agree..The HUD comes especially handy when multitabling.. For example if someone has stats like this: raise first on button 75% , fold to 3bet 80% it's very profitable to resteal from the blinds .. And when you're multitabling it's not always so easy to spot these things about opponents..

And about playing live, I've been playing some home games with friends and a few times some cashgames at a casino so I know the difference Smile

Edited by djpremier (Thursday, February 21, 2013 @ 16:33 GMT)


     
  21-Feb-13, 18:11   #10
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4764
I don’t use any software so I’m not the right one to tell you how to apply the features that you get with that tool pokertracker. However, there’s always a lot of hand discussion around here and, although it may seem useless to comment them after they have been played (now that anyone knows what happened), it was help to understand what kind of strategy can we apply in each case (every hand is a new case, it always depend on the stack, the position, the number of opponents at the tables, the opponent’s stack). One could even think about trying to create a resume of the hands we analyze here. For instance, following the tendency of what most mobsters told about that specific hand, and then creating a new space where that lecture would be available.
Imagine, a resume with things like this:
10 sit, player is the shortest stack, gets AA at the button – should instant all-in;
6 sit, player is mid rank stack, gets A7o at SB, there’s one raise – should fold;
I think it would be great to have something like this, although never forgetting that exceptions make the rules. Admin, want to think about this?

     
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